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culcune 07-28-2019 01:36 AM

Lifan X-Pect 200 video
 
Still just a tease, but one of our members got a Lifan!!!

https://youtu.be/XwYZ8jERo-Y

OneLeggedRider 07-28-2019 07:30 AM

I like the look and colors. And there's the EFI everyone's been wondering about.

culcune 07-28-2019 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by OneLeggedRider (Post 314936)
I like the look and colors. And there's the EFI everyone's been wondering about.

I told Caesar to post his first ride video here since so many of us have been anxiously awaiting this bike. If he doesn't, I will.

kingofqueenz 07-28-2019 12:16 PM

Bike looks sweet..nice colors and finish

Want to see more vids

wedooit 07-28-2019 11:23 PM

Thanks for updating!!!! Wonder if he will ride the b jesus out of it and give us an update???

brianjmt 07-30-2019 02:14 AM

Not bad looking, like the dash. Now ride the hell out of it for a couple days and give us a nice short and to the point review.LOL PLease.

culcune 08-04-2019 04:15 AM

More video: Getting closer to riding!

https://youtu.be/5SaODBMVZYA

landshark 08-05-2019 01:57 PM

Picked mine up last Wed, put about 85 miles on it this weekend. I must say the quality looks better than I expected, went together great, everything was tight, AND it came with a lithium battery. Don at Advance Merchandise Company is great to deal with. The bike rides and feels great, but the EFI is just not quite right. It think it may be the idle is just too low. The bike will cut out at stops and quick throttle blips from idle will stall it. I hope this is an easy fix(anyone's help would be appreciated)!


Yes, this is my first post, so "Hello."


Chris

JerryHawk250 08-05-2019 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by landshark (Post 315518)
Picked mine up last Wed, put about 85 miles on it this weekend. I must say the quality looks better than I expected, went together great, everything was tight, AND it came with a lithium battery. Don at Advance Merchandise Company is great to deal with. The bike rides and feels great, but the EFI is just not quite right. It think it may be the idle is just too low. The bike will cut out at stops and quick throttle blips from idle will stall it. I hope this is an easy fix(anyone's help would be appreciated)!


Yes, this is my first post, so "Hello."


Chris

Welcome aboard! Don is a good guy to deal with. Always willing to help out. Is there an idles speed screw you can adjust?

landshark 08-05-2019 04:10 PM

Thanks Bro! There is one obvious screw on the throttle body that i fiddled with but ended up putting back to factory setting as it did not change anything. Haven't looked any deeper yet. I was giving it a few miles to see what happens, but it is no better at 85 miles.

ss27gogeta 08-05-2019 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by landshark (Post 315529)
Thanks Bro! There is one obvious screw on the throttle body that i fiddled with but ended up putting back to factory setting as it did not change anything. Haven't looked any deeper yet. I was giving it a few miles to see what happens, but it is no better at 85 miles.

Hopefully this can be sorted out . i ordered mine last night so it's going to be a couple weekes before I can fiddle with mine. what dose it idle at. how dose it react when you going down the road and you give it a bunch of throttle quickly. I wonder if lifan will come out with a tuner for these efi models. or some software for a laptop to tune it or someone figures out how to hack the pcm. because if not we are probably stuck with how it came since there will be no way to adjust anything. I'm suspecting what your experiencing has something to do with the tune. and the idle is probably set in the computer untill someone figures out how to hack it we are probly stuck with what we got. Not saying the tune is deffinuntly the cause. but I would suspect that to be the most likely. as even Japanese an European bikes can have simular issues when new. and it usaly the factory tune. if mine acts the same way its probly the tune. iif not it could be something mechanical

culcune 08-05-2019 10:13 PM

Could it be something as simple as choke? Is there a choke with efi?

pete 08-06-2019 05:32 AM

dose it have a dialog setting/display in the panel
where you can make adjustments to the injection settings...

most yamaha's do... but there is no mention of it in the manuals
shop mechanics are ment to be the only ones that know about it
and how to access it...

Yamaha.... with the key off.... hold both buttons down while you turn the
key on... keep holding the buttons down till the dialog screen comes up...

try it.... you never know.. there maybe one....

landshark 08-06-2019 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ss27gogeta (Post 315533)
Hopefully this can be sorted out . i ordered mine last night so it's going to be a couple weekes before I can fiddle with mine. what dose it idle at. how dose it react when you going down the road and you give it a bunch of throttle quickly. I wonder if lifan will come out with a tuner for these efi models. or some software for a laptop to tune it or someone figures out how to hack the pcm. because if not we are probably stuck with how it came since there will be no way to adjust anything. I'm suspecting what your experiencing has something to do with the tune. and the idle is probably set in the computer untill someone figures out how to hack it we are probly stuck with what we got. Not saying the tune is deffinuntly the cause. but I would suspect that to be the most likely. as even Japanese an European bikes can have simular issues when new. and it usaly the factory tune. if mine acts the same way its probly the tune. iif not it could be something mechanical


All of the same questions and thoughts I have as well. I don't think it is as simple as turning a limit screw. It reacts fine when cruising and then giving throttle. It reacts not so great from low rpms, like if you let the engine slow you all the way down in say 2nd gear to turn in a cul-d sac it gets overly jerky without ever touching the throttle to start accelerating. Way different than any carbed bike I have ridden.

landshark 08-06-2019 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pete (Post 315564)
dose it have a dialog setting/display in the panel
where you can make adjustments to the injection settings...

most yamaha's do... but there is no mention of it in the manuals
shop mechanics are ment to be the only ones that know about it
and how to access it...

Yamaha.... with the key off.... hold both buttons down while you turn the
key on... keep holding the buttons down till the dialog screen comes up...

try it.... you never know.. there maybe one....


I will try this tonight and report back.

JerryHawk250 08-06-2019 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by landshark (Post 315568)
I will try this tonight and report back.

Have you contacted American Lifan about the issue? Could be a bad tuned ECU. I'm sure if you reach out to them they will get it taken care of. https://www.americanlifan.com/contact/

ss27gogeta 08-06-2019 08:02 AM

I would also double check and make sure. your air filter is seated properly as well as the boots. check your spark plug and see what color it is and let us know what it looks like. better if you could take a picture. this would tell us how its running. make sure the gap on the plug is good. and check your throttle and cable make sure they are not sticking any were. and if you're comfortable doing it. pull off the throttle body and give it a good cleaning. could have got some junk in there on the long Journey here. I had a car that had some off idle issues. I clean the throttle body and its off idle performance returned to normal.

landshark 08-06-2019 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JerryHawk250 (Post 315570)
Have you contacted American Lifan about the issue? Could be a bad tuned ECU. I'm sure if you reach out to them they will get it taken care of. https://www.americanlifan.com/contact/


I will do this, just didn't want be too quick to cry problem if it's something I can figure out.

landshark 08-06-2019 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ss27gogeta (Post 315572)
I would also double check and make sure. your air filter is seated properly as well as the boots. check your spark plug and see what color it is and let us know what it looks like. better if you could take a picture. this would tell us how its running. make sure the gap on the plug is good. and check your throttle and cable make sure they are not sticking any were. and if you're comfortable doing it. pull off the throttle body and give it a good cleaning. could have got some junk in there on the long Journey here. I had a car that had some off idle issues. I clean the throttle body and its off idle performance returned to normal.


Agree, all things I feel like I should check before I worry too much about it. I need more time too play. Work just gets in the way...

JerryHawk250 08-06-2019 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by landshark (Post 315573)
I will do this, just didn't want be too quick to cry problem if it's something I can figure out.

It could be something simple as resetting the ECU. That's why I said to give them a call. Lifan like CSC has support here in the USA unlike most of the other china bikes.

imapdog 08-06-2019 09:41 AM

oh boy, this is exactly my fears.
great video btw....

ss27gogeta 08-06-2019 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by landshark (Post 315574)
Agree, all things I feel like I should check before I worry too much about it. I need more time too play. Work just gets in the way...

I know how it is I work quite a few hours my self. so I probly won't mine together/ get any thing figured out super fast either.

ss27gogeta 08-06-2019 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by imapdog (Post 315583)
oh boy, this is exactly my fears.
great video btw....

It was one of mine to. I've been watching some videos on there kpr200. and the fule injection seems fine on that. I'm sure it will be fine once the bugs get worked out.

wedooit 08-06-2019 11:07 AM

hey shark.....welcome aboard! Hope you get it figured out, let us know the progress.

wedooit 08-06-2019 11:36 AM

Nice video from Ceasar, appreciate it! I wonder if he adjusted the valves, or checked them??? Nice looking bike, lots of cool improvements and design!

Shark, did you adjust the valves on your bike, or check them?

rags2wrenches 08-06-2019 11:37 AM

i believe that bike is one of the few that is California legal so im sure its WAY lean. another way to enrich mixture without playing with the ecm would be to install a larger injector.

JerryHawk250 08-06-2019 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by wedooit (Post 315604)
Shark, did you adjust the valves on your bike, or check them?

Didn't think of that but yes that would be one of the first things to check. Very common that most of these bikes come from the factory with the valve set with little no gap.

ss27gogeta 08-06-2019 12:11 PM

Just got an email from txpowersports that my bike shipped. I'm hopeing it gets here by Saturday so I can start tinkering with it and we will know if. landshark's Issue is just his bike or a more widespread issue.

ss27gogeta 08-06-2019 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by wedooit (Post 315604)
Nice looking bike, lots of cool improvements and design!

Part of the reason i went with the xpect. over the others most of the others look the same for the most part.and it looked cooler I really like how the head light looks at night .

landshark 08-06-2019 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imapdog (Post 315583)
oh boy, this is exactly my fears.
great video btw....


I would say let's not be afraid. It's just a low idle, and I haven't even really looked into yet. The bike overall looks and feels great.

wedooit 08-06-2019 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ss27gogeta (Post 315614)
Just got an email from txpowersports that my bike shipped. I'm hopeing it gets here by Saturday so I can start tinkering with it and we will know if. landshark's Issue is just his bike or a more widespread issue.

hi ss27, as Jerry and some of the others have posted....check your valve adjustment, there is a ton of info on suggestions for a new bike, lock titing, valves, etc...as what I call the masters of the china syndrome. congrats on the purchase....post some pixs

landshark 08-06-2019 01:54 PM

Just talked to American Lifan. The only way to properly adjust the idle is to take the module off and send it to them for adjustment. They supposedly have the one and only device that can reprogram the module.

ss27gogeta 08-06-2019 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wedooit (Post 315621)
hi ss27, as Jerry and some of the others have posted....check your valve adjustment, there is a ton of info on suggestions for a new bike, lock titing, valves, etc...as what I call the masters of the china syndrome. congrats on the purchase....post some pixs

I deffinetly plan on doing this probly will go through the whole engine. along with locktighting all critical fasteners. if they don't already have Loctite/nylock nuts. it might be a few day before. I ride I'm going through this with a fine tooth comb. But as soon as it hits my door I'll get you guys some pics I've yet to see a red one not even a picture of one. just the orang and green ones. is all I can find a picture of. so I can't wait to see it.

JerryHawk250 08-06-2019 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by landshark (Post 315625)
Just talked to American Lifan. The only way to properly adjust the idle is to take the module off and send it to them for adjustment. They supposedly have the one and only device that can reprogram the module.

I would check valve adjustment first before sending it. It's almost a guarantee that it needs adjustment. Otherwise you will be like a dog chasing his tail. lol Seen too many guys on here trying to adjust carbs and in the end all they needed was a valve adjustment.


Tutorial on how to adjust valves. https://www.cscmotorcycles.com/check...lve-adjustment

ss27gogeta 08-06-2019 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by landshark (Post 315625)
Just talked to American Lifan. The only way to properly adjust the idle is to take the module off and send it to them for adjustment. They supposedly have the one and only device that can reprogram the module.

At least there willing to straighten this out. and they might have the only module for now. but if these get popular enough. someone will hack the ecu eventualy hopefully they do. modding would be easyer if you can tune it.

JerryHawk250 08-06-2019 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ss27gogeta (Post 315627)
I deffinetly plan on doing this probly will go through the whole engine. along with locktighting all critical fasteners. if they don't already have Loctite/nylock nuts. it might be a few day before. I ride I'm going through this with a fine tooth comb. But as soon as it hits my door I'll get you guys some pics I've yet to see a red one not even a picture of one. just the orang and green ones. is all I can find a picture of. so I can't wait to see it.

http://www.powersportsmax.com/images...X-Pect/1-l.jpg

ss27gogeta 08-06-2019 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250 (Post 315631)

Thank you that red with the black rims looks awesome.

kingofqueenz 08-06-2019 03:21 PM

WOW JERRY!!!

AMAZING ISTRUCTIONAL LINK FOR THE VALVES!!!

My TBR7 is new ( 56 miles on it ).

Have not touched the valves yet ( busy mucking about with carb, clutch, fork oil etc. )

BUT.. I will want to mind those valves and that link is pure gold!

In fact, for others, there are a bunch of other cool manuals on that site that surely have cross appeal for the HAwk or TBR.

Sure I can watch vids, but those guides are great!

JerryHawk250 08-06-2019 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingofqueenz (Post 315637)
WOW JERRY!!!

AMAZING ISTRUCTIONAL LINK FOR THE VALVES!!!

My TBR7 is new ( 56 miles on it ).

Have not touched the valves yet ( busy mucking about with carb, clutch, fork oil etc. )

BUT.. I will want to mind those valves and that link is pure gold!

In fact, for others, there are a bunch of other cool manuals on that site that surely have cross appeal for the HAwk or TBR.

Sure I can watch vids, but those guides are great!

I don't know if the TBR or X-Pect are like the Hawk as far as room but on the Hawk the Valve adjustment can be done without removing the tank.

kingofqueenz 08-06-2019 04:04 PM

Thanks, I did see Motocheez do it without removing.

I'll take a look..worst case I'll yank the seat off.

Probably the coolest part about these bikes is the ease of working on and the lack of care in tinkering...meaning, if I bought a bike for $7k...I would stress over diving in head first.

For $1,700 brand new.. I had the thing ripped apart day one without a worry i the world....


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