KPM 200 Resource thread
 

PastorCZO:
Found a place for replacement parts
https://kpclubusa.com/collections/kpm-200

Okay, since the KPM 200 (LF200-3B) basically has an updated version of the NBf-2, and is a fairly new model, I decided to compile a resource list. Basically, instead of searching through my poorly named thread that most newcomers won't associate with what I'm doing, I'll make this one more appropriate.

Anyway, with everything I've found so far, Here's what's what.


Exhaust:

I have confirmed that the KPMOTO-Club exhaust works on this bike. It's kinda tight, but not hard to install. Just don't be afraid to force a few things here and there.

https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/A...im/refuge08-20

https://photos.app.goo.gl/inAND72b25C89mi48

https://photos.app.goo.gl/JfMxkxuEC9qkndKVA


Engine:

So, as I've stated before, the engine comes with two oil strainers. A coarse and fine strainer. But, if you don't think that's enough, I have found oil filters that may work: Fram ch6015-04
K&N KN-112 (confirmed fitment 3-12-2021)

Oil filter cross reference:
https://www.oilfilter-crossreference...rt/fram/ch6015

I haven't tested them yet, but I have 637 miles on the bike as of now. At 1200, I'll pop in the filter, and at 2400, I'll take it out and compare the first two oil change pictures. I'll also try and note any problems or power loss/gains I'm currently using Mobil 1 4T racing 10w-40. I'll use that same oil for the filter to strainer comparisons, then I'll switch to Castol 10w-50 4T

Here's some pictures of the oil change, and filters that could possibly work. In the filter pictures, the KN-131 is just there for size comparison.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/z3k1FxixEXpvHcJh8

https://photos.app.goo.gl/fC5YusCp8xQRUDyu9

K&N KN-112 filter install :
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Also, the engine did come with a Magnetic Drain plug, so no need to go looking for one, unless you just want a different color, or aluminum.



Suspension:

Ok, these DO NOT come with a shock tool. You'll have to find one on your own.
Edit: I've found that the ER32 sized shock tool works. Here's the multi set I bought
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08KD6RF8N...ing=UTF8&psc=1


The shock is pre-load adjustable and a two piece progressive spring setup. The fork is not adjustable. I really wish they'd fix the wording on that, because they make it sound like the fork is adjustable also. For us heavier guys, even with the pre-load maxed out, we'll still have too much sag. I'm trying to find measurements on the shock so I can see what can be removed from other bikes to fit, or for what size you will need for aftermarket shocks. I'll post links to any adjustment tools I find that can work.

For the swingarm spools, they take M8 or 8MM spools. These are readily available just about everywhere.

(NOTE: It seems as if the scrambler tires are no longer sold. The chinese market bikes may no longer be sold as scramblers anymore, and are more inline with what we get. tire links no longer work.)

Tire sizes are 100/80/17 front and 130/70/17 rear. These are CST tires, and I have found the scrambler replacement tires here:

/_yoycart_com/Product/625795363910
/_yoycart_com/Product/625795599556

The spoked wheels, if you want them, are here too:
https://www.yoycart.com/Product/615123023887/


I've not found the street tires the American bikes get. I'll be stepping up to 110/70/17 and 140/70/17 bridgestone S20 tires, but I was able to find the original tire size at Motosport.com and Revzilla.com.


Brakes:

FA197HH front and FA629HH rear. The front brakes are for a ninja 300, so any Ninja 300 pads should work. The rears are for a Grom, so there's a good place to look also.

Miscellaneous:

Rear racks, backrests, shifter and brake levers, and all kinds of goodies are found under this search.

https://www.yoycart.com/Search?Searc...00&catId=0&p=1

https://www.yoycart.com/Search?Searc...00&catId=0&p=1 UPDATE: Updated search results for yoyocart

If you want a more cafe racer look:

https://www.yoycart.com/Product/616455251080/


This list will be updated as more things are figured out.

Please feel free to add any information you have to it also.

Good info! Nice to have this all in one place. :tup:

Sticky, maybe?

'Dorito' from the 'Dorito and the Luchababre' YouTube channel had mentioned the engine being a slightly upgraded NBF engine. It makes sense because on the EPA/DOT certification, the KPM200 is on its own certificate whereas the KP/KPR200 are on a different certificate, and if I remember correctly, there is a 1 or 2 horsepower difference noted in the details on the EPA/DOT spreadsheet. Slightly off-topic, the 'New' KPMini 150 also has an upgraded 150cc engine as noted on its EPA/DOT certification. Also off-topic but Lifan related, American Lifan's Facebook page teased, once again, the KPT200 adv-style bike, which could be an interesting alternative as a trail bike (vs. the common dual-sports and the Zongshen RX3 which seems a little large and heavy as a trail bike) if American Lifan actually brings it in. We already know the engine is EPA/DOT certified in both NBF and NBF 2 form, so, American Lifan--yes please!

Great job, this is just what I needed to know. Thank you.

Yo Falkon45. Hello I'm new to the forum. I'm getting one of these KPM200's. From a local
dealer. When you ordered from Yoycart. Did you have to pay any import taxes. I want to
order some accessories, for this bike from them. And was shipping expensive.

Hi. I haven't ordered from yoyocart as of yet. I normally order from Aliexpress, and a few ebay sellers. I haven't had to pay any import fees when I've ordered from any of those sites.

What size rear sprocket does this have?

It's a 49 tooth rear sprocket. I have found a 45 tooth sprocket. I haven't put it on order yet. I do have a new chain ready to go, though.

For anyone looking at Yoycart I did attempt to order a few things. The shipping quote on the website estimates everything at 200 grams (just under half a pound). My order was estimated at $34 to ship by the website, so when the actual shipping quote based on actual weights came it at $250 I cancelled my order.

Is there a compatible shifter pedal for this bike? Mine is bent

Hey @PastorCzo, Yes, the shifter is located here:
https://www.yoycart.com/Product/5753...es_KPM200_LF20


Otherwise, you may also check these listings:
https://www.yoycart.com/Search?Searc...atId=0&catId=0

I had to purchase one myself so good luck!

Found a place for replacement parts
https://kpclubusa.com/collections/kpm-200

Awesome!!! Thank you! I'll update the main post. It'll go to the top!

I will say this, though. Watch the pricing on that place. The KP200 and the KPM200 share the same suspension, wheels, and brake components. But the KP200 parts are cheaper than the KPM200.

I couldn't find that kpmoto club exhaust anywhere and took a chance on an exhaust for the kpt200 which seems to work just fine. Only thing is that the flange/spacer piece going into the header was just a bit shorter. Shimmed them up with an additional washer and it pretty much bolts right up. Also the sensor is in a slightly different place but still fit fine. Definitely sounds better. Can't say I've noticed a performance difference but I also don't have a ton of miles on her yet.

You can see it here

https://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/...05001616982790

Did you ever throw the 45T on? Where did you get it from? Curious how it did with a 4 tooth drop. I'm interested in possibly changing mine out, but not sure what other rear sprockets are compatible. Any suggestions? Thanks!

What's the coolant type for the KPM ? My owner's manual has a coolant section, but it doesn't mention what to put in it

I haven't ordered it yet. I need to find it again. Been busy with my yamaha and the kiddo's bikes lately, and put a lot of KPM stuff on the back burner, unfortunately. I'll try and find it, and get that and the front sprocket on order.

Mine came with a bottle of coolant. It looked to be similar to engine ice, but in a random bottle. I use engine ice in all my bikes. It works really well, and you don't have to mix it. But, it is not compatible with and not to be mixed with any glycol based coolant. So, if you do use it, make sure you flush your system well first.

It doesn't take much. I thought it would take more than it did, seeing as I had to fill two radiator, plus the engine, but it didn't even empty the whole quart bottle.

You've got me scared now. My bike came with oil and gas in it. I made the assumption that coolant was in it as well and that the silver bottle was replacement oil that I just wasn't going to use because it was some dumb unlabeled stuff. Press F in the chat.. I've put 500 miles on it without it throwing a code, just put the silver bottle coolant in it now. Anything I should keep an eye out for since I probably damaged it in some way?

:doh::doh::doh:

Lol. You're probably okay. If it's not smoking or boiling over, you didn't ruin anything. These are still air cooled derivative engines. They probably left some air cooled properties in it to protect it. Just make sure you properly burped the system to have all the air out.

Next time you change the oil, make sure it doesn't look like chocolate milk. If it does, you have a BHG (blown head gasket), and it need to come apart.

I'm looking for gasket kits that can fit, actually. I want to do some head work, and kinda looking for a cam.

Also, I'm looking for an aftermarket clutch, as I think mine is slipping. Heavy boy, plus being REALLY hard on the bike with clutchless shifts, hard full throttle acceleration almost all the time, and a few attempts at clutch dump wheelies takes it's toll. lol.

Honestly, this thing is far more durable than expected. Whoever gets it next will have a lot of upgrades. lol.

I hear ya, most of my work lately has been to my Royal Enfield so my KPM is lonely as well. I'll be curious to hear what you find as far as front and rear sprockets and if you have any luck with a cam. I'm a tinkerer by nature so I love to mod bikes when I can. It's the only thing I don't like about the KPM. There just isn't the support other bikes have. I'd be fine to run it at stock, but half the reason I buy bikes is to play with them when I can't ride them!

https://www.yoycart.com/Product/649820300216/

Here's the sprocket. I actually forgot that I ordered these. I tried to order through these guys, and apparently, it didn't get paid, so I was never charged. My security features on my card are super hardcore, so unusual purchases to other countries are flagged and blocked immediately. That's a very good thing, but makes it hard to buy stuff sometimes. lol

Has anyone found a wiring diagram? Doing a walk around today I noticed my rear brake pedal doesn't trigger the light and also the high beam switch doesn't work. The momentary finger switch works, but not the wide beam thumb switch.

No wiring diagrams as of yet, as far as I know. There might be a simple one line in the manual. That could be a start. I know my horn button no longer works. But, that's because it sat out in the weather for a month last winter

Turns out the headlamp works only when the bike is running, which is weird but fine for now. The rear brake light switch is still a problem and I don't see any obvious wires.

Ok. From how you explained the high beam, you made it sound like it didn't work at all. Yeah, that's not unusual. The headlight on my Yamaha doesn't turn on at all until you press the start button.

The switch for the rear brake light skins be next to the rear master cylinder, or right below it. Should be easy to spot the wires for it.

Just so folks know, pegs for a KLR650 appear to fit this bike quite well. You may loose the functionality of the return springs, but the pin size and mount spacing/angle all line up nicely.

Tires for this bike are not a super common size in the US. I wanted something with some bite for dirt roads and found that a Continental TKC80 in 120/70 17 will fit with about an inch to clear the fender. On the back a Shinko E805 in 130/80 17 will fit, but it's tight if your chain hasn't stretched much. I ended up dropping to a 15t sprocket up front to help it clear and for the low gearing and that worked. If it were a street tire I believe that size would fit no problem.

Mirrors... Mine came with mirror mounts threaded on the levers on both sides of the bar which I assume is standard. The threaded mounts take a standard 10mm threaded mirror that is SUPER common on metric bikes. They can be had for cheap in many places but it may be nice to get some bar end weights to reduce vibration if you take the stock mirrors off. You can get mirrors and weights for around $30 total.

Measured the rear shock tonight. Eye to eye was spot-on 12.5 inches unweighted but still on the bike.

Awesome!! Thank you! I'll start looking for shocks now

Ok. I've started the search for shocks. 12.5" is 317.5mm. The range I'm looking into is 315-320mm. A 10mm space isn't too bad. That's about 25/64".

The biggest problem so far is bolt size, and spacing for the mount bosses. I'm looking at an 2018 R1 shock. Almost the same shock as my 2018 MT-10 shock, except it has height adjustment, unlike the MT-10. So, FULLY adjustable!! Sprung for a bike about 100lbs heavier, but used a bellcrank and dogbone, so it could still be sprung kinda light.

Either way, I've got time now, so I'll do some experimenting.

There are wires coming out of the top of rear master cylinder that trigger the brake light. They lead up to a plug that's in the area by the seat. Check those wires and the plug to make sure nothing came loose. There is a chance the switch in the cylinder went bad if you can't trace the problem to anything else. I haven't looked to see if the switch is replaceable or if it would mean a whole new cylinder.

Oil question
 

I saw the type and the filter I can change it with but I was wondering how much oil do the kpms take? Sorry this is my very first motorcycle so I don’t know much about them. Thank you for any help

They take about a quart. There is a sight glass to check oil level. Just make sure when you're filling it back up, and the bike is straight up and down, and not on it's kickstand. Fill slowly, as the oil takes a while to get to the sight glass. Once you make it to level put the fill cap back on, start the bike and let to run for about 30 seconds, then check the oil again after a couple minutes. Add oil if needed to get back to the proper level.

Thank you so much. Should I see the oil while the bike is running or when it’s cool?

When the bike is not running. So far, the only time I've ever had a bike that showed low when not running has been my RC390. You had to start the bike, then turn it off to see the oil level. lol.

What are we using for spark plugs ?

What about spark plugs ?

I'd love to hear what others are using too, I looked for an E3 or Pulstar equivalent but wasn't able to come up with a conversion. I threw in the NGK CPR8EA-9 with no problems (nor noticible benefit over OEM) but I do not have a lot of miles on it yet. This site's specs seem accurate:

https://www.sparkplug-crossreference...GK_PN/CPR8EA-9

I haven't done anything with the spark plug as of yet. Typically, I go with iridium. Usually the hottest plug I can find. But, since the compression of this engine is pretty low, there won't be much benefit to it. Maybe a 1 hp gain. Not a lot, but enough for an engine that puts out so little hp anyway.