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Drewbogey 07-04-2022 03:22 PM

New to all this, input appreciated!
 
Didn’t know where to post, hope this works. Looking for advice to a bunch of questions. I’m new to the whole china bike thing, haven’t ridden since I was a teen some 10 years ago on a new then crf230. Now I have bills, a home, a day job and a small business, children/stay at home wife, wanna-be hobby farm, etc. don’t want to spend an arm and a leg on a Japanese bike to sit there most of the time, don’t have ALL the time in the world (always enough to tinker on stuff with friends tho). anyway.

I’m looking at ordering a TBR7 from these guys. https://powersportsgonewild.com/prod...12862000562256
Is the dealer reputable? Is the bike ok? What do I need to order/replace right out the gate? Is there a full kit somewhere for aftermarket must haves to make her run mint? I live in the PNW and plan to fart around my pops property and backroads. Probably 75% backroads riding. I’m like 5’7 and 185 lbs. hope this helps advice.

Any and all input is appreciated. Thanks guys.

TominMO 07-04-2022 05:30 PM

Never heard of these guys. Maybe others have and can give feedback. I'd recommend a very trustworthy company such as Venom:

https://www.venommotorsportsusa.com/

Drewbogey 07-04-2022 06:44 PM

It wouldn’t allow me to check out there, popped up an error every time. So I appreciate the link!

Drewbogey 07-04-2022 07:07 PM

Venom doesn’t seem to stock that brand, my search continues

dig4dirt 07-04-2022 07:39 PM

If you wanted to get a tbr7, I ordered from this place recently.
It is the deluxe version, but he did say they have the standard version for a lil cheaper

https://www.shopapmc.com/New-2021-TB...ded_p_241.html

You have to add in shipping, which was a bit over $300 for a liftgate to PA
Email them and ask for which colors in stock and ship cost.
THey are very responsive and response time is super fast.

I am 5'5" and lowered the mono to the max, and the front 2 inches.
I still tippy toe, or flat solo foot lol.

dig4dirt 07-04-2022 07:44 PM

Ohh, you can ride it stock, but the norms are:

sprockets (for road use), chain, carb or carb jets, exhaust/muffler, all fluid change b4 start, and perhaps more. check tire pressure, check valves etc.

d version already comes with all LEDs and cable choke on bars.

Drewbogey 07-04-2022 07:54 PM

Thank you! I will email them now to verify colors/ship cost. I’m shooting for a white one fingers crossed.
I thought the one in link was standard, know the difference between deluxe and standard? I assumed deluxe was fuel injected but such is obviously not the case.
Thank you for input, you obviously know the short guy struggle lol. I can live with one foot, and am happy to hear that’s achievable. You liking it thus far?
Also if you have any links on parts you’ve changed that would be dope. I can dig otherwise.

Drewbogey 07-04-2022 07:55 PM

And does it have the beep with signals? How do you disable that? Lol

dig4dirt 07-04-2022 08:00 PM

yes indeedy.

I kept mine attached, but wrapped it, so it is very quiet.

Otherwise, just find the box and clip a wire. Some yt vids on it.

Drewbogey 07-04-2022 08:00 PM

https://ntxpowersports.com/products/...33164788826249

Found this one available in white free shipping, but it says it’s in tx and everything I’ve read on here have said to stay away from some dealer in texas

Bruces 07-04-2022 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drewbogey (Post 380026)
https://ntxpowersports.com/products/...33164788826249

Found this one available in white free shipping, but it says it’s in tx and everything I’ve read on here have said to stay away from some dealer in texas

That’s a “Manny” dealership ,total scumbag ,unfortunately he owns several dealerships in tx so beware of any of them in tx .If you could buy in person from him you would be ok other than that very much not recommended to do business with that crew .

dig4dirt 07-04-2022 10:17 PM

Not sure about that one, I never heard or shown up in my search.
That is a good price if they have stock, ship quickly.
The TX dealer with the bad name is hit or miss, some do have good reviews,
but if there is a problem, it is normally big.
I chose to stay away.

However, the Tao Motor importer is in TX, my bike shipped from TX even tho the dealer is in TN.

Drewbogey 07-05-2022 01:56 AM

Sucks, looking like 1800ish all said and done for any of them on legit-ish sites. I wish there was a dealer local to me, but I’m up in WA and I’m not seeing any

Thumper 07-05-2022 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drewbogey (Post 380024)
And does it have the beep with signals? How do you disable that? Lol

This is an easy fix. Just snip a wire inside the turn signal module. Motocheez has a youtube video showing this.

But do you really want a DUAL SPORT? The CRF230 is an enduro. The frame, suspension, engine are all down-scaled on the typical chinese dual sport compared to the CRF. There are enduro-scaled Chinese dirt bikes that are street legal. The suspension is probable the most significant difference that you will notice, but the dual sport tires will prove to be completely inadequate compared to the knobbies you had on the CRF. Believe me, they will wash out in mild conditions!

I bought a TemplarX 250 from PowerSportsMax. The bike was shipped and arrived in my city in three days! If it wasn't a weekend, I would have gotten it four days! And I got the paperwork within two weeks. Mine came with motorcycle written on the motorcycle certificate of origin (MCO), so I was able to register and plate it, no problem. Geico had no problem insuring it ($35 added to my existing policy for a 12 month premium). I got the Templar X 250, made by Zuumav. It has the Zongshen 172FFM 249cc 19hp engine. It's great! Unfortunately, it isn't available just now. It would be worth calling and asking about:
https://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=31046
This is the same mil available on the new and much more expensive Lifan KPX 250 (which is another bike to look at, though it is a dual sport as well).

Templar 250 (not the "X") is STILL available for under $2000. It is equipped with USD forks (beefy headset and triple clamps, but under 250lbs! It doesn't have the luggage rack or adjustable suspension, but it does have the upgraded controls, wheels, and the same engine. Powersports max and amazon both have this bike.

There are other enduro-based bikes with 16 or 17hp engines, but with more substantial frames and suspension. If you are not expecting off-road performance, then a dual sport makes perfect sense.

Bashan makes some excellent bikes for dual sport ranging from dual sport oriented (Storm, or Brozz) to more off-road (knobby tires on the recon). See these models at shopapmcDOTcom or brozz250DOTcom.

The Bashan bikes have inverted front forks (USD). I own a Storm from APMS (Don), but Jeffrey at brozz250 also has a good rep.

I am just saying, you can get a lot of bike to $2000 these days. Even less than $2000! I can attest to the build quality and choice of good components (Zuumav) and the Storm. Lots of people here have Bashan bikes.

JerryHawk250 07-05-2022 08:20 AM

Venom Motorsports is probably one of the best dealers and so is Don with Shopapmc. If you want something comparable to the CRF230F i would get the Lifan KPX250. I just got one and it is equal to Japanese quality bikes. Lifan also comes with a 2 year warranty.
https://www.venommotorsportsusa.com/...d-street-legal

Venom also carries the Lifan Xpect. https://www.venommotorsportsusa.com/...bike-lf200gy-4

dig4dirt 07-05-2022 08:26 AM

I am digging the tbr7.
about a month on the road, so last week I sold my dd and plan to just ride all summer/fall
I am still tinkering, fine tuning the carb, but still runs solid.

Motocheez on yt has vids on popular upgrades, and has purchased/built half dozen over the last few years.

Prices have been continuing to increase, so $1800 or so is still worth it in my opinion.

Not much difference between the reg and the (d) deluxe. As even some vary with some dealers or time purchased/built.
I think the all LED lights, the choke cable to the bars. SUpposed to have USB port on bars also, but mine did not have that.
I went with white and took off stickers. Looks sweet white/black

I can send links to anything that I purchased when necessary.
Went with JT sprockets and chain. an ebay exhaust, vs the amazon.

TominMO 07-05-2022 08:41 AM

The X-pect is high quality and does have a shorter seat height than the KPX, so yeah, for casual offroad that would be fine. And it's much cheaper than the KPX.

Drewbogey 07-05-2022 10:48 AM

I appreciate all the insight. Making me rethink a lot. I’m good with more road oriented tires, it’ll see mainly road and some light logging roads/my dads yard occasionally with the kids. I’m really trying to keep it all under $2k, wife’s not thrilled with the whole bike idea at all so I wanna keep costs down to help me justify it to her/stay fed. I’ll keep looking

Drewbogey 07-05-2022 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig4dirt (Post 380045)
I am digging the tbr7.
about a month on the road, so last week I sold my dd and plan to just ride all summer/fall
I am still tinkering, fine tuning the carb, but still runs solid.

Motocheez on yt has vids on popular upgrades, and has purchased/built half dozen over the last few years.

Prices have been continuing to increase, so $1800 or so is still worth it in my opinion.

Not much difference between the reg and the (d) deluxe. As even some vary with some dealers or time purchased/built.
I think the all LED lights, the choke cable to the bars. SUpposed to have USB port on bars also, but mine did not have that.
I went with white and took off stickers. Looks sweet white/black

I can send links to anything that I purchased when necessary.
Went with JT sprockets and chain. an ebay exhaust, vs the amazon.



Links would be much appreciated. This is exactly where I’m thinking thus far. If the weather held longer here I’d consider commuting it more. It’s wet as heck here, and I commute 80 miles round trip daily

severely 07-05-2022 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drewbogey (Post 380058)
I appreciate all the insight. Making me rethink a lot. I’m good with more road oriented tires, it’ll see mainly road and some light logging roads/my dads yard occasionally with the kids. I’m really trying to keep it all under $2k, wife’s not thrilled with the whole bike idea at all so I wanna keep costs down to help me justify it to her/stay fed. I’ll keep looking

Something else to consider is the Bashan models have a counterbalanced engine, much smoother for the road miles. Good luck.

dig4dirt 07-05-2022 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drewbogey (Post 380059)
Links would be much appreciated.

The tbr7 has tires mainly for road. It was actually my main choice since I am commuting.
My commute is only 6 miles rt. (lol)

I, at the time, searched ebay and amazon for the lowest price/quickest shipping.

amazon items
42 teeth rear sprocket
130 link HD chain
Jets for Stock Carb (only main will fit, not pilot tho

ebay
17 teeth front sprocket
full exhaust just had to make bracket for muffler section and drill hole larger for mid section and also flange holes were made larger
NGK D8EA plug

Here you can see my running costs. $200 for upgrades, under $100 for lubes/oils/etc and $200 for full gear HWK or Hawk brand.
Everything brand new except I saved maybe $15 with the Cold Weather jacket but it was like new. Received it and I dont think it was ever worn.
-ORDERS/MODS- $197
$80 exhuast (ebay)
$12+22 sprockets f(ebay) r(amzn)
$19 chain (amzn)
$12 ext lights (amzn)
$10 jets (amzn)
$7 spark plug (ebay)
$7 storage bag (wm)
$28 tach (amzn)
-tools/oils- $90
$8 feeler (ebay)
$15 fork oil (ebay)
$10 loctite (ebay)
$29 lube/grease (amzn)
$14+14 rotella (wm)
-gear- $205
$40 helmet (amzn)
$45 cold jacket (ebay)
$50 warm jacket (ebay)
$60 pants (ebay)
$10 gloves (ebay)

So just under $1700 shipped to door with the $500 gear/mods added,
that puts me at $2200 total -- notary and tax (wont mention since that will vary with state)
Wifey doesnt work, so rainy days I just drive the fam car to work.

TominMO 07-05-2022 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig4dirt (Post 380092)
My commute is only 6 miles rt. (lol)

Wifey doesnt work, so rainy days I just drive the fam car to work.

3 miles?! Get one of these: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07LFGX4JW...views-81027-20

Unless you mean that wifey literally just reclines on the sofa all day, eating chocolates while watching soap operas and doing her nails, don't let her hear that she doesn't work. It will go badly for you.....:ohno:

Ol,fart 07-06-2022 07:49 AM

I bought my hawk from a Manny dealer. Texas power sports. Would not recommend ! They messed up my paper work and were so hard to contact I thought I was going to have to drive back to Arlington (150 miles) to fix it. No one there gives a shit.

Drewbogey 07-06-2022 12:28 PM

After some soul searching and advice from Thumper, I finally got a hold of don today and am buying a storm 250 from him. Just awaiting a shipping quote. The only in stock available tbr7’s I was finding were from manny, and I’m definitely going to stray away from him. Did find one old boy a couple hours from me with a real clean 250 Yamaha who’s considering trading me for a ductless heat pump install, but if Don messages me first I’ll buy the storm either way. Thanks for all the help guys! Ride safe

JerryHawk250 07-06-2022 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drewbogey (Post 380126)
After some soul searching and advice from Thumper, I finally got a hold of don today and am buying a storm 250 from him. Just awaiting a shipping quote. The only in stock available tbr7’s I was finding were from manny, and I’m definitely going to stray away from him. Did find one old boy a couple hours from me with a real clean 250 Yamaha who’s considering trading me for a ductless heat pump install, but if Don messages me first I’ll buy the storm either way. Thanks for all the help guys! Ride safe

Don is a good guy to deal with. I bought my Hawk and a UTV from him in 2016. Had some damage on the UTV and he sent out replacement parts right away. He always answers his emails and returns calls.

AJ22_ChinaRider 08-04-2022 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig4dirt (Post 380092)
The tbr7 has tires mainly for road. It was actually my main choice since I am commuting.
My commute is only 6 miles rt. (lol)

I, at the time, searched ebay and amazon for the lowest price/quickest shipping.

amazon items
42 teeth rear sprocket
130 link HD chain
Jets for Stock Carb (only main will fit, not pilot tho

ebay
17 teeth front sprocket
full exhaust just had to make bracket for muffler section and drill hole larger for mid section and also flange holes were made larger
NGK D8EA plug

Here you can see my running costs. $200 for upgrades, under $100 for lubes/oils/etc and $200 for full gear HWK or Hawk brand.
Everything brand new except I saved maybe $15 with the Cold Weather jacket but it was like new. Received it and I dont think it was ever worn.
-ORDERS/MODS- $197
$80 exhuast (ebay)
$12+22 sprockets f(ebay) r(amzn)
$19 chain (amzn)
$12 ext lights (amzn)
$10 jets (amzn)
$7 spark plug (ebay)
$7 storage bag (wm)
$28 tach (amzn)
-tools/oils- $90
$8 feeler (ebay)
$15 fork oil (ebay)
$10 loctite (ebay)
$29 lube/grease (amzn)
$14+14 rotella (wm)
-gear- $205
$40 helmet (amzn)
$45 cold jacket (ebay)
$50 warm jacket (ebay)
$60 pants (ebay)
$10 gloves (ebay)

So just under $1700 shipped to door with the $500 gear/mods added,
that puts me at $2200 total -- notary and tax (wont mention since that will vary with state)
Wifey doesnt work, so rainy days I just drive the fam car to work.

Thank you for the exhaustive list! :clap:

buzz 08-04-2022 10:01 PM

TBR7 all ways,bought 12/22/21 from Walmart $1508.00. Manny would not send me some missing parts,So Walmart jumped in ans returned all of my money. Thanks Manny for the free bike,Walmart saved my butt.

Ol,fart 08-05-2022 12:27 AM

All of the Texas dealers I've seen are owned by the same outfit. Would not recommend. The website says 1 year warranty, but your receipt says basically no warranty. Bought mine from TX Powersports in person after I found they got the Vin wrong for the registration it was very difficult to contact them. No one answered the phone and email address on the website was wrong. This combined with the fact no one there gives a shit. Made it very difficult to register and insure. Thankfully they were so slow with the paperwork when I finally got in contact with them they had not sent the incorrect Vin to the state yet. I'm sure it would have been even more difficult if I didn't live in Texas .


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