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allmotor 06-24-2008 10:44 AM

Zongshen
 
I have searched over 30 pages of forums and haven't seen much about zongshen... if you ride a zongshen please chime in with wha your takes on your bike is please.

dieselhead 06-24-2008 11:14 AM

Hi,
I have a 200 dirt bike that is a copy of the Honda CRF100 for my son and a 150 ATV Manual trans. for my daughter and both of these Zongshen engines start and run flawlessly. This is my first year running these units so I can't speak for longevity. The 200 engine in my Lifan enduro is identical to the dirt bike aside from the Lifan is a 163-FML and the Zong is a 167-FML engine. Its possible this particular Lifan engine is also make by Zongshen.

allmotor 06-24-2008 11:17 AM

sounds good... keep them coming!

red2003 06-24-2008 12:15 PM

Zongshen engine / tranny in my Roketa. Bulletproof and smoother then the Lifans. No tranny trouble like the Lifans have either.

TheBrainII 06-24-2008 12:40 PM

xxx
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by red2003
Zongshen engine / tranny in my Roketa. Bulletproof and smoother then the Lifans. No tranny trouble like the Lifans have either.

Whats this tranny trouble you keep mentioning? What should we be looking out for?

red2003 06-24-2008 12:43 PM

Several Lifan owners, our Moderator Frostbite included, have had Lifan trannies crap the bed. Not sure how widespread a problem it is, but it seems to effect the Lifans primarily.

allmotor 06-24-2008 12:56 PM

so if you had to reccomend a dual sport bike based on your expierence what would you say? What have you've ridden?

allmotor 06-24-2008 02:10 PM

so are the Qlink and Sierra 200 the same bike?

yurkia 06-24-2008 02:27 PM

I have a zongshen 200cc dirtbike (sorry no dual-sport, hehe ). I absolutely love it. plenty of power and top end for a dirtbike. Kind of a heavy bike. but great for the trails.

allmotor 06-24-2008 02:31 PM

nice nice so how many people that owned Zongshen's had major issues... I'm reading thumpertalk and cycle cruisers and they bash Zshen to hell.

theENIGMATIC 06-24-2008 02:44 PM

I think if you look forward to a great Chinese- with Japanese class- Enduro to hit the American market it will be a Zongshen......thats all I know!:)

allmotor 06-24-2008 02:49 PM

^^^ you lost me ^^^ are you saying it's a good bike ?

maf119l 06-24-2008 03:03 PM

I have a 200cc zongshen in a 4 wheeler.Does not have near as much power as my lifan.Even after doing the c-clip mod still under powered.Only ran it a couple of hours.May get better the more i run it.Thats the way my Lifan and Johnny Pag both did.

fatboy250 06-24-2008 03:03 PM

Red2003 and I have the exact same bike and I have right at 15k miles on mine. Dad has over 10k on his. I would recommend them to anyone. You will however still have to deal with the little china bike issues that we all have.

allmotor 06-24-2008 03:33 PM

alright sounds good... well i see alot of people really like the qlink is the motor and tranny the same as the zonshen motor and tranny>?

Trebek 06-24-2008 04:51 PM

Don't forget Hi-Bird/Komoto, they have Zongchen (sp?) motors. Very happy with the bike and motor so far.

allmotor 06-24-2008 05:10 PM

wait wait wait... Hi Bird and Komoto all have Zongshen motors?? So these are really good motors then? So then this leads to me to ask why doesn't more people own/ride zongshen bikes?

bex 06-24-2008 07:20 PM

I own a Zongshen Sierra 200cc bike, and totally love it! I have put on a total, up to today, 142miles on her, and she is feeling better everyday.

I also looked at the Lifan prior to my purchase, but with the seat height of the Lifan, and the looks of the Zong, I decided to get the Sierra 200. Couldn't have been happier.

I must add that the height of the Lifan put me off because I am a beginner motorcyclist practically, with 14yrs out the saddle and just getting back in to fight the fuel price surge.

Here is a link to some photos of my Sierra 200cc.

http://www.chinariders.net/modules.p...ewtopic&t=4522

alonzo 06-24-2008 07:32 PM

if the lifan transmission is something that really concerns you, don't let it too much. I have over 2,000 miles on my lucy lu and she has done nothing but love me long time 1.400 dollar! I have the link to the trans mod if I ever need it. but I think she is a good machine even if it isn't zongshen status.

culcune 06-24-2008 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allmotor
alright sounds good... well i see alot of people really like the qlink is the motor and tranny the same as the zonshen motor and tranny>?

No, Qlink is a re-badged Qingqi. Qingqi is actually the OEM for Suzuki's DR200 engine and frame, so you are getting Suzuki quality at half-price.

Jim 06-24-2008 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red2003
Zongshen engine / tranny in my Roketa. Bulletproof and smoother then the Lifans. No tranny trouble like the Lifans have either.

My atv has a zongschen engine and no problems so far... Though I should also mention I've had 2 lifans with no transmission issues either.

tcs 06-25-2008 08:25 AM

The Zongshen Sierra 200 (which was sold for a while as the QLINK XRanger) uses a Zongshen-built copy of the Yamaha TW200 engine/transmission design.

Yes, some other Zongshen models use Zongshen-built copies of Honda engine/transmission designs.

Zongshen claims that their newest models (not seen in N.A. yet) use Zongshen designed, proprietary engines/transmissions.

tcs

allmotor 06-25-2008 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bex
I own a Zongshen Sierra 200cc bike, and totally love it! I have put on a total, up to today, 142miles on her, and she is feeling better everyday.

I also looked at the Lifan prior to my purchase, but with the seat height of the Lifan, and the looks of the Zong, I decided to get the Sierra 200. Couldn't have been happier.

I must add that the height of the Lifan put me off because I am a beginner motorcyclist practically, with 14yrs out the saddle and just getting back in to fight the fuel price surge.

Here is a link to some photos of my Sierra 200cc.

http://www.chinariders.net/modules.p...ewtopic&t=4522

What kind of mods do you have if any? What crusing speed are you at? have you've tried contacting bruce for new sprockets?

allmotor 06-25-2008 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tcs
The Zongshen Sierra 200 (which was sold for a while as the QLINK XRanger) uses a Zongshen-built copy of the Yamaha TW200 engine/transmission design.

Yes, some other Zongshen models use Zongshen-built copies of Honda engine/transmission designs.

Zongshen claims that their newest models (not seen in N.A. yet) use Zongshen designed, proprietary engines/transmissions.

tcs

So the 2006 Sierra 200 did it come with the Yamaha OHC TW-200 motor?? If so can the TW-200 parts be installed into this motor?

katoranger 06-25-2008 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allmotor
Quote:

Originally Posted by tcs
The Zongshen Sierra 200 (which was sold for a while as the QLINK XRanger) uses a Zongshen-built copy of the Yamaha TW200 engine/transmission design.

Yes, some other Zongshen models use Zongshen-built copies of Honda engine/transmission designs.

Zongshen claims that their newest models (not seen in N.A. yet) use Zongshen designed, proprietary engines/transmissions.

tcs

So the 2006 Sierra 200 did it come with the Yamaha OHC TW-200 motor?? If so can the TW-200 parts be installed into this motor?

I believe so. Member SamM had pretty much verified it.

Allen

allmotor 06-25-2008 12:09 PM

alright... so why isn't there more forum members riding this enduro? I know it's prefrence but hey i'll ask anyways

katoranger 06-25-2008 12:31 PM

They were not as common as the rest of the GY bikes. The lifan styled bikes with honda styled engines are much more common.

Allen

Wool-Z 06-25-2008 01:21 PM

I got the sierra 200, n it's great. 50 mi on my bike n the only problem was when odometer stuck. I'm not sure where i live in PA people even know any of these china bikes exist. My bike is orange n black so everyone thinks it's a KTM till they actualy look at it.

allmotor 06-25-2008 01:52 PM

lol i'm going to pick up an orange one too. But i'm just scared cause the guy is not an authorized dealer and said these are the "close out" bikes. He is a whole saler and gets all kinds of random things... hand soap, cups, plates, pens, and what not that you would find at the dollar store and liquidation world/stupid prices... but he go in contact with a whole saler that has a bunch of Sierra 200's and i just don't want to get a beat up bike... its brand new in the crate still...

Rizn 06-25-2008 01:56 PM

sierra 200 owners beware, depending on which year bike u got, make sure and take care of it because I havent heard anything good about them, havent heard of one person making it over 3000 miles, plus they are a heavy and underpowered bike, not talking about zongshen motors, ive heard plenty good about them, jsut not the sierra

allmotor 06-25-2008 02:05 PM

intresting.. how many miles does everyone have??

allmotor 06-25-2008 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rizn
sierra 200 owners beware, depending on which year bike u got, make sure and take care of it because I havent heard anything good about them, havent heard of one person making it over 3000 miles, plus they are a heavy and underpowered bike, not talking about zongshen motors, ive heard plenty good about them, jsut not the sierra

anymore information on what you are talking about here? I really didn't see much when i was searching about the bike. does the motor/engine go bad after 3000miles or is it the bike frame? Which years should we look out for??

Jim 06-25-2008 10:46 PM

The motor in my atv is a 200 cc water cooled engine 4 spd with reverse... Only a low number of km's though since I just got it...

allmotor 06-26-2008 12:27 AM

i want to hear from anyone who has a Sierra 200.. the newer model that looks like the Qlink... not the x-ranger but the newer Sierra... not to diss any other zongshen motors. What was the production years that we should avoid?

joek 06-26-2008 01:37 AM

you mean this one?
 
What dealer has these?
http://www.zongsheninternational.com...00gy-2_b_y.gif

these look real interesting
http://www.zongsheninternational.com...ys10gf-p29.jpg

bex 06-26-2008 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allmotor
i want to hear from anyone who has a Sierra 200.. the newer model that looks like the Qlink... not the ranger that looked like the hi-bird... not to diss any other zongshen motors.

A friend of mine has a Zongshen Sierra 200, black, just like the one that I have and popularly advertised on the net. He has 1800+ miles on his bike, and its running super smooth.

I think these bikes are pretty nice, more pricey than other GY bikes, but I like their styling and build quality.

tcs 06-26-2008 08:53 AM

Re: you mean this one?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joek
these look real interesting

Ah, the new ZS125/150GY-10 Cyclone, Zongshen's liquid cooled, proprietary design dual sport/MX bike. It's "coming soon" all over the world, but I don't think it has broken cover anywhere yet. The more expensive models (with the yellow body work) have aluminum frames.

tcs

allmotor 06-26-2008 02:03 PM

any other zongshen 200 riders out there??

katoranger 06-26-2008 02:08 PM

One more comment. Those sierra models use an old size tires.

Allen

mrhyak 06-26-2008 02:33 PM

There were some advertised on ebay a few months ago for around $900 + shipping and they said they had 25 of them and they were located in WA. I never did see any more ebay sales after the initial one, but someone is selling them in Eastern WA on craigslist and I'd guess they are the same ones.


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