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UncleDarrell 09-25-2010 08:42 PM

Hello from Cochabamba, Bolivia
 
Hello...My name is Darrell and I am a retired American living in Cochabamba, Bolivia (South America). I feel very lucky to have found this forum as information on Chinese bikes are hard to come by. Here in Cochabamba there is a Chinese bike dealer on every corner and there are almost as many Chinese bikes and scooters on the road as automobiles. Half of the bikes on the road here are unregistered and driven by unlicensed college students from Brazil. I am in the process of getting my Bolivian motorcycle license (which is just short of difficulity as a lunar landing...that is why the Brazalian students don't bother). I am in the market for a China bike and after looking at about half a dozen different brands and dozens of bikes I think I have narrowed my choice down to a Kyngo. Actually I have fallen in lust with a Kyngo KG250-2A. My question is has anyone any experience with the Kyngo brand..good or bad. Local chatter says Kyngo is one of the best Chinese bikes (available here anyway). I'd like some unbiased reviews from people who know. Thanks....UncleDarrell

Weldangrind 09-25-2010 09:38 PM

I have no knowledge about Kyngo, but I'd like to welcome you to the forums. :D Glad you found us.

BrianW 09-25-2010 09:42 PM

Welcome to these forums, sir. I may not be of any help regarding your question this time, but hopefully I will next time. :)

FastDoc 09-25-2010 09:52 PM

Welcome to the forum. :D

I am not familiar with that brand but most Chinese bikes are pretty much the same, mixed and matched and rebranded. They fall into 3 catergories. Lifanoids (Honda clones, sorta), QLinks (Suzuki clones) and Zongshens (Yamaha clones). The later two are generally better bikes, but all will serve if you know how to turn a wrench.

UncleDarrell 09-25-2010 10:35 PM

I'd like to thank the group for the warm welcome. The brands named (Lifanoids, QLinks and Zongshens) are not available here BUT there are over a half a dozen brands for sale here no one ever heard of including Kyngo, Cronos, Haojin, Kinlon, Pegasus, Rudo, USM and Magnum. Its enough to make me dizzy. Pegasus and Kyngo have been on the market here a few years and have the best reputations locally (of course every one here covets a Japanese bike but costing 4X's the cost of a China bike those desires soon give way to financial reality)! Cost for a 150CC is 700-1000USD. A 200CC will set you back between 1100 to 1400USD and a two cylinder 250CC tops out at between 1700 and 2000USD. I originally planned on a 150cc, but my plans are cross country/mountain touring visiting the local villages (with quick getaways when the husbands return from working the fields) and I was told I really should bump up to a Jap bike or at least a China 250cc. Well thats my story and I'm sticking to it until a better story comes along. In any case check out the Kyngo website and see whats going on there. That is the one company available down here that you can actually get information on. When I started researching China bikes I was dumbfounded at the lack of information available on the brands available here and it would have driven me to drink if I hadn't already started (as a teenager). Once again thanks for the warm welcome...Uncle Darrell

SpudRider 09-26-2010 12:11 AM

Welcome to these forums; we are glad you joined us! :) I am also unfamiliar with Kyngo motorcycles; however, I did find the Kyngo website. The street bike with the largest engine on this website is the KG200TG.

http://www.kyngo.com/products.asp?fe...ibie=2&daihao=

This particular motorcycle employs a clone of a Honda engine; therefore, I would classify it as a "Hondoid." ;)

Spud :)

BillR 09-26-2010 07:50 AM

Re: Hello from Cochabamba, Bolivia
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by UncleDarrell
Hello...My name is Darrell and I am a retired American living in Cochabamba, Bolivia (South America).
Actually I have fallen in lust with a Kyngo KG250-2A. Thanks....UncleDarrell

Hi and welcome.
I've never seen that brand for sale here.
Checked out the website. Looks to be the "generic" China bike, so hopefully most question/answers can be found here.
That KG250-2A is nice, but I'd "lean" more toward the KG250 II :lol:
If that brand has a good reputation and a dealer network for parts, you could do worse.
Good luck,
Bill R

FastDoc 09-26-2010 01:25 PM

In the picture it looks like a Kinroad or a Khaos.

Like we have said, these bikes are like Mr. Potatoheads. There are a certain amount of standard bits, and different manufactures assemble the bits a little bit differently, then importers import them to various areas, sometimes further mixing up the bits.

Then distributers change the bits and put semi-random name decals on them and sell them for 15 minutes before going out of business. Then the bikes get resold and rebought, decals added or subtracted, a few bit swaps, then remarketed.

I had a Kinroad. It really was a poor machine, too many flaws to mention. It was the only CB I was happy to sell and thought was a poor product, regardless of the price. I do not know if that bike is identical, but it looks very similar.

UncleDarrell 09-26-2010 03:13 PM

Thanks for checking out my post. Chinese bikes come in so many colors and flavors but it ultimately tastes like vanilla. Just that vanilla also comes in many flavors of its own depending on quality. According to local legend Kyngo is the best made that is available here. Parts are plentiful and there is a motorcycle repair shop on every street and labor is cheap. I prefer the KG250-2A over the KG250 II for comfort. Although the KG250 II is more sporty the roads here are long and rough and hard on the back and shoulders. The KG250-2A is just more easy on my old body. I have been shopping around for months and everyone says Kyngo is the way to go down here and if its a Honda knockoff even better, but time will tell. Thanks again..Darrell

Weldangrind 09-26-2010 04:21 PM

Darrell, I like that the bike you're interested in is a vertical twin. Those are somewhat more rare in the China bike world, and I bet they're a smoother ride than a 200 or 250 single.

Is it a single carb setup?

SpudRider 09-26-2010 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UncleDarrell
...I prefer the KG250-2A over the KG250 II for comfort. Although the KG250 II is more sporty the roads here are long and rough and hard on the back and shoulders. The KG250-2A is just more easy on my old body. I have been shopping around for months and everyone says Kyngo is the way to go down here and if its a Honda knockoff even better, but time will tell. Thanks again..Darrell

I didn't realize the Kyngo website had eleven pages of motorcycles! When I saw the KG300S-2 ATV, I thought the listing of motorcycles had ended. :oops:

Perhaps a dual sport motorcycle will have a better suspension, and be more comfortable on the rough roads?

http://www.kyngo.com/product_show.asp?pro_id=204
http://www.kyngo.com/product_show.asp?pro_id=199

You would certainly get a lot of knowledgeable support from our forum members if you bought either the KG200GY-6, or the KG250GY-5. :) However, I am sure W&G is correct about the vertical, twin engine being smoother than the single cylinder engines. ;)

Spud :)

UncleDarrell 09-26-2010 11:00 PM

Weld, the bike is two cylinders. One of the only China bikes available here with two. As for the carb configuration I don't know, but I imagine it is a single carb configuration, that info doesn't show on the spec sheet. My friend and I fired one up saturday and it purred like a kitten. That and the comfortable configuration of the seat and handlebars is what sold me on that model.

SpudRider 09-26-2010 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UncleDarrell
Weld, the bike is two cylinders. One of the only China bikes available here with two. As for the carb configuration I don't know, but I imagine it is a single carb configuration, that info doesn't show on the spec sheet. My friend and I fired one up saturday and it purred like a kitten. That and the comfortable configuration of the seat and handlebars is what sold me on that model.

The KG250-2A is nice motorcycle, Darrell. :) Does it come stock with the windshield, and luggage?

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/q...goKG250-2A.jpg

Spud :)

UncleDarrell 09-27-2010 08:01 AM

Spud, the bike doesn't come with the windshield.. It does come with the luggage.

UncleDarrell 11-24-2010 06:37 PM

I can't believe it has been two months since my last post here. I was somewhat incorrect, the bike does come with the luggage and windshield. I am waiting for a new shipment of motorcycles to arrive here in Cochabamba, but I have also been window shopping all over Bolivia comparing prices on existing stock. So far the most expensive 250-2A I found was in LaPaz at $1950 (they finance at loan shark rates) and the cheapest was in El Alto at $1700. I have a couple of people here in Cochabamba looking out for the bike for me and promised me a good deal. Probably in the low end of that price range. The good news is last month I got my Bolivian motorcycle and automobile drivers licenses, so as soon as I get the bike I'm legal. The odd part is I have never driven a motorcycle and I really don't know how. Once I get the bike I gotta learn how to ride. That will be the easy part, getting the license was the hardest and somewhat expensive part. Hopeflly in the next month or so there will be a picture of me and my (hopefully) new Kyngo 250-2A here on Chinabikes...but I'm still not holding my breath..not yet!!!

Oengus 11-24-2010 07:03 PM

Kyngo is not a manufacturer they are a trading company, they sell bikes that are a collection of many manufacturers and they then sell them collectively under on brand name.

www.kyngo.com


The Kyngo bikes your looking at in Bolivia are coming through Chile.

humanbeing 11-24-2010 07:37 PM

Who builds Kyngo is still mystery. The "net" shows it's supplied by a trading company in Zhejiang only.
WMI will solve the puzzle: http://www.catarc.org.cn/vin/WMIVIN.htm :?

That bike is doemstic Honda Rebel "CA250" clone :o http://www.honda.co.jp/news/1994/2940128.html
Clymer manual covers ALL the basics u need to know.

Weldangrind 11-25-2010 12:44 AM

UncleDarrell, is there any opportunity for a motorcycle safety course? It's money well spent.

SpudRider 11-25-2010 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind
UncleDarrell, is there any opportunity for a motorcycle safety course? It's money well spent.

X2! Learning the physical skills involved with riding a motorcycle is very important; however, learning the mental strategies needed to ride safely is equally important. ;) You will never regret taking a good, motorcycle rider safety class. :)

Spud :)

humanbeing 11-25-2010 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind
UncleDarrell, is there any opportunity for a motorcycle safety course?
Spud :)

In a coutury NEVER driven a m/c & got the endorsement :? ie NO test/ No course
Materials/ advice from riders here is more important !!!

Oengus 11-25-2010 12:04 PM

I would say you should be ok with Kyngo Darrell, they have Chain Rail managed services involved in their operations and that could be why they have a good reputation. Chain Rail is a Taiwan based corporation specializing in operations analysis and process engineering. They set up inspectors in each supply line and monitor the goods coming across. They are behind Qlink in the USA which is considered a better distributors.

That’s just my opinion and based off a website, but if your getting positive feedback from locals it may be more about responsiveness and responsibility then anything that make Kyngo better, they have professionals involved.

Oengus 11-25-2010 12:13 PM

There may be many Chinese manufacturers but the engines and models are not very different could be called very wide but not very deep. The 250 is actually a 233cc and based on the 1994 Honda Rebel, actually a near exact copy and there are many factories making them, the advantage of managed services is that somebody is checking the production. There are defined methods of quality control that if adhered to on that production line then the results are better assembled bikes. The chains rail group is hands on they are not ordering off the internet they are in the factory supply line and actively monitoring.

UncleDarrell 11-25-2010 08:51 PM

I want to thank everyone who has posted information and advice regarding my post here. The bad news is there is no motorcycle safety or learning courses here. The good news is even though I haven't a clue how to ride I am a licensed driver...and...once I have the bike I can take my time and learn the both mechanical and mental functions of bike riding. I have driven a car for 40 years so I know the mentality of the roadways so I just have to adapt to a motorcycle line of thinking. 90% of the bike riders here in Cochabamba are not licensed or their bikes registered. Most but not all are foreign students who don't want the hassle or feel the need to go thru the licensing/registration process. I am retired from the US and am in the first year of my two year temporary residence requirement to be a permenent resident here..so I want to follow and obey all the laws, and being retired I have time to learn to ride safely. I have several friends who ride motorcycles and are willing to help me learn. Today I stopped by my corner dealer and she told me the bikes are in their warehouse..and If I really want to buy they will bring the bike to their shop (space is very limited) the price went up a tad to $1700. I have been shopping for several months and that is a deal from my experience. I said bring the black one and make sure it is the 250-2A and you'll have your money in half an hour! Hopefully in a few days at least I'll have a bike in my garage.

SpudRider 11-25-2010 09:21 PM

Darrell,

Congratulations on finding a good price for your new bike. :) If you have time after your bike arrives, please do start a new thread in our Street Forum, and post lots of photographs of your new bike! We love photos. :)

Since you don't have the opportunity to take a rider safety course, I will recommend an excellent book, Proficient Motorcycling, The Ultimate Guide to Riding Well, Second Edition, by David L. Hough. The ISBN number is 978-1-933958-35-4.

http://www.amazon.com/Proficient-Mot...0737825&sr=1-1

You might also consider two other, excellent books written by the same author. ;)

http://www.amazon.com/More-Proficien...ref=pd_sim_b_1
http://www.amazon.com/Street-Strateg...ref=pd_sim_b_6

If you wear good, protective riding gear, ride defensively, and practice the principals contained in these books, you will have a much better chance getting off to a safe start riding your new motorcycle. :)

Spud :)

Weldangrind 11-25-2010 11:53 PM

Spud's a wise man; defensive riding is the key. You'll likely hear plenty of advice, and here's mine:

Ride for everyone on the road. Complete your shoulder check before carrying out a lane change (you wouldn't believe how many new riders lean into a lane change as they shoulder check - that will only show you what is about to mow you down). Don't stay in position if somebody is tailgating you, because you can stop waaay faster. If you're alone, ride in the left tire track, because even junk cars usually have a left side mirror, but not all cars have a rearview or a right mirror. Don't ride in the center of the lane, because that's where the dripping oil from cars ends up.

I hope that your friends are careful riders. I know a few people who are still goofballs on bikes, even after many years (my Dad tops the list).

Again, welcome to the forum. Have a great time on your new bike. :D

humanbeing 11-26-2010 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpudRider
Darrell,
...Since you don't have the opportunity to take a rider safety course, I will recommend an excellent book...

If living aboard, Amazon.com isn't the 1st choice. The rate from http://www.abebooks.com / http://www.betterworldbooks.com are more reasonable.

SpudRider 11-26-2010 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humanbeing
Quote:

Originally Posted by SpudRider
Darrell,
...Since you don't have the opportunity to take a rider safety course, I will recommend an excellent book...

If living aboard, Amazon.com isn't the 1st choice. The rate from http://www.abebooks.com / http://www.betterworldbooks.com are more reasonable.

Thank you, Humanbeing. :) By all means, Darrell, choose the most convenient, least expensive vendor for these books. I merely posted links to Amazon.com so you could see the titles, ISBN numbers, book covers, et cetera. ;)

Spud :)

UncleDarrell 12-01-2010 11:35 PM

Gentlemen, thank you for your advice and insight. At 18:15PM on December 1, 2010 became the new owner of a Kyngo KG250-2A. had a choice of colors and I chose the black one. Once I get up and running I'll post some pictures. Thanks again...Darrell

SpudRider 12-01-2010 11:51 PM

Congratulations on acquiring your new bike, Darrell. :) If you have time, please do start a new thread in the Street Forum, and post lots of photographs of your new bike. :D

Spud :)

Lucien 12-02-2010 12:17 AM

Welcome Darrell, if you want to upgrade your exhaust, get a Pro-Tork (Brazilian), just check what Jap clone is your bike of. :wink:

Weldangrind 12-02-2010 01:41 AM

Congrats Darrell! Can't wait to see it. :D

jape 03-05-2011 12:14 AM

Oh dear. What happened to Darrell?
Did the bike not arrive/start, did it start and he then ran it into a truck? Or did too much booze at Xmas do the job?

jokes aside, it is always a worry when a new rider is 'disappeared'

Weldangrind 03-05-2011 02:00 AM

Here's hoping that he's on a really long ride.

UncleDarrell 03-05-2011 02:30 PM

Hello Guys,
I have been real busy lately and haven't got on here. I got my bike the Kyngo KG250-2A in black and I have been practicing. Still don't know how to ride good yet but I'm taking my time. Will update when I get better and get some pictures....Darrell

jape 03-05-2011 05:50 PM

well good on ya for replying. behind the jokes we do worry a bit when people just disappear! Glad you got the bike and looking forward to pics when you get out and about on it!

Weldangrind 03-05-2011 06:19 PM

Glad to hear from you. X2 on the pics! :D

SpudRider 03-05-2011 10:59 PM

It's good to hear from you again, Darrell! We eagerly await your photos. :D

Spud :)


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