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jaxtell 05-27-2011 01:35 PM

Yingang YG200-2F
 
Anyone have experience with the Yingang YG200-2F? Looks pretty cool....

http://www.massimomotor.com/CGI-BIN/YG200-2F-4.jpg

Or Yingang or Massimo?

Thanks,
jerry

BrianW 05-27-2011 02:23 PM

Welcome to the boards!

A lot of research done on Yingang by forum member Oengus found here.

http://chinariders.net/modules.php?n...972&highlight=

jaxtell 06-02-2011 11:18 AM

I read that one.
They also have this bike that looks like the other gy200 /200gy bikes:
http://massimomotor.com/CGI-BIN/YG250-8-1.jpg

Talked with Massimo (the US distributor), they seemed friendly.

Any other input on Yingang or Massimo would be appreciated.

Thanks,
jerry

FastDoc 06-02-2011 11:36 AM

That looks like a (heavy but) durable bike with a comfortable saddle.

I've asked before and will again, WHO NAMES THESE BIKES? :roll:

culcune 06-02-2011 12:50 PM

You would be smart to ask over on www.mychinamoto.com as well. There are several ex-pat (Europe and N. America) members who live and work in China and ride the 'local' bikes. Yingang/Massimo (Massimo have been around a few years, but dealt with different manufacturers and Yingang are new to them) and DongFang are two of the more recently imported (N. America) brands that seem to have done some homework and seem to have decent bikes overall. However, they are new here and don't have many owners, at least here on chinariders, other than the DongFang bobber which has a growing 'cult' following. One of the Chinese-based members of mychinamoto bought the 'naked' Yingang 250 sport bike and reviewed it on a thread. It seems to be a decent bike other than the very sloppy welding he found all over the frame on his bike; but he bought and owns the bike in China--but he does have direct communication with them, so that might help you out if Massimo didn't follow through with something...

culcune 06-02-2011 01:17 PM

Went to Massimo's site and read the specs of the Yingang bikes--the 200cc bikes use the tried and true 163 FML engine which is the pretty standard 200cc workhorse of many of the members Chinese bikes. I like that Yingang actually have designed different bikes than the standard GY-200 that most Chinese dirt bikes look like. Even the one that you stated looks like the other GY's looks a little different (in a good way) and looks similar to, dare I say it Spud, the Zongshen GY-2!!

The 2F model is based on the agriculture, or 'ag' bikes, seen in the parts of the world that have massively huge ranches that use them to get to remote parts of the ranches that ATV's find too far (for gas mileage purposes). Obviously, the racks are useful to us non-huge ranch owners for extra luggage on long trips!

My only criticism is the YG-5 with a 200cc engine--that bike should have at least a 250 to compete with similar Chinese standard/cruisers. However, living so close to Mexico and seeing the multitude of Chinese bikes there (mostly under the Italika brand name), I could see that bike fitting right in around here, 200cc engine and all.

I am intrigued by both of the Yingang 250 street bikes--the naked one because I like the look, and the sport one as it seems to be a viable alternative to the Ninja 250. The specs aren't clear on Massimo's site, but member Oengus/MJH (as he's known on mychinamoto) has stated something like 26 hp for the liquid-cooled fairing bike (he is able to find all kinds of info) which is pretty good for a Chinese bike if it's true!

culcune 06-02-2011 01:38 PM

OK, OK, one more post--but this is the thread from mychinamoto about the Yingang naked street bike...

http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/sh...-%28YG250-6%29

Weldangrind 06-02-2011 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FastDoc
I've asked before and will again, WHO NAMES THESE BIKES? :roll:

Massimo is a common Italian name, perhaps chosen to sound more European. Originally, Gio was Giovanni, likely for the same reason.

culcune 06-02-2011 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind
Quote:

Originally Posted by FastDoc
I've asked before and will again, WHO NAMES THESE BIKES? :roll:

Massimo is a common Italian name, perhaps chosen to sound more European. Originally, Gio was Giovanni, likely for the same reason.

I think he's asking about the name 'Yingang' :lol: although I don't think it sounds as 'funny' as DongFang :wink: :lol:

SpudRider 06-03-2011 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaxtell
I read that one.
They also have this bike that looks like the other gy200 /200gy bikes:
http://massimomotor.com/CGI-BIN/YG250-8-1.jpg

Talked with Massimo (the US distributor), they seemed friendly.

Any other input on Yingang or Massimo would be appreciated.

Thanks,
jerry

Indeed, I think Culcune is correct. The more I look at this bike, the more I begin to notice style similarities to the Zongshen 200GY-2. ;)

http://www.massimomotor.com/productv...20Bike&pid=160

However, this bike definitely has a Honda cloned engine. ;) I hope someone can give us a personal report on these bikes; they look very promising. :)

Spud :)

Weldangrind 06-03-2011 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by culcune
Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind
Quote:

Originally Posted by FastDoc
I've asked before and will again, WHO NAMES THESE BIKES? :roll:

Massimo is a common Italian name, perhaps chosen to sound more European. Originally, Gio was Giovanni, likely for the same reason.

I think he's asking about the name 'Yingang' :lol: although I don't think it sounds as 'funny' as DongFang :wink: :lol:

Of course, you're probably right. Sorry Doc. :oops:

roketa200E5 06-03-2011 02:20 AM

Don't forget the name Roketa.

http://www.massimomotor.com/CGI-BIN/YG200-2F-4.jpg

What a nice bike. I would probably name it:

Mule M200
Load Runner LR200
Work Horse WH200

I would never insult the bike with the name, "donkey."

jaxtell 06-03-2011 10:18 AM

Thanks everyone for the input. I am definitely leaning toward the 2f model. I'll keep you update, should I purchase one. My main use would be commuting to work and back.

http://www.massimomotor.com/CGI-BIN/YG200-2F-3.jpg

culcune 06-03-2011 01:27 PM

Jaxtell, you don't say where you are located. I called up Massimo (thanks to you and this thread, now I am very interested and hooked on the idea of Yingang :x ) :lol: to see if anyone sells them in Arizona, and found out that ATV Discounter (or something like that) sells some of their products (they had the Massimo's '35' dirt bike on their site). According to the salesman I spoke with, they ordered a few of the 2F bikes that you are interested in, a few days ago from Massimo. If I get the time, I might drive the 3 hours to Phoenix to see one in person...

culcune 06-03-2011 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind

Of course, you're probably right. Sorry Doc. :oops:

Weldandgrind, I think it's all in good fun, although the Doc does seem to have a warped sense of humor at times



:lol: :lol: :lol:

SpudRider 06-03-2011 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by culcune
Jaxtell, you don't say where you are located. I called up Massimo (thanks to you and this thread, now I am very interested and hooked on the idea of Yingang :x ) :lol: to see if anyone sells them in Arizona, and found out that ATV Discounter (or something like that) sells some of their products (they had the Massimo's '35' dirt bike on their site). According to the salesman I spoke with, they ordered a few of the 2F bikes that you are interested in, a few days ago from Massimo. If I get the time, I might drive the 3 hours to Phoenix to see one in person...

If you drive to Phoenix, please bring your camera, Culcune. :) We would love to see photos, and get a first-hand impression regarding these bikes. ;)

Spud :)

culcune 06-03-2011 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpudRider
The more I look at this bike, the more I begin to notice style similarities to the Zongshen 200GY-2. ;)

However, this bike definitely has a Honda cloned engine. ;) I hope someone can give us a personal report on these bikes; they look very promising. :)

Spud :)

I should have mentioned that when I spoke with the sales guy yesterday, he said their '8' used to have very "thin" tires and looked awkward...now it comes with a bigger rear tire (which I interpret as ala Zongshen GY-2); but definitely comes with the standard Honda-cloned engine; the 163 FML version.

culcune 06-03-2011 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpudRider
If you drive to Phoenix, please bring your camera, Culcune. :) We would love to see photos, and get a first-hand impression regarding these bikes. ;)

Spud :)

Most definitely!!!!!

jaxtell 06-06-2011 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by culcune
Jaxtell, you don't say where you are located. I called up Massimo (thanks to you and this thread, now I am very interested and hooked on the idea of Yingang :x ) :lol: to see if anyone sells them in Arizona, and found out that ATV Discounter (or something like that) sells some of their products (they had the Massimo's '35' dirt bike on their site). According to the salesman I spoke with, they ordered a few of the 2F bikes that you are interested in, a few days ago from Massimo. If I get the time, I might drive the 3 hours to Phoenix to see one in person...

Warner Robins, Georgia just South of Macon.

culcune 06-06-2011 10:42 PM

That would be a pretty far trip to Phoenix for you :lol: just to check out the bikes.

The store in Phoenix that Massimo told me to contact since they ordered a few of the 2f's has not answered the phone since last week! I then tried to email them and something was wrong, too (it is one of those form submissions, not an email), and wouldn't go through. Not sure I will deal with them; not because I find them way too difficult to get hold of, but because they have no way to get hold of them!!??

http://www.arizonadiscountatv.com/

jaxtell 06-07-2011 03:14 PM

I found another posted chinese video of the 150 version (I think):
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjUzMzA2NjA4.html

It explains the "features" (if you speak Chinese).

jerry

jaxtell 06-08-2011 08:51 AM

I opened it in Google Chrome and hit the translate button and the guy is still speaking Chinese (lol)!

jaxtell 06-09-2011 10:35 AM

My wife ordered the Yingang yg200-2f for me yesterday from Massimo (that's what true love is all about!). Should be in next week. I'll keep everyone updated with pics!
http://www.massimomotor.com/CGI-BIN/YG200-2F-3.jpg

jerry

Weldangrind 06-09-2011 10:39 AM

Hold on to her, Jerry! :D

Looking forward to pics.

jaxtell 06-09-2011 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind
Hold on to her, Jerry! :D

Looking forward to pics.

27 years and counting!

SpudRider 06-09-2011 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind
Hold on to her, Jerry! :D

Looking forward to pics.

X2 on all counts! Congratulations! :D You are a lucky man, Jerry. ;)

Spud :)

katoranger 06-09-2011 08:39 PM

I can't wait to see the real pictures. It is something different form the normal china bike.

Weldangrind 06-10-2011 10:36 AM

That's what I think as well. A very utilitarian bike. 8)

katoranger 06-10-2011 11:26 AM

It really looks like a good commuter bike. Large rack and crash bar.

SpudRider 06-10-2011 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katoranger
I can't wait to see the real pictures. It is something different form the normal china bike.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind
That's what I think as well. A very utilitarian bike. 8)

Quote:

Originally Posted by katoranger
It really looks like a good commuter bike. Large rack and crash bar.

I agree! I really like the agricultural versions of the dual sport bikes, and I wish more were available for sale in the United States. :D We eagerly await your photos!

Spud :)

culcune 06-11-2011 02:39 AM

OK, not the 2f (congrats, jaxtell!!!) but Yingang--On Massimo's site, they have the Yingang bikes separate from their own bikes--The Yingang bike looks like this:

http://www.massimomotor.com/productv...0Motor&pid=112

see the narrow tires?

The bike advertised as their own bike, the MSD-200 actually has the wider, Spud-Zong styled rear tire and is the bike that you would get whether you asked for the MSD-200 or the Yingang YG-8

http://www.massimomotor.com/productv...20Bike&pid=160

I look forward to Jaxtell's 2f posts, and hope to get hold of the dealer in Phoenix to get a look at them myself--or to get my own Yingang!! :wink:

jaxtell 07-06-2011 03:54 PM

So my bike came in last week. I haven't really had much time to mess with it. Overall in real good shape except for a few small scuffs from shipping. No owners manual? Place for a tool kit under the side plastics, but no tool kit.

Went over it with wrenches, all of the mechanical pieces were good and tight. Some of the racks needed tightening. Triple checked the oil.

Overall, I love the way the little bike rides. It sits much bigger than I thought it would. I'm 6'3" so I didn't want it to look too small.

The heel shifter took a little getting used to (been a long time since that CT90).

Had to tweak the carb a little to get the idle right, then out 2.6 gallons of gas in it.

Haven't received the Certificate of origin as of yet. Massimo has been good to reply, but I haven't received the Cert, and can't get a tag without it.

Also, in our state, we have to pay 7% sales tax on any vehicle purchased out of state, when getting the tag.

I'll try to post pics later.

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ben2go 07-06-2011 04:38 PM

Anything new on this?

humanbeing 07-06-2011 08:23 PM

That config is very common found on Tibetan's bike (#150 in this link)
Honda GL145 body (The chinese version WY125-A that basically a true blooded Honda )+pushrod 200 machine
Honda CGL125 (Mexico ....) which had same frame & many parts can fitted on YG.
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A guy knows which type of "horse" for Tibetan roads in previous trips around china , so bought a YG150-E
http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/showthread.php?3333 & later became the moderator of YG board : http://www.motorfans.com.cn/bbs/f_200.htm

jaxtell 07-07-2011 10:23 AM

Rode to work today, speedometer not consistent over 50KPH, would actually start decreasing in speed after 60? I'll check out both ends of he cable tonight. (Have 30 days in Ga to get a tag)

After getting to work (15 minutes), the idle was about 3000 RPM, turned the air screw out 1/4 turn to bring idle down.

Chrome on the exhaust started changing color (like normal).

Rode excellent! No complaints on how it handled and rode!

Thanks for the links humanbeing

Still waiting to hear on the certificate of origin. Massimo says they can't send another until Monday.

Still no word on a maintenance/owner's manual.



2LZ 07-07-2011 02:38 PM

Awesome news! That looks like a seriously useful bike! :D

jaxtell 07-08-2011 08:34 AM

A few photos taken with my cell phone:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-r...2007.14.35.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-o...2007.14.30.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-a...2007.14.11.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Z...2007.14.18.jpg

Sorry for the quality of the photos....

SpudRider 07-08-2011 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaxtell
A few photos taken with my cell phone:

Sorry for the quality of the photos....

Please don't apologize; thank you for posting the excellent photographs! :D Your bike looks great! How is it running?

The saddle looks very comfortable. The luggage racks look very beefy, and robust! The instrumentation is very nice, and the guards on the bike are superb! :D

Spud :)

jaxtell 07-08-2011 09:38 AM

:( Minor Issues:
• Speedo - I tightened the ends, better but still wanders at speed. I'll remove the cable and check it.
• Idle - In order for the bike to idle when cold I adjusted the air screw on the side of the carb, when hot it idles at 3000 RPMs. I'll need to adjust the idle screw on the bottom (I'm thinking) to get that set correctly.
•ÂTach bounces around, esp. at higher RPMs.
• Odd discoloration on the exhaust unter the side rack (wish it was black like everything else).

:D Overall:
Had a great ride to work this morning. Getting more comfortable with the heel and toe shifter. Everyone likes the look of the bike. It is Comfortable! Have yet to take it off road.

SpudRider 07-08-2011 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaxtell
:( Minor Issues:
• Speedo - I tightened the ends, better but still wanders at speed. I'll remove the cable and check it.
• Idle - In order for the bike to idle when cold I adjusted the air screw on the side of the carb, when hot it idles at 3000 RPMs. I'll need to adjust the idle screw on the bottom (I'm thinking) to get that set correctly.
•ÂTach bounces around, esp. at higher RPMs.
• Odd discoloration on the exhaust unter the side rack (wish it was black like everything else).

:D Overall:
Had a great ride to work this morning. Getting more comfortable with the heel and toe shifter. Everyone likes the look of the bike. It is Comfortable! Have yet to take it off road.

It sounds as if your pilot mixture screw (PMS) is set too rich. ;) Wait until the engine is hot (not warm, hot), and adjust the PMS leaner. Be conservative, and adjust the PMS in 1/4-turn increments; ride a mile or so, and note the results. ;)

The discoloration in the muffler is probably caused by a flow restriction. I think you might have a catalytic converter placed in the muffler at that location. ;) I hope Weldangrind will offer his suggestions regarding the potential removal of this restriction. :)

How heavy is this bike? Please do keep us updated! Your bike is one of the most interesting models I have yet seen; I love agricultural bikes! :D We would also love to see more closeup photographs, and photos of the bike off road. :D

Spud :)


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