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hnu13 01-17-2017 08:23 PM

LOUD backfire!!! Hawk 250
 
bike has a very loud backfire on deceleration..

- Mods -
stock pz30 carb
0.5mm overstock pilot jet
115 main jet
needle raised +2
mixture screw about 1 1/4 out
POD filter
spark arrestor out
baffle drilled out (about 8 holes)
cat removed

any ideas????

Sport Rider 01-17-2017 08:57 PM

did you check valve clearances?

Azhule 01-17-2017 09:03 PM

Usually "Popping/Backfire on deceleration" means : Pilot jet too small or Mixture Screw is off (usually a bit lean)... might need to check valve clearances too

Also... according to "Mikuni"... "some heavily modified bikes (free flowing exhaust) will always have some kind of backfire/popping on deceleration"...

You might try 1 1/2 to 1 3/4 turns or more on the mixture screw... make sure you go no more than 3 turns out... go to a bigger pilot jet if you go 3+ turns out

hnu13 01-17-2017 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sport Rider (Post 240883)
did you check valve clearances?

yes, just did them last week

pete 01-17-2017 11:56 PM

air leak in exhaust most lightly..

air is getting in and igniting the unburn fuel
that gets in on a closed throttle....

Fuel / Heat / Air = BANG

It may have always done it... now yer gutted the muffler
& removed the CAT you can now hear it...

My XT660 pops/bangs like a bastard on a trailing throttle.
But it has a AIS (Air Injecton System) to let air in to burn the unburnt fuel....
Clean air bullshit and all that..
never head it till I put the Metal Mule pipe on...




....

JerryHawk250 01-18-2017 07:30 AM

I agree with Pete. Sounds like an exhaust leak.

'16 TT250 01-18-2017 10:57 AM

If the bike has PAIR (exhaust air injection) blocking it off may cure it. Assuming it's tuned right and there are no defects this will likely stop the pop. If it doesn't have PAIR then you might have an exhaust leak or it might just be going lean on decel, not uncommon.

Weldangrind 01-18-2017 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hnu13 (Post 240880)
0.5mm overstock pilot jet...

Please explain what you mean.

hnu13 01-18-2017 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind (Post 240949)
Please explain what you mean.

i drilled out the pilot jet to 0.5mm

Weldangrind 01-19-2017 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hnu13 (Post 240983)
i drilled out the pilot jet to 0.5mm

Thanks for the clarification. If I'm correct in my understanding, that equates to a #50 slow jet. Since the Keihin style uses much larger slow jets than Mikuni, I presume that size to be in the ballpark.

Do you have an air injection fitting or has it been blocked off?

hnu13 01-19-2017 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind (Post 241011)
Thanks for the clarification. If I'm correct in my understanding, that equates to a #50 slow jet. Since the Keihin style uses much larger slow jets than Mikuni, I presume that size to be in the ballpark.

Do you have an air injection fitting or has it been blocked off?

whats that? lol
but seriously, I'm not sure what that is.

hnu13 01-19-2017 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pete (Post 240910)
air leak in exhaust most lightly..

air is getting in and igniting the unburn fuel
that gets in on a closed throttle....

Fuel / Heat / Air = BANG

It may have always done it... now yer gutted the muffler
& removed the CAT you can now hear it...

My XT660 pops/bangs like a bastard on a trailing throttle.
But it has a AIS (Air Injecton System) to let air in to burn the unburnt fuel....
Clean air bullshit and all that..
never head it till I put the Metal Mule pipe on...




....

i not sure where it would be leaking? i removed the header pipe last night and re installed it to make sure everything was proper, and it looked fine..

JerryHawk250 01-19-2017 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hnu13 (Post 241041)
i not sure where it would be leaking? i removed the header pipe last night and re installed it to make sure everything was proper, and it looked fine..

Did you replace the gasket?

hnu13 01-19-2017 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JerryHawk250 (Post 241046)
Did you replace the gasket?

no sir.
to the head?

JerryHawk250 01-19-2017 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hnu13 (Post 241052)
no sir.
to the head?

Yes the one at the head


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