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knothead · 05-17-2008, 05:15 PM

Well, I honestly didn't mean for this to turn into a hijack. But with terms like "lowlife" being tossed out I'll explain my side.
The deal with my getting pulled over and searched. It was around 9pm and dark. I left my house to drive ~5 miles to go to the grocery store and return some movies. No, I wasn't speeding, drunk(I don't drink, smoke, shoot up or take pills) or acting out in any way. I noticed that as soon as I got on the main road, a cop car was behind me, no big deal. Well, he stayed behind me all the way to the video store, pulled in behind me. I parked, went in and dropped the movies off and drove the Jeep to the other end of the shopping center to get some sodas and grub for lunch the next day, didn't see the cop who had parked in a dark corner of the lot, wouldn't have thoght anything about it if I had.
While I was in the store, it had started raining for the forst time in a couple of weeks... you all should know how slick that makes pavement. On top of that the exit from the store is on a sharp uphill grade and is always a bit greasy (there's a resturant in the centre, the exit is near the waste grease receptical). I tried twice to make it into the road without spinning the tires, on the third try I just let it spin (nothing crazy, just a little over idle) and made it into the road. Next thing I know, I have a freindly behind me with the lights on... sreaming at me through his PA to stop NOW!.. So I did. What did I get for my compliance? Oh yeah... a cocked and loaded .40 calibre about a foot away from my nose!... Now I have NEVER been in trouble with the law, nothing beyond a speeding ticket back in the early 90's, I wasn't used to something like this at all. To cut it short, I was treated like a complete criminal, detained for over an hour and a half while they searched my Jeep and my person for narcotics (I made the mistake of consenting) before they decided to let me go. I wound up filing a complaint with the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation who did there job very well. Turns out the officer who pulled me over had several complaints against him including beating up a 19 year old girl for speeding! The officer wound up loosing his job (and I hope he's flipping burgers, or worse!) and his boss (the local sherrif) was fined. Oh yeah, they didn't find anything one me nor did I get any sort of ticket.. TBI said it was an improper stop. So there, I have the TBI on my side! Now just WHO was the LOWLIFE here? Hmmm, seems to me the one abusing his badge and the public trust would be the lowlife... but that's just my opinion.

Now, for a normal stop the Supreme Court has said that 20 minuets max is enough time to write a citation unless an arrest is being made... they simply are not allowed to detain you any longer than that and they CANNOT pull you over unless they see you breaking the law. LEO's are trained to get you to give up your rights against self incrimination, the right not to be searched and once you waive these rights they will look for any reason, any little thing, to arrest, cite or harass. The police have their place, and they have definite rules the must obey. A society that rolls back the bounds of what those in authority (control) are allowed to do soon finds itself without freedom, totally under state control. That's why we have a Bill of Rights here in the U.S., those same rights the LEO's try so hard to get you to give up with every stop.

Here's a little education for ya. You may not totally agree with some of the content, but the message is dead on.

So I have said my part, apologies again for being off topic. But I do take great exception with the lowlife inference. Cops can be lowlifes as much as anyone else, but when you have a lowlife behind a badge... it's bad.

05-17-2008, 05:15 PM	#10
knothead Join Date: May 2007 Location: In the land of the busted up ricebowl Posts: 815	Well, I honestly didn't mean for this to turn into a hijack. But with terms like "lowlife" being tossed out I'll explain my side. The deal with my getting pulled over and searched. It was around 9pm and dark. I left my house to drive ~5 miles to go to the grocery store and return some movies. No, I wasn't speeding, drunk(I don't drink, smoke, shoot up or take pills) or acting out in any way. I noticed that as soon as I got on the main road, a cop car was behind me, no big deal. Well, he stayed behind me all the way to the video store, pulled in behind me. I parked, went in and dropped the movies off and drove the Jeep to the other end of the shopping center to get some sodas and grub for lunch the next day, didn't see the cop who had parked in a dark corner of the lot, wouldn't have thoght anything about it if I had. While I was in the store, it had started raining for the forst time in a couple of weeks... you all should know how slick that makes pavement. On top of that the exit from the store is on a sharp uphill grade and is always a bit greasy (there's a resturant in the centre, the exit is near the waste grease receptical). I tried twice to make it into the road without spinning the tires, on the third try I just let it spin (nothing crazy, just a little over idle) and made it into the road. Next thing I know, I have a freindly behind me with the lights on... sreaming at me through his PA to stop NOW!.. So I did. What did I get for my compliance? Oh yeah... a cocked and loaded .40 calibre about a foot away from my nose!... Now I have NEVER been in trouble with the law, nothing beyond a speeding ticket back in the early 90's, I wasn't used to something like this at all. To cut it short, I was treated like a complete criminal, detained for over an hour and a half while they searched my Jeep and my person for narcotics (I made the mistake of consenting) before they decided to let me go. I wound up filing a complaint with the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation who did there job very well. Turns out the officer who pulled me over had several complaints against him including beating up a 19 year old girl for speeding! The officer wound up loosing his job (and I hope he's flipping burgers, or worse!) and his boss (the local sherrif) was fined. Oh yeah, they didn't find anything one me nor did I get any sort of ticket.. TBI said it was an improper stop. So there, I have the TBI on my side! Now just WHO was the LOWLIFE here? Hmmm, seems to me the one abusing his badge and the public trust would be the lowlife... but that's just my opinion. Now, for a normal stop the Supreme Court has said that 20 minuets max is enough time to write a citation unless an arrest is being made... they simply are not allowed to detain you any longer than that and they CANNOT pull you over unless they see you breaking the law. LEO's are trained to get you to give up your rights against self incrimination, the right not to be searched and once you waive these rights they will look for any reason, any little thing, to arrest, cite or harass. The police have their place, and they have definite rules the must obey. A society that rolls back the bounds of what those in authority (control) are allowed to do soon finds itself without freedom, totally under state control. That's why we have a Bill of Rights here in the U.S., those same rights the LEO's try so hard to get you to give up with every stop. Here's a little education for ya. You may not totally agree with some of the content, but the message is dead on. So I have said my part, apologies again for being off topic. But I do take great exception with the lowlife inference. Cops can be lowlifes as much as anyone else, but when you have a lowlife behind a badge... it's bad.
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