08-07-2016, 07:44 PM | #1 |
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hill climb help
hello everyone ive been trying to do more challenging hills on my cg200 with a swapped zongshen 250 motor in it. its doing well for the most part and most of the issues are probably that i just need more practice. but can anyone give me any advice to help with this or good bike ajustments to make it easier to get up some of the looser/steeper hills. currently in second gear with a 17 tooth sprocket on about a 35/45 degree hill i get about halfway before i lose power and stall or wheelie the bike and flip down the hill. im sure this has more to do with my posture and clutch control but not to sure im new to the whole hill climbing
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08-07-2016, 07:44 PM | #2 |
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and im an idiot an just noticed this should be in the riding forum im sorry didnt mean to put it in this one
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08-07-2016, 08:41 PM | #3 |
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You have to be up on your feet bent over towards the front of your bike ,adjust your body position to match the traction you have and remember it changes sometimes so you don't just stay in one position .Hit the bottom with all the speed you can handle ,be repaired to gear down but avoid it if you can until you are comfortable with it as you can screw yourself if you blow a shift or mistime that shift and lose foreword momentum ,and be prepared for the bike to loop out if you can manage to keep the revs up and find traction .
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08-07-2016, 11:05 PM | #4 | |
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08-08-2016, 12:50 AM | #5 |
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Watch some trials videos. There is a reason why all the best extreme enduro riders aka Jarvis etc come from a trials background.
Before you can go fast, you have to learn to go slow. Balance, posture and body positioning is everything. Clutch and throttle control come next. Off road riding, especially gnarly difficult stuff, is mostly done standing up on the pegs. Try a hill climb in the correct gear, without having to shift halfway up the hill. |
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08-08-2016, 12:13 PM | #7 |
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No worries, your thread is fine here.
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08-08-2016, 05:22 PM | #8 |
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learning how to fail a hill safely is important as well, so not wasted time at all.
1 simple rule is shift your weight back on the seat when you need more traction and forward when you have too much. and practice, alot. |
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08-08-2016, 06:26 PM | #9 |
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And try and keep the front wheel lower than your chin! Ha ha
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08-08-2016, 08:27 PM | #10 |
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yeah im having fun learning to bail properly lol one of my first trys a few weeks ago ended with the bike landing on my head, thankfully i always wear a helmet it has the scars to show on it
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08-09-2016, 02:31 AM | #11 |
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1. Momentum
2. Feather the clutch 2. If you don't make it, turn around and give it another try with more inertia. Don't try to get going again half way on the hill as it's way too tricky and tiresome (usually!). |
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08-09-2016, 05:23 AM | #12 | |
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yer can't ride a trials bike to fast for long... the steering geomitrey will have yer on the ground pretty quickly... the suspension has very little damping & is sprung very soft.. foot pegs are quite high and back ferther than a trail/dirt bike.. motor are very fast responding at low revs with not much top end power all bottom end.. A trials bike climbs a little diffrently... with so much bottom end torque & super soft trials tyres run at 4/5psi.. they just have so much grip , you can use speed or slow right down... they seem to find tracton where a trail/dirt bike won't.. as yer can see in my sig I have a 77 Montesa Cota 348 that I ride in classic/vintage trials events..
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08-10-2016, 12:16 AM | #14 |
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Indeed. Even 70's twinshock Spanish (Bultaco, Montesa, Ossa) and Japanese (mainly Honda and Yamaha) trials bikes have the footrests in a position which is not comfortable for sitting down for anything longer than a short 15 minute rest. A 2 stroke of that period still weighed at least 50-60 lbs less than a street legal trail bike of that era too.
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08-10-2016, 01:58 AM | #15 |
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Does the OP want to get to the top of the hill riding straight up or just get to the top of the hill?
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