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Old Today, 12:56 AM   #1
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Need some help dear friends...Please!

Well I did it again, closed the image window and lost all my text as well. Rank amateur hours...Dammit


Ok, F.K's what I wrote last time but it was way to long. I have pictures to help. I also have engine and frame numbers. I think it could be a Loncin or Zongshen engine, but who really knows who built what?


It sold in Australia as a Kinlon KBR200RT, so 200cc OHV, not OHC. I really need to replace the gear lever but I have never had to buy something I cannot find parts for. Also a Kick start lever (I think this is the entirely wrong one fitted) and an Oil filler cap (almost no ability to unscrew it)


I have pictures with caliper measurements on them, done across the spline and thread. They are named images so if you hover over them, it will give you a name of which item it might be.


Frame number; *LLCJYL200AB100917*
Engine number; 163FML-2 *JQ051867*

The bike was registered in Australia in 2014, the same year of sale. If someone can tell me what the correct spline sizes are and the oil cap, I can purchase of AliExpress and have them inside of 2 weeks.



I would really appreciate any information anyone may have about the engine, as the only problem is the starter motor, it spins but does not engage.


Cheers, Jeff
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I would really appreciate any information anyone may have about the engine, as the only problem is the starter motor, it spins but does not engage.
I'm curious about the starter. If it spins, your halfway there, I believe. How does the gear look? My understanding is the gear gets thrown out from the spinning using centrifugal force. Maybe it's just stuck? Have you tried cleaning or throwing some WD40 in there?
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The engine was manufactured by Quingqi who does do some Suzuki engines .


 
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The only way a starter could spin but not engage is if the transfer ratio gear is missing or damaged. a 163FML should be CG200 clone.


Between the starter and the flywheel cover there should be a smaller cover that houses the starter transfer gear.


without it the starter cannot engage with the sprag clutch gear on the flywheel.


 
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The only way a starter could spin but not engage is if the transfer ratio gear is missing or damaged. a 163FML should be CG200 clone.


Between the starter and the flywheel cover there should be a smaller cover that houses the starter transfer gear.


without it the starter cannot engage with the sprag clutch gear on the flywheel.
I knew that...no, I had no clue. My understanding of things is rudimentary at best.
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I knew that...no, I had no clue. My understanding of things is rudimentary at best.



There seems to be a common issue with used Australian CG engines from unknown origins that have missing starter transfer gears and or a broken flywheel sprag clutch.


I know what it is because I had to fix my CG250 in much the less same way.


 
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