Project NX200

nx_guy · 06-03-2011, 01:27 PM

Project Honda NX125 to NX200.
Little did I know when I purchased this - I'd take it to the shop and pick it up in a box. Very sad day.

Here is the very happy days - but with out much power. It had loads of over spray on the plastics - been stored in a body shop.

Tires - hard and dry cracked

Looks like it will fit - right(?)

It's in the HOLE - if I can quote Bill Murray.

Now I'm stuck because of the wiring diagram issues with Lifan...

As you can see the garage floor looks nice, the motor came in the same week we planned to epoxy the floor.

nx_guy

FastDoc · 06-03-2011, 01:32 PM

AWESOME!!!!

Have you seen the wiring diagrams on Hooper Import's website?

nx_guy · 06-03-2011, 01:54 PM

Yes - it didn't match what was on the engine (163fml-2).

FastDoc · 06-03-2011, 02:45 PM

If you ignore the harness for the wires that deal with the gear position indicator it's pretty straight forward, if not time consuming.

I refer you to my threads on the construction of The Dirt Rat where I dealt with the same issue.

katoranger · 06-04-2011, 12:52 AM

You are going to have a great ride there. Looks like a perfect honda to be repowered.

SpudRider · 06-04-2011, 01:12 AM

Did the engine bolt right in, without any problems? The 163-FML2 engine looks great in your bike!

Spud

Weldangrind · 06-04-2011, 01:57 AM

That's gonna be the perfect 200cc bike. Nice and light, no frills and a very capable commuter. I do have my concerns about the front brake, but there might be a dirt bike workaround if necessary. I installed an '85 XR250 front end onto Son of Weldangrind's '83 XR200R, and it was a perfect fit.

Voila. Disc brake.

nx_guy · 06-04-2011, 01:00 PM

The motor went right in - top engine mount didn't work, but I can fix that.

After combing the inky-shadows of the internet. Looks like Lifan got a deal on some cheap wire because they changed their colors based off the diagrams I've seen.

I need a closeup look at the colors that are standard on the main harness coming out the motor.

Here is mine.
Top Row (left to right)
Green/White, Yellow, (blank)

Bottom Row(left to right)
Blue/White, Pink, Black/Red

If anyone can have l look see on their colors and let me know - I'd appreciate it.

nx_guy

Weldangrind · 06-04-2011, 01:57 PM

Just to clarify, did the Lifan come with a new CDI, coil and reg / rec? If so, I'd use 'em, rather than trying to use the Honda stuff.

Weldangrind · 06-04-2011, 02:03 PM

This looks to be similar.

katoranger · 06-04-2011, 02:15 PM

Is that the rectifier plug?

nx_guy · 06-04-2011, 02:25 PM

Because of new EPA regs and CARB stuff all I got was the motor.

I'd been trying to get the package deal since May but just now got one
after the fact and they removed the bundled items which would have
saved me the headache.

That diagram is different then what is on Hooper's site.
I maybe having other issues since I'm using the existing Honda stuff.

Getting spark, headlight doesn't work with key on, the starter does if
I jump it. It should start and run as is but would like to understand
what's happening + would be nice to turn it off/kill.

Thanks.
Back to the garage!!!

nx_guy · 06-04-2011, 02:27 PM

That's the Lifan Stator/Mag plug - cut off so I could connect to the stock wiring.

Weldangrind · 06-04-2011, 02:50 PM

If that's the case, I recommend Molex style connectors. The connector bodies and terminals are cheap, and the extraction tool allows you to take them apart for repairs as necessary. I buy the bodies and connectors at my local electronics store.

2LZ · 06-05-2011, 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nx_guy

Because of new EPA regs and CARB stuff all I got was the motor.

UH OH! Another PRK'er! 8O
My guess on the top mount would be that you're replacing a OHC motor with a OHV motor. Maybe the one Doc put in his Dirt Rat could have possibly mated up?
Just a keyboard guess........... :?

06-03-2011, 01:27 PM	#1
nx_guy Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 14	Project NX200 Project Honda NX125 to NX200. Little did I know when I purchased this - I'd take it to the shop and pick it up in a box. Very sad day. Here is the very happy days - but with out much power. It had loads of over spray on the plastics - been stored in a body shop. Tires - hard and dry cracked Looks like it will fit - right(?) It's in the HOLE - if I can quote Bill Murray. Now I'm stuck because of the wiring diagram issues with Lifan... As you can see the garage floor looks nice, the motor came in the same week we planned to epoxy the floor. nx_guy
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06-03-2011, 01:32 PM	#2
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	AWESOME!!!! Have you seen the wiring diagrams on Hooper Import's website? __________________ Happy to serve.
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06-03-2011, 02:45 PM	#4
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	If you ignore the harness for the wires that deal with the gear position indicator it's pretty straight forward, if not time consuming. I refer you to my threads on the construction of The Dirt Rat where I dealt with the same issue. __________________ Happy to serve.
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06-04-2011, 01:12 AM	#6
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	Did the engine bolt right in, without any problems? The 163-FML2 engine looks great in your bike! Spud __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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06-04-2011, 01:57 AM	#7
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	That's gonna be the perfect 200cc bike. Nice and light, no frills and a very capable commuter. I do have my concerns about the front brake, but there might be a dirt bike workaround if necessary. I installed an '85 XR250 front end onto Son of Weldangrind's '83 XR200R, and it was a perfect fit. Voila. Disc brake. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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06-03-2011, 01:54 PM	#3
nx_guy Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 14	Yes - it didn't match what was on the engine (163fml-2).
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06-04-2011, 12:52 AM	#5
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	You are going to have a great ride there. Looks like a perfect honda to be repowered.
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06-04-2011, 01:00 PM	#8
nx_guy Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 14	The motor went right in - top engine mount didn't work, but I can fix that. After combing the inky-shadows of the internet. Looks like Lifan got a deal on some cheap wire because they changed their colors based off the diagrams I've seen. I need a closeup look at the colors that are standard on the main harness coming out the motor. Here is mine. Top Row (left to right) Green/White, Yellow, (blank) Bottom Row(left to right) Blue/White, Pink, Black/Red If anyone can have l look see on their colors and let me know - I'd appreciate it. nx_guy
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06-04-2011, 01:57 PM	#9
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Just to clarify, did the Lifan come with a new CDI, coil and reg / rec? If so, I'd use 'em, rather than trying to use the Honda stuff. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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06-04-2011, 02:03 PM	#10
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	This looks to be similar. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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06-04-2011, 02:15 PM	#11
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	Is that the rectifier plug?
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06-04-2011, 02:25 PM	#12
nx_guy Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 14	Because of new EPA regs and CARB stuff all I got was the motor. I'd been trying to get the package deal since May but just now got one after the fact and they removed the bundled items which would have saved me the headache. That diagram is different then what is on Hooper's site. I maybe having other issues since I'm using the existing Honda stuff. Getting spark, headlight doesn't work with key on, the starter does if I jump it. It should start and run as is but would like to understand what's happening + would be nice to turn it off/kill. Thanks. Back to the garage!!!
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06-04-2011, 02:27 PM	#13
nx_guy Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 14	That's the Lifan Stator/Mag plug - cut off so I could connect to the stock wiring.
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06-04-2011, 02:50 PM	#14
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	If that's the case, I recommend Molex style connectors. The connector bodies and terminals are cheap, and the extraction tool allows you to take them apart for repairs as necessary. I buy the bodies and connectors at my local electronics store. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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