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04-15-2018, 06:37 PM | #2 |
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I already have a Hawk 250. I have heard about the DLX model but also that it will carry a hefty price tag of $3k!!! That is more than double the price of the original hawk 250
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04-15-2018, 06:52 PM | #3 |
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04-15-2018, 08:33 PM | #4 | |
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04-16-2018, 03:05 PM | #5 | |
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That is a water cooled EFI Hawk. |
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04-16-2018, 03:55 AM | #6 |
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For $3000, that thing better come with more than just EFI. I can add EFI to my Hawk for $200-300 right now.
For $3000, it better have the following. 1. Better forks - I.E. Fast Ace or equivalent USD forks. 2. Better rear shock - preload and rebound adjustment at a minimum. 3. Better rear swing arm - Not the stamped steel nonsense that can crush from tightening the rear axle nut. 4. Better hubs, spokes, and rims - Self explanatory. 5. Better plastic quality. 6 Better fasteners, bearings, and other misc hardware. It better be an amazing machine for that price point, because $3,000 is GOOD used Japanese enduro territory. Also, not to be picky, but for a bit more than 3 grand I can get an LXR250F - a bike that has some serious hardware AND a liquid cooled engine with 20 more cc's, 10+ more hp and 1 more gear in the trans. So it better at least come somewhat close to matching that bike for anybody to shell out that kind of cash for.
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04-18-2018, 04:53 PM | #7 |
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At $690 per unit cost, minimum order ten, I have to wonder where the sum of $3000 is conjured up from? As things stand, all Chinese bikes depend on being, "very affordable", which is a polite euphemism for cheap; Otherwise people would flee in droves to used or new Jap bikes. Someone in southern New Hampshire is trying to off load 2017 Hawks for $1900 a pop, and apparently has several, at least. I do wonder how he got them and what his margins are if FI bikes are $690?
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04-18-2018, 05:28 PM | #8 |
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The only problem is I don't see is that it's not EPA certified for off or on road.
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04-18-2018, 07:23 PM | #9 | |
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My guess is these guys are not importers and are buying the hawks for 1399 and just trying to make a few bucks on Craiglist. If they buy 5 and make 400/500 profit on 4 bikes they get the 5th one free. |
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04-18-2018, 09:04 PM | #10 |
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No thank you....I'll keep my 3 grand....
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04-19-2018, 07:50 AM | #11 |
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"I saw that someone was selling them for that in southern NH. Also there was a guy in central VT selling them for 1900 and had a few taotao quads as well.
My guess is these guys are not importers and are buying the hawks for 1399 and just trying to make a few bucks on Craiglist. If they buy 5 and make 400/500 profit on 4 bikes they get the 5th one free." Possibly so, but my point is, if fuel injected bikes are $690, (probably "Free on Board" in China somewhere) what must the 250RPS Hawk be, given the speculated $1600 price hike? FI does not cost that much. It is all speculation and for myself FI will not provide what I want ie 32HP, six speed trans with a tall 6th gear. I won't be holding my breath. |
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04-19-2018, 08:31 AM | #12 | |
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Now, if it can hold a candle to the higher end bikes offered by Pitster Pro and SSR - aka Fast Ace suspension with actual travel, alloy rims and hubs, etc. Maybe.
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04-22-2018, 10:44 AM | #13 |
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This may have been covered, however what is this? Looks like a regular Hawk?
They claim 75mph top speed..... https://www.tuffatvs.com/Detail.cfm?id=99 Last edited by wrastu; 04-22-2018 at 10:46 AM. Reason: more info |
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04-24-2018, 10:48 AM | #14 |
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I see it as false advertisement. Looks like a regular Hawk to me in the pictures. I would request actual pictures of these upgrades.
UPGRADES ALL OVER THIS ONE, HENCE THE DLX (deluxe) NAME!! Heavy Duty, reinforced fame, aluminum triple tree/forks, aluminum handlebars, aluminum footpegs, enhanced engine for more power on the low end, Hi-Flow exhaust and piping!! I see no evidence of these upgrades in the pictures. The Hawk comes with steel handle bars, steel foot pegs and a plugged up exhaust. Now if they actually do have these upgrades it would be a great price. The Hawk is capable of 75mph but not in stock form. It will take some fine tuning and mods.
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04-24-2018, 11:01 AM | #15 |
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Just for the heck of it I requested more information on the upgrades. Lets see what they come back with.
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