HAWK 250CC MSCO/TITLE problem?

Johnetattoo · 03-01-2022, 02:47 PM

I bought a Hawk from Red Fox Power Sports. They had two identical hawks on the website and unfortunately I clicked and bought the one that was listed as a dirt bike. It has a horn, turn signals, mirrors, brake lights and headlights JUST AS THE OTHER STREET LEGAL BIKE LISTED FOR SALE... and everything on it to be a legal street bike here in Mississippi I believe but I did not receive a MSO/Title or bill of sale and I'm pretty sure I will not be getting one in the mail. Reviewing the website AFTER I received the Hawk is says MSO: None.

SO, I'm assuming I could apply for the paperwork from Red Fox just like if I had purchased an ATV or something but can't get an answer from them.

The bike actually shipped from "CRT motor inc, Ricky"

Anyone else have a similar problem?

Thumper · 03-01-2022, 03:01 PM

Free shipping on the $300 higher priced Hawk which doesn't come with the correct paperwork, and $279 shipping for the Street legal "version". Crap. That IS confusing. So you actually pay $30 less overall if you get the street legal version. Weird. It does mean you pay less sales tax for the street legal version. Again, weird, and confusing. Sucks. Talk about small print !!

But call your motor vehicle dept. They may allow you to have it inspected by State Tropper or something to get the State Paperwork completed and bypass RedFox. People do this with custom cars, trikes all the time.

Johnetattoo · 03-01-2022, 05:16 PM

Tell me about it. I feel stupid not paying attention but it seems like they set it up to trick me on purpose lol.

Well, Redfox did finally get back to me and now I get to fill out some form and possibly pay for the MSO and bill of sale. I'm fine with that I guess. We will go from there and keep this forum up to date. Wish me luck!

OKdiver1 · 03-01-2022, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnetattoo

Tell me about it. I feel stupid not paying attention but it seems like they set it up to trick me on purpose lol.

Well, Redfox did finally get back to me and now I get to fill out some form and possibly pay for the MSO and bill of sale. I'm fine with that I guess. We will go from there and keep this forum up to date. Wish me luck!

Picked up on their website: "DB-36 250cc Apollo Deluxe Dirt Bike with 5 Speed Manual Transmission DOT and CRAB Approved".

Gives you immediate confidence.

I hope things turn out well for you.

**JerryHawk250** · 03-02-2022, 08:27 AM

I'd request the MCO and Bill Of Sale. I think MS is like Louisiana so you should be able to get it registered and tagged.

Johnetattoo · 03-02-2022, 04:27 PM

I did request a MSO and notorized bill of sale today. They are supposedly mailing it out tomorrow.

JerryHawk250, I believe MS won't give me to many problems getting it on the road as well.

They will surprise you sometimes though...depends on which lady at the Tax office you get

Johnetattoo · 03-18-2022, 12:25 PM

The MCO and Bill of Sale should arrive Monday. Here's to hoping it doesn't say DIRTBIKE.

Well, my MCO listing it as a DirtBike fear is over. The MCO actually says MOTORCYCLE.
Now on to the tax place once I have taxes in hand.

Johnetattoo · 03-25-2022, 03:18 PM

I went to the tax office today and had no issues!!!
The vin wouldn't come up in the system so the lady
manually entered everything. I am very happy. I've been thinking I may have purchased a paper weight.

Johnetattoo · 03-25-2022, 09:31 PM

So....to sum things up for somebody who might come
Across this thread and wonder if they can register their
Dirtbike version of the Hawk in Ms..... yes you can. My bike has no dot or NHTSA labels or tags on it from the factory....only the vin# stamped on it. It also will not appear on the NHTSA website if trying to decode the vin. The motorcycle didn't even come up in the computer at the tax office. The lady at the tax office manually entered all information after asking me the motorcycles color and then handed me a tag.

Ol,fart · 03-31-2022, 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnetattoo

I went to the tax office today and had no issues!!!
The vin wouldn't come up in the system so the lady
manually entered everything. I am very happy. I've been thinking I may have purchased a paper weight.

The vin on my Hawk wouldn't come up in the system and became a big problem getting insurance. Turns out there was one digit wrong on all of my paperwork because of a tear in the shipping crate on the vin number. Compare your papers to the bike !!

Johnetattoo · 03-31-2022, 09:06 AM

I triple checked it before I went to get the tag but I'm gonna triple check it again just to make sure my eyes were working right that day. 99.9% sure the bike and papers match though.

UPDATE: After a few days of back and forth, State Farm did insure the Hawk. They gave me full coverage for $18 a month.

Dmack · 03-02-2023, 06:27 PM

They couldnt find mine when i took it so they called jackson and they said nope its a dirtbike i showed the lady several people who have these in ms if you could hollar back at me i would appreciate it really needing a hand.

Johnetattoo · 03-30-2022, 02:31 PM

Liability insurance on the bike isn't going well....So far, State Farm can't pull the vin# up so they are kinda of just brushing me off it seems.

**JerryHawk250** · 03-30-2022, 03:39 PM

Geico online. Quick and easy. I had three bikes for $77/year. Just lability. The Hawk will listed under HAOSEN

Johnetattoo · 03-30-2022, 03:46 PM

Well. I will revisit Geico at a later date maybe but...my outstanding Geico quote online was cancelled yesterday and I was emailed and told that I would have to call them. My vin doesn't come up anywhere. Does your Hawk have DOT plates on the frame or anything JerryHawk250? Mine has nothing on it but a vin.

03-01-2022, 02:47 PM	#1
Johnetattoo Join Date: Mar 2022 Posts: 38	HAWK 250CC MSCO/TITLE problem? I bought a Hawk from Red Fox Power Sports. They had two identical hawks on the website and unfortunately I clicked and bought the one that was listed as a dirt bike. It has a horn, turn signals, mirrors, brake lights and headlights JUST AS THE OTHER STREET LEGAL BIKE LISTED FOR SALE... and everything on it to be a legal street bike here in Mississippi I believe but I did not receive a MSO/Title or bill of sale and I'm pretty sure I will not be getting one in the mail. Reviewing the website AFTER I received the Hawk is says MSO: None. SO, I'm assuming I could apply for the paperwork from Red Fox just like if I had purchased an ATV or something but can't get an answer from them. The bike actually shipped from "CRT motor inc, Ricky" Anyone else have a similar problem?
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03-01-2022, 03:01 PM	#2
Thumper Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Kansas City Posts: 2,423	Free shipping on the $300 higher priced Hawk which doesn't come with the correct paperwork, and $279 shipping for the Street legal "version". Crap. That IS confusing. So you actually pay $30 less overall if you get the street legal version. Weird. It does mean you pay less sales tax for the street legal version. Again, weird, and confusing. Sucks. Talk about small print !! But call your motor vehicle dept. They may allow you to have it inspected by State Tropper or something to get the State Paperwork completed and bypass RedFox. People do this with custom cars, trikes all the time. Last edited by Thumper; 03-02-2022 at 09:09 AM.
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03-02-2022, 08:27 AM	#5
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,590	I'd request the MCO and Bill Of Sale. I think MS is like Louisiana so you should be able to get it registered and tagged. __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S (Sold) 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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03-18-2022, 12:25 PM	#7
Johnetattoo Join Date: Mar 2022 Posts: 38	The MCO and Bill of Sale should arrive Monday. Here's to hoping it doesn't say DIRTBIKE. Well, my MCO listing it as a DirtBike fear is over. The MCO actually says MOTORCYCLE. Now on to the tax place once I have taxes in hand. Last edited by Johnetattoo; 03-22-2022 at 11:11 AM.
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03-25-2022, 03:18 PM	#8
Johnetattoo Join Date: Mar 2022 Posts: 38	I went to the tax office today and had no issues!!! The vin wouldn't come up in the system so the lady manually entered everything. I am very happy. I've been thinking I may have purchased a paper weight. Last edited by Johnetattoo; 03-25-2022 at 05:44 PM.
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03-01-2022, 05:16 PM	#3
Johnetattoo Join Date: Mar 2022 Posts: 38	Tell me about it. I feel stupid not paying attention but it seems like they set it up to trick me on purpose lol. Well, Redfox did finally get back to me and now I get to fill out some form and possibly pay for the MSO and bill of sale. I'm fine with that I guess. We will go from there and keep this forum up to date. Wish me luck!
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03-02-2022, 04:27 PM	#6
Johnetattoo Join Date: Mar 2022 Posts: 38	I did request a MSO and notorized bill of sale today. They are supposedly mailing it out tomorrow. JerryHawk250, I believe MS won't give me to many problems getting it on the road as well. They will surprise you sometimes though...depends on which lady at the Tax office you get
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03-25-2022, 09:31 PM	#9
Johnetattoo Join Date: Mar 2022 Posts: 38	So....to sum things up for somebody who might come Across this thread and wonder if they can register their Dirtbike version of the Hawk in Ms..... yes you can. My bike has no dot or NHTSA labels or tags on it from the factory....only the vin# stamped on it. It also will not appear on the NHTSA website if trying to decode the vin. The motorcycle didn't even come up in the computer at the tax office. The lady at the tax office manually entered all information after asking me the motorcycles color and then handed me a tag.
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03-31-2022, 09:06 AM	#11
Johnetattoo Join Date: Mar 2022 Posts: 38	I triple checked it before I went to get the tag but I'm gonna triple check it again just to make sure my eyes were working right that day. 99.9% sure the bike and papers match though. UPDATE: After a few days of back and forth, State Farm did insure the Hawk. They gave me full coverage for $18 a month. Last edited by Johnetattoo; 03-31-2022 at 06:10 PM.
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03-02-2023, 06:27 PM	#12
Dmack Join Date: Mar 2023 Posts: 2	Monroe county ms They couldnt find mine when i took it so they called jackson and they said nope its a dirtbike i showed the lady several people who have these in ms if you could hollar back at me i would appreciate it really needing a hand.
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03-30-2022, 02:31 PM	#13
Johnetattoo Join Date: Mar 2022 Posts: 38	Liability insurance on the bike isn't going well....So far, State Farm can't pull the vin# up so they are kinda of just brushing me off it seems.
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03-30-2022, 03:39 PM	#14
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,590	Geico online. Quick and easy. I had three bikes for $77/year. Just lability. The Hawk will listed under HAOSEN __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S (Sold) 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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03-30-2022, 03:46 PM	#15
Johnetattoo Join Date: Mar 2022 Posts: 38	Well. I will revisit Geico at a later date maybe but...my outstanding Geico quote online was cancelled yesterday and I was emailed and told that I would have to call them. My vin doesn't come up anywhere. Does your Hawk have DOT plates on the frame or anything JerryHawk250? Mine has nothing on it but a vin.
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