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Join Date: May 2009
Location: Chickamauga, Ga.
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zongshen sierra 200 rear brakes
i was just wondering if any of you zong owners have changed their rear brakes yet. the reason i ask is i wondered if the kawasakl eliminator rear brake shoes worked on it. my rear brakes are popping on take off and occasionally at low speed. i figure i will b doing rear brakes soon.
thanks
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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I believe it's the same hub as an Eliminator 125 so I bet the shoes would be the same too.
Spud of course will know for sure. :P
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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If you find that to be true, please document the process. If it all works out, we can add it to the Zong sticky to help other Zong / Ranger owners.
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good idea.
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Re: zongshen sierra 200 rear brakes
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Join Date: Jul 2008
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The brake shoes for the Zong's rear brake are 130mm in diameter, and 28mm wide. The EBC catalog lists a lot of brake shoes with these dimensions, including the brake shoes for the Kawasaki BN125 Eliminator. However, the holes which hold the springs for the brake shoes are in different locations, so I tried my best to match the distance between these holes.
I have a new, stock, rear brake assembly for the Zong, complete with brake shoes. I also purchased a pair of Vesrah VB-223 brake shoes, and fitted them to the Zongshen brake assembly. Although the Vesrah brake shoes are not identical, the fit appears to be good. The Zongshen springs also work well with the Vesrah VB-223 brake shoes. However, I have not tested these brake shoes on my Zong, since I performed an XT225 swingarm conversion on my bike. ![]() Perhaps a number of different brake shoes will work with the stock, Zongshen rear wheel. Also, some brake shoes come complete with springs, which might eliminate the need to match the spring hole distance. ![]() Vesrah VB-223 EBC 506 SBS 2034 Dunlop 9108 EDIT: SOK 204 brake shoes, available for sale on eBay, should also fit the Zongshen, rear brake drum. If someone experiments with another 130mm x 28mm brake shoe, and discovers it fits well in the Zongshen rear brake assembly, please let us know. ![]() Spud ![]()
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For the purposes of future reference, I have added this thread to the Zong Sticky, located at the top of the Dual Sport Forum. This link is entitled "Zongshen 200GY-2 Rear Brake Shoes," and is located under the Parts subheading in the Zong Sticky. Thanks for asking the excellent question, David!
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Join Date: May 2009
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im going to pull the wheel hopefully saturday afternoon to check them out. i will know if they need replacing for sure then thanks for all the great feedback.
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I wouldn't be surprised if you broke a brake spring, David.
![]() These brake springs are subjected to a lot of force, and can certainly fail. Each pair of brake shoes has a special spring associated with it; there is no standard spring size. :roll: Spud ![]()
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davidsonsgccc, if you happen to find a broken spring, please measure the intact spring (and take a pic). I'll be happy to measure some old Honda stuff just to see if I can find a match.
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That's awfully nice of you, Weld!
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Happy to help. Sometimes we get lucky with stuff like this, and we need to be more diligent about putting such info in stickies. Much easier than the search function.
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I agree.
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The Vesrah VB223 brake shoes fit the front wheel for the 90-91, TW200 motorcycle. Therefore, the brake spring for the front wheel of that bike should also fit the Zongshen, rear brake shoes.
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I had the lining separate from a shoe on my virago. Lock the rear tire up making a left turn at busy intersection. 8O I had noticed some stickiness prior to that.
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