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05-20-2015, 12:18 AM | #16 | |
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05-20-2015, 12:57 AM | #17 | |
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http://www.walmart.com/ip/Valvoline-...e-Oil/16879749
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05-20-2015, 01:17 AM | #18 |
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You gents are a wealth of information and I appreciate all the fine details thank you for taking the time to share!
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05-20-2015, 10:50 AM | #19 | |
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05-20-2015, 02:09 PM | #20 | |
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Thank you letting us know about this problem, Weld.
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05-20-2015, 06:09 PM | #21 |
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yikes. right now I have the oil recommended/sold by CSC on hand - that's whats going in it at the first oil change, but figured I should lay in some other oil for subsequent changes. I guess it won't be that Valvoline Product!
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05-20-2015, 06:12 PM | #22 |
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Nobody I know babies their motorcycles. Most are fat old farts like me who are too stupid to know when to quit. Tdub has done SS1000s, BB 1500s, 112*F desert days, two of the tallest peaks in Colorado, Death Valley, -35* Canadian ice roads in the winter, and a horde of other stupid stuff, and still went over 50k on her original top end. She was still running fine after being run out of oil, locked up, then refilled, restarted, and ridden ~330 smokey miles home. Yamaha builds some tough engines, almost as tough as Honda's CT90, which run fine with fry grease in the case from what I hear.
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05-20-2015, 06:16 PM | #23 |
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Valvoline makes an ATV oil for a reason. Quad service is generally way more severe than motorcycle service. You were using the wrong oil for the job. Not surprised you had a problem.
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05-20-2015, 06:38 PM | #24 | |
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If you don't like the 15W/40 diesel oils, you could keep yourself quite busy spreading your gospel on just about every other motorcycle forum. If you haven't done so, just go to ADVRider.com, Thumpertalk.com, or a host of other places and search 'rotella.' Many motorcycle owners have been using these oils very successfully for millions of miles on many different kinds of motorcycles. As with you, I am sure many of them don't baby their motorcycles, either.
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05-20-2015, 06:45 PM | #25 |
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Weldangrind is a very knowledgeable, and a very polite person. I'm sure he knows how to select motor oils, and doesn't deserve any condescending advice. I doubt the application was so terribly different to yield such unsatisfactory results. Maybe he got a bad batch of oil, I don't know. Even Valvoline can make mistakes; nobody is perfect.
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05-21-2015, 05:28 PM | #26 |
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Well, since you can't win the personal attacks begin. Been there before. Good bye. I don't need your crap.
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06-05-2015, 12:00 PM | #27 |
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Not done many miles on my RX3 yet 180 in all just commuting and noticed oil level steadily rising....just siphoned 300ml off to bring it down to the max and it stunk of petrol :-(
So I've changed the oil completely and used Shells Advance X7 same as I use in my other bikes. The engine and especially the clutch sounds sweet again they were starting to rattle :-( Thin diluted oil no doubt.....
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06-05-2015, 04:53 PM | #28 |
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Hey Vic,
I finally got around to fitting a new injector. Will let you know in the coming weeks if it resolves this "oil level rising" problem. Also I'm trying to blast my bike as much as I can. I read somewhere that being too gentle when running the bike in can create a glazed bore, leading to a poor piston ring seal. Don't know if this is true or not but thought it worth a try, as I have done 1800 miles, it can't hurt |
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06-05-2015, 05:06 PM | #29 |
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Look forward to hearing your results Katflap, I was keeping under 4500rpm when I first had the bike but using all the revs now and does run better... See how my oil level goes now I've put fresh oil in... Still to try a drop of two stroke oil in the fuel but considering your thoughts on how it might affect the injector.
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08-02-2015, 03:31 PM | #30 |
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GAH!
hit 200 mi today and have been stuck in the garage trying to do my first oil change. Took the bash plate off to facilitate access... the 17mm bolts for the oil screens are lodged to the point where nothing I've tried will get them off - it doesnt help that I have to use an extender to access them, so the socket keeps popping off when I try to really apply force. Is there some trickery to this? Also my oil was filthy :( glad I'm changing it at 200mi. |
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