Can someone help me pick which bike to get?

Megadan · 06-15-2018, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250

Choice on bike will also depend on you height or inseam measurement. The Hawk/TT250/Enforcer with 21/18" wheels is tall and more for the 5'10" and taller. Storm and Magician with 19/17" wheels is more for the vertically challenged.

The Seat Concepts seat for the TT250 drops the seat height down to a manageable 32-33 inches. Plus, with rider sag setup properly, once the rider weight is on the bike, anybody with a 30" inseam should be able to comfortably put their feet on the ground, or at least get the front of both feet down. It bolts right up to all 3 of the 21/18 bikes Hawk/TT/Enforcer.

Weirdly, the Magician has the second highest seat height at 32 inches, while the specs for the Storm show it to be the ultimate bike for the short legged at just under 29". Personally, I would get a Storm over a Magician for multiple reasons, especially for off-road use.

Cravin01 · 06-16-2018, 10:52 PM

I'm 5'10 and cant put my feet flat on my Storm, I feel it would be real close to the same on the Hawk.

My question is do you feel comfortable putting it together, if not spend the extra on the CSC because they at least ship it complete with it packed properly and customer service to take care of the small problems that arise with shipping.

If your good with assembly save the cash and get it in a create...it seems to be the safest way to get an undamaged bike with the other dealers.

GaryBD · 06-16-2018, 11:50 PM

Hi everyone, thanks for helping here. I'm 5'10". The magician looks like a nice bike, but looks a little odd to me, I just kind of like the look of the csc tt250 or hawk better than the magician.

As far as working on the bike, I would not mind this, in fact I can to keep the bike indefinitely so I'd like to learn the machine very well. I haven't really worked on motorcycles, but I have a 1969 vw bus and every year I set the points (I know these bikes dont have points), time it with light adjust valves etc so I would enjoy learning the motor to work on it. I can weld but don't do it often, I've only rarely broken down an engine. I'm just mentioning these things to give you an idea of my overall skill level.

I think the csc is a nicer bike, but seems like the Hawk would do fine for me. Its about $800 less so it makes it an easier buy to justify as a fun purchase. So it seems like I'm leaning toward just buying a hawk. As far as the rack goes, after seeing the csc tt250 rack for sale on csc website, I am very confident I can put a rack on the hawk very easily. If I do I will post some pics or a video.

I know people have said to steer clear of the old generation bike also, but so far I have not totally ruled one out. In part, this is because I like the look of the enduro with the square headlight and older style console. I grew up as an 80's kid and the more aggressive angulated plastic headlight and fenders look a little too modern for my taste. The hawk /csc tt250 are starting to grow on me though.

The other reason I've thought about getting something like this (https://www.superiorpowersports.com/...50mc-rte-r.htm) is they are apparently getting a little harder to find and being phased out, at least it seems that way. So I think to myself, I should buy this cool looking bike while I still can? I don't mind taking a little calculated risk as far as quality goes. I would not be terribly upset if a rim failed or if grazed a tree and had to mend some plastic. I would just fix these things.

But I wouldn't want to buy a machine I could not find parts for to fix if needed, or buy something that despite maintaining, treating and tuning up properly just runs poorly or fails.

So in summary, it seems like I would probably buy a hawk and add the rack (due to being $800 less than the CSC tt250, but if I thought the old generation enduro would more than likely be reliable and finding parts was not an issue, I think I would go for that.

dpl096 · 06-17-2018, 10:09 PM

If you truly want to get to know your bike then get the crate Hawk and start building that special understanding that only comes from wrenching on your own. I respect all riders but am admittedly biased when it comes to turn key jokers whose only mechanical connection to their rides is in fact turning the damn key.

timcosby · 06-17-2018, 11:08 PM

im 5'9" and hawk is fine for me. my heels not down at the red lights but most of the foot is.

Megadan · 06-17-2018, 11:45 PM

Tge TT250 literally bolts straight on to the Hawk. 4 bolts on the back come out, rack goes over the holes, rack bolts in place. Just need bolts for it.

Hawk 229cc · 06-18-2018, 03:58 PM

[QUOTE=GaryBD;283666]Hi everyone, thanks for helping here. I'm 5'10". The magician looks like a nice bike,

After i bought the hawk i seen some nice videos on the magician an if you like to be flat footed ,that would be a good choice too,if your going to ride more on the street ,its better set up for the road ,an a bit of the off ,you may wan to wait for the DLX hawk comeing this year said to be more dual purpose bike ,with efi too

06-16-2018, 10:52 PM	#2
Cravin01 Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Forney Texas Posts: 498	I'm 5'10 and cant put my feet flat on my Storm, I feel it would be real close to the same on the Hawk. My question is do you feel comfortable putting it together, if not spend the extra on the CSC because they at least ship it complete with it packed properly and customer service to take care of the small problems that arise with shipping. If your good with assembly save the cash and get it in a create...it seems to be the safest way to get an undamaged bike with the other dealers. __________________ Visit me on YouTube at "Project Next"! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6KTCi2GVbfRDv-2XCqHhsg?view_as=subscriber 2017 Bashan Storm Keihen PZ30 Pumper Carb,115 main jet,35 pilot jet, gutted factory exhaust, Sambo Digital Speedometer,LED blinkers, H4 headlight,D.I.D X-ring chain 428,17/42 sprockets,UNI cone filter.
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06-16-2018, 11:50 PM	#3
GaryBD Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 14	I'm 5'10" Hi everyone, thanks for helping here. I'm 5'10". The magician looks like a nice bike, but looks a little odd to me, I just kind of like the look of the csc tt250 or hawk better than the magician. As far as working on the bike, I would not mind this, in fact I can to keep the bike indefinitely so I'd like to learn the machine very well. I haven't really worked on motorcycles, but I have a 1969 vw bus and every year I set the points (I know these bikes dont have points), time it with light adjust valves etc so I would enjoy learning the motor to work on it. I can weld but don't do it often, I've only rarely broken down an engine. I'm just mentioning these things to give you an idea of my overall skill level. I think the csc is a nicer bike, but seems like the Hawk would do fine for me. Its about $800 less so it makes it an easier buy to justify as a fun purchase. So it seems like I'm leaning toward just buying a hawk. As far as the rack goes, after seeing the csc tt250 rack for sale on csc website, I am very confident I can put a rack on the hawk very easily. If I do I will post some pics or a video. I know people have said to steer clear of the old generation bike also, but so far I have not totally ruled one out. In part, this is because I like the look of the enduro with the square headlight and older style console. I grew up as an 80's kid and the more aggressive angulated plastic headlight and fenders look a little too modern for my taste. The hawk /csc tt250 are starting to grow on me though. The other reason I've thought about getting something like this (https://www.superiorpowersports.com/...50mc-rte-r.htm) is they are apparently getting a little harder to find and being phased out, at least it seems that way. So I think to myself, I should buy this cool looking bike while I still can? I don't mind taking a little calculated risk as far as quality goes. I would not be terribly upset if a rim failed or if grazed a tree and had to mend some plastic. I would just fix these things. But I wouldn't want to buy a machine I could not find parts for to fix if needed, or buy something that despite maintaining, treating and tuning up properly just runs poorly or fails. So in summary, it seems like I would probably buy a hawk and add the rack (due to being $800 less than the CSC tt250, but if I thought the old generation enduro would more than likely be reliable and finding parts was not an issue, I think I would go for that.
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06-17-2018, 10:09 PM	#4
dpl096 Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: East Central Hellinois Posts: 1,344	If you truly want to get to know your bike then get the crate Hawk and start building that special understanding that only comes from wrenching on your own. I respect all riders but am admittedly biased when it comes to turn key jokers whose only mechanical connection to their rides is in fact turning the damn key. __________________ ************************************************ * " Time you enjoy wasting, is not wasted." - John Lennon “I predict future happiness for Americans, if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.” ― Thomas Jefferson "If you don't know where you're going any road will take you there" ....George Harrison song
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06-17-2018, 11:08 PM	#5
timcosby Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: robertsdale alabama usa Posts: 1,007	im 5'9" and hawk is fine for me. my heels not down at the red lights but most of the foot is. __________________ 1991 harley heritage softail classic 2016 hawk kaw h1 400 tripple 13' long chopper in progress 2009 johnny pag bar hog 2004 hd electra glide ultra classic shriner edition 1997 harley davidson 1200 sportster 1972 harley davidson amf sx250
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06-17-2018, 11:45 PM	#6
Megadan Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 8,057	Tge TT250 literally bolts straight on to the Hawk. 4 bolts on the back come out, rack goes over the holes, rack bolts in place. Just need bolts for it. __________________ Hawk Information and Resource guide: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=20331 2018 Hawk 250 - Full Mod list here. http://www.chinariders.net/showpost....62&postcount=1 2024 Royal Enfield Shotgun 650 https://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=34124
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06-18-2018, 03:58 PM	#7
Hawk 229cc Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 214	[QUOTE=GaryBD;283666]Hi everyone, thanks for helping here. I'm 5'10". The magician looks like a nice bike, After i bought the hawk i seen some nice videos on the magician an if you like to be flat footed ,that would be a good choice too,if your going to ride more on the street ,its better set up for the road ,an a bit of the off ,you may wan to wait for the DLX hawk comeing this year said to be more dual purpose bike ,with efi too __________________
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