2012 Honda CRF250L: A Dual Sport CBR250R! - Page 12

SpudRider · 06-09-2012, 12:46 AM

Yamaha is adding fuel injection to the 2013 XT250 motorcycle.

http://www.adventuresportrider.com/f...ad.php?p=50088
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/pr...4/0/specs.aspx

The Yamaha is still air cooled, with a decidedly inferior suspension to the other, 250cc, dual sport bikes. The 2013, Yamaha XT250 has an MSRP of $5,190. :roll: Therefore, the XT250 is priced $700 higher than the more powerful, water cooled CRF250L, which also has a much better suspension.

Now, only Kawasaki has a 250cc, dual sport bike without fuel injection.

How long will this continue, and how much will a fuel injected KLX250S cost? :?:

Spud

FastDoc · 06-09-2012, 05:30 PM

The EU KLX's have been EFI since '09.

Ironically they are detuned and the carburetted version makes more power! 8O

They are made for the European noise and emmissions standards and a frequent mod for the European owners is to install a carburettor!

Go figure. :roll:

Apparantly the software is not easily modified.

I really love my KLX but would have gladly given another $500 for a good performance oriented EFI.

SpudRider · 06-09-2012, 08:05 PM

Yes, I know the European KLX250S has fuel injection.

My question is when will the North American KLX250S get fuel injection? :?: The following 250cc, dual sport bikes have fuel injection.

Yamaha WR250R
Yamaha XT250
Honda CRF250L

Suzuki doesn't make a 250cc, dual sport bike. Therefore, the Kawasaki KLX250S is the only 250cc, dual sport bike in North America lacking fuel injection. It must be coming.

Spud

FastDoc · 06-09-2012, 09:33 PM

I'm sure it's all about the money. Plus when the 2009 KLX came out only the MUCH more expensive WR had EFI.

gloud · 06-10-2012, 06:24 AM

Re: the euro efi KLX and lower HP you need to remember they have a tiered Licencing system by HP over there. (or they did) so they tend to be de-tuned
to fit in the lower HP class sometimes.

pete · 06-10-2012, 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpudRider

Suzuki doesn't make a 250cc, dual sport bike. Therefore, the Kawasaki KLX250S is the only 250cc, dual sport bike in North America lacking fuel injection. It must be coming.

Spud

We get a road legal Suzuki DRZ250..has a carb / DOHC /
air cooled motor...
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoser...39869_full.jpg

Also the Yamaha TTR250... nice bike
DOHC / air cooled / carb...

SpudRider · 06-10-2012, 01:03 PM

The DR250 and TT-R250 are nice bikes, Pete.

I don't know why the Japanese refuse to export them to North America. :roll:

At least we are getting the new, CRF250L!

Spud

pete · 06-10-2012, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpudRider

The DR250 and TT-R250 are nice bikes, Pete.

I don't know why the Japanese refuse to export them to North America. :roll:

At least we are getting the new, CRF250L!

Spud

Hard to figger out there thinking... The markets so big there..
You would think its first place they would try sell them..

Yamaha makes 4 250cc dual sport bikes..
XT250 / TTR250 / WR250 / XTZ250 Tenere.

Another bike we got here... a few used ones pop up now and then
kawasaki KLX300.. seems like it would be a nice size motor...

The local Yamaha dealers got a new 2012 road legal WR450..
Nice bike..the seat's almost chin height for me :roll: ..
thats the prob I have with most bikes I would like.. seat
height is just to high for them to be easly manageable in rough stuff..
A 850mm / 31' seat hight is about it for me these days...

Weldangrind · 06-11-2012, 10:13 AM

A manageable seat height and a 1/4 litre engine seem like the perfect around-town bike recipe. Maybe this new Honda will change the perspective of the other manufacturers.

FastDoc · 06-11-2012, 12:01 PM

Honda seems to be shifting more and more of their production overseas. They have a new adventure bike, made in Thailand I believe, that also vastly undercuts the competition's price point.

My Kawasaki KLX250S was also made in Thailand.

pete · 06-11-2012, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FastDoc

Honda seems to be shifting more and more of their production overseas. They have a new adventure bike, made in Thailand I believe, that also vastly undercuts the competition's price point.

My Kawasaki KLX250S was also made in Thailand.

My XR250 tornado is made in Brazil , same with
the new XRE300...

gloud · 06-20-2012, 10:39 AM

Well I am out of the CRF250L waiting game, I just bought a used 08 WR250R for $3100.00 with 2700 miles on it. If they had put it out in the US quicker I would have gone for a new one. I will start a new thread with pics.

Weldangrind · 06-20-2012, 11:24 AM

The WR is a beautiful machine; congrats! I appreciate the tremendous power and torque, along with the lean-out device for starting. Good choice.

FastDoc · 06-20-2012, 11:59 AM

The WR also likely has a much better power to weight ratio and will likely be more off road oriented. 8)

SpudRider · 06-20-2012, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gloud

Well I am out of the CRF250L waiting game, I just bought a used 08 WR250R for $3100.00 with 2700 miles on it. If they had put it out in the US quicker I would have gone for a new one. I will start a new thread with pics.

You got a great deal on a great bike, Gloud!

I think you made a wise decision buying the lightly used WR250R for that price.

We eagerly await your thread, which I'm sure will contain many photographs.

Spud

06-09-2012, 12:46 AM	#166
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	Yamaha is adding fuel injection to the 2013 XT250 motorcycle. http://www.adventuresportrider.com/f...ad.php?p=50088 http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/pr...4/0/specs.aspx The Yamaha is still air cooled, with a decidedly inferior suspension to the other, 250cc, dual sport bikes. The 2013, Yamaha XT250 has an MSRP of $5,190. :roll: Therefore, the XT250 is priced $700 higher than the more powerful, water cooled CRF250L, which also has a much better suspension. Now, only Kawasaki has a 250cc, dual sport bike without fuel injection. How long will this continue, and how much will a fuel injected KLX250S cost? :?: Spud __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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06-09-2012, 05:30 PM	#167
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	The EU KLX's have been EFI since '09. Ironically they are detuned and the carburetted version makes more power! 8O They are made for the European noise and emmissions standards and a frequent mod for the European owners is to install a carburettor! Go figure. :roll: Apparantly the software is not easily modified. I really love my KLX but would have gladly given another $500 for a good performance oriented EFI. __________________ Happy to serve.
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06-09-2012, 08:05 PM	#168
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	Yes, I know the European KLX250S has fuel injection. My question is when will the North American KLX250S get fuel injection? :?: The following 250cc, dual sport bikes have fuel injection. Yamaha WR250R Yamaha XT250 Honda CRF250L Suzuki doesn't make a 250cc, dual sport bike. Therefore, the Kawasaki KLX250S is the only 250cc, dual sport bike in North America lacking fuel injection. It must be coming. Spud __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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06-09-2012, 09:33 PM	#169
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	I'm sure it's all about the money. Plus when the 2009 KLX came out only the MUCH more expensive WR had EFI. __________________ Happy to serve.
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06-10-2012, 01:03 PM	#172
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	The DR250 and TT-R250 are nice bikes, Pete. I don't know why the Japanese refuse to export them to North America. :roll: At least we are getting the new, CRF250L! Spud __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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06-10-2012, 06:24 AM	#170
gloud Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Westhampton Mass USA Posts: 155	Re: the euro efi KLX and lower HP you need to remember they have a tiered Licencing system by HP over there. (or they did) so they tend to be de-tuned to fit in the lower HP class sometimes.
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06-11-2012, 10:13 AM	#174
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	A manageable seat height and a 1/4 litre engine seem like the perfect around-town bike recipe. Maybe this new Honda will change the perspective of the other manufacturers. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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06-11-2012, 12:01 PM	#175
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	Honda seems to be shifting more and more of their production overseas. They have a new adventure bike, made in Thailand I believe, that also vastly undercuts the competition's price point. My Kawasaki KLX250S was also made in Thailand. __________________ Happy to serve.
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06-20-2012, 10:39 AM	#177
gloud Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Westhampton Mass USA Posts: 155	Well I am out of the CRF250L waiting game, I just bought a used 08 WR250R for $3100.00 with 2700 miles on it. If they had put it out in the US quicker I would have gone for a new one. I will start a new thread with pics.
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06-20-2012, 11:24 AM	#178
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	The WR is a beautiful machine; congrats! I appreciate the tremendous power and torque, along with the lean-out device for starting. Good choice. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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06-20-2012, 11:59 AM	#179
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	The WR also likely has a much better power to weight ratio and will likely be more off road oriented. 8) __________________ Happy to serve.
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