Hawk 250 or Tbr7?

[Schoolblack21]

[QUOTE=JerryHawk250;316203]I don't know if you looked at the Hawk 250 DXL? It is street legal, EFI, Digital cluster, Stainless steel exhaust and has the UDS forks. Does cost a little more but has quiet a few more upgrades from the Old Hawk. Note: pictures on this site are of the old Hawk except the first picture. https://q9powersportsusa.com/collect...rt-motorcycles

Here are the correct specs and pictures. https://www.rickypowersports.net/hawk-250-dlx-efi[/
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(Please don't take this as me being a smarta$$ or just an a$$ just my point of view)Thank you, I like the idea of the efi system on the newer bikes and the digital gauges and whatnot but what if that efi system goes out? I know the fellers on here would have fixes but im going into this bike as a toy I ride for fun on weekends and a commuter for my long and arduous 5 miles to work lol. I know carbs pretty well and I can break it down on the side of the road(rejet, clean, ect…). it may be a bit more expensive but I like tried and true methods and if I know its a 1300 dollar bike I can mod the mess out of it and not feel bad. but again thank you

[JerryHawk250]

Completely understand. Was just throwing out other options just in case. I like the simplicity of the Hawk or TBR7. Less to go wrong with them.

[Red Hawk]

Kinda off topic but who else wants to stuff a stainless exhaust on their Hawk? It looks like a direct fit, after plunging the o2 sensor hole.

[McFailbutter]

I have rode both bikes a bit, my tbr has a lil over a 1000 miles?/ Km on it. And put several hrs on onelegged's hawk. Tbr if your mostly on road. Hawk for off. Both are great bikes. Tinkered a lot on both. Come carb tuning time, I will note that tbr has shifted studs on the carb, making it easier to get the nuts on and off. But hopefully you never have to hank the carb as many times as I did.
Headlight is easier to adjust on hawk.
The other differences have all been mentioned by others.

[McFailbutter]

Shorter studs* on carb

[culcune]

Originally Posted by Schoolblack21

Thank you for taking the time for that, btw I watched some of your vids and I like that skid plate on your bike. But I think im gonna head down the ole tbr7 road just to keep the headache down to a minimum with the dmv.

The Hawk and its cousin are EPA certified as 'off-road dirtbikes'; have been for several years now. Many members got them street legal because many states plate bikes with a minimum of street equipment and/or the manufacturer's statement of origin states 'motorcycle' on it vs. 'dirtbike'. That was a few years ago. Now, some states have caught on and will no longer plate the Hawk. The Hawk DLX you discussed a bit with Jerryhawk is EPA/DOT certified for 49 states as street legal (Californians need not apply). Not suggesting you get a DLX as you already had your reasons for NOT getting one, but that is the difference internally with RPS who are the manufacturers/importers for both bikes.

The Taotao is certified as 49 state street EPA/DOT (sorry, California--we hate you!), so you will have no problem getting it registered. OK, you might have difficulties if you are the first to register it in your state, lol, as many members have found over the years being their state's Guinea pig depending on which newly released bike they were trying to register, but if you KNOW someone has already registered a TBR7, you should be good to go unless you get a knucklehead DMV employee

[JerryHawk250]

To add to what culcune said. If you go to one of the local notary/tag places they will go out there way to make sure you get it registered. They care because they want to make money. lol

[Blackhawk45]

Originally Posted by Schoolblack21

Thank you to everybody for helping me out. I live in northeast Arkansas and from what I have gathered the TBR7 Is a breeze to get through the dmv here. As I live in a small town and the speed limit isnt but 55 the max I need to go is 60 without the motor having a stroke on me. What is your opinions on sprocket combos if you don't mind?

The stock sprocket combo will do that, especially once you get it broken in and well tuned. I would suggest waiting til then to decide on which if any sprocket change is warranted. My Hawk, barely broken in and with no mods except a shimmed needle in the carb, will do 58 GPS-confirmed mph on the factory 15-50 sprocket set. 55 is no problem at all, and I like the fact that I can slow all the way down to 20 mph for a sharp curve or whatever, without even needing to downshift from high gear.

[Schoolblack21]

Originally Posted by culcune

The Hawk and its cousin are EPA certified as 'off-road dirtbikes'; have been for several years now. Many members got them street legal because many states plate bikes with a minimum of street equipment and/or the manufacturer's statement of origin states 'motorcycle' on it vs. 'dirtbike'. That was a few years ago. Now, some states have caught on and will no longer plate the Hawk. The Hawk DLX you discussed a bit with Jerryhawk is EPA/DOT certified for 49 states as street legal (Californians need not apply). Not suggesting you get a DLX as you already had your reasons for NOT getting one, but that is the difference internally with RPS who are the manufacturers/importers for both bikes.

The Taotao is certified as 49 state street EPA/DOT (sorry, California--we hate you!), so you will have no problem getting it registered. OK, you might have difficulties if you are the first to register it in your state, lol, as many members have found over the years being their state's Guinea pig depending on which newly released bike they were trying to register, but if you KNOW someone has already registered a TBR7, you should be good to go unless you get a knucklehead DMV employee

Well I think I have made a decision on the tbr7 and im gonna prebuy a mikuni 30mm carb, 17 tooth sprocket, oil cooler kit, (im gonna do like jerryhawk did and make a skid plate for that safety net), and the ebay "special" exhaust. I live in farm country so getting to 60 wont be a problem. And Im fairly certain my local dmv will look at me funny but will give me all certification with and without much headache lol

[Schoolblack21]

Before I forget what about the oil life, jerryhawk I know you have the oil cooler setup, but that's one thing that is not talked about to much. I might see about a inline oil filter setup in parallel with the oil cooler

[JerryHawk250]

Originally Posted by Schoolblack21

Before I forget what about the oil life, jerryhawk I know you have the oil cooler setup, but that's one thing that is not talked about to much. I might see about a inline oil filter setup in parallel with the oil cooler

The cooler greatly increases the oil life. My cooler has the relocated oil screen to catch large particles. Your engine has a centrifugal oil filter to catch all the fine stuff so an inline filter is not necessary. You really don't want to put anything in line to restrict the oil flow and put a burden on the oil pump. I cleaned the centrifugal oil filter after about 1500 miles. Wasn't much to clean out. I had milling shavings in the screen filter the first couple of oil changes.

[Blackhawk45]

Agreed. That oil centrifuge is way better than any filter.

[Schoolblack21]

Well fellers I ended up pulling the trigger lastnight and bought the roketa db-41hc, there hasn't been to many people to buy them but they look essentially the same to both the hawk and tbr7.

[JerryHawk250]

Yes that's the Bashan Enforcer. Another good bike. Congrats.

[JerryHawk250]

Originally Posted by jeffrey

The only thing I don't like about Bashan bikes is the lack of a kill switch. In stead of that you get four way flashers not very helpful with a stuck throttle or doing plug chops for carb tuning. Just my thoughts of it. Other than that I think Bashan bikes are good.

I forgot who it was on here but they converted that switch to a kill switch.