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Old 10-19-2011, 08:25 PM   #31
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o yes indeed, as i always say to my buddies - this bike should be more than good enough!

but yeah, we cannot get away with mockery... and that sometimes is not so good to get. :x


 
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Old 10-19-2011, 09:05 PM   #32
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I'm wondering if anyone knows the origin of this 150cc engine? Is this engine an original design by Zongshen, or is it a copy of another engine?

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Old 10-19-2011, 10:58 PM   #33
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I'm wondering if anyone knows the origin of this 150cc engine? Is this engine an original design by Zongshen, or is it a copy of another engine?

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this is something to check... my guess is that the engine is a copy of Honda's TMX155. Though not water cooled but chances are some parts can be compatible.
i'll have a chat with the disti's mechanic, i'll feedback soon...


 
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Old 10-20-2011, 06:40 PM   #34
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I'm wondering if anyone knows the origin of this 150cc engine? Is this engine an original design by Zongshen, or is it a copy of another engine?

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Good question, Spud!
It's an odd one, to be sure.
It's water-cooled....with different casework....but has a 'belly button' like a pushrod Hondanoid. It would be interesting to see the internals.........
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Old 10-20-2011, 10:44 PM   #35
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I'm really glad the engine in my Zongshen 200GY-2 is such a faithful copy of the Yamaha, TW200 engine. My Zong came complete with a service manual, but I always use the Yamaha, TW200 service manual, since it is more accurate, and much easier to read. :roll: I wouldn't want a bike that didn't have a good service manual available for it. I'm also pleased my Zong has complete parts compatibility with the Yamaha, TW200 engine. Therefore, I'm hoping this bike employs a faithful clone of a Japanese engine, and has a Japanese service manual available for it.

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Old 10-21-2011, 08:55 AM   #36
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I'm really glad the engine in my Zongshen 200GY-2 is such a faithful copy of the Yamaha, TW200 engine. My Zong came complete with a service manual, but I always use the Yamaha, TW200 service manual, since it is more accurate, and much easier to read. :roll: I wouldn't want a bike that didn't have a good service manual available for it. I'm also pleased my Zong has complete parts compatibility with the Yamaha, TW200 engine. Therefore, I'm hoping this bike employs a faithful clone of a Japanese engine, and has a Japanese service manual available for it.

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lucky SPUD.
actually, most chinese bikes here are patterned with small Honda bikes, the Honda XR 200 and TMX 155 standards...
though not really copy exact but most parts are useable...

uh btw, my chinese moatrd now wearing 18 and 21 knobies...
well i find it scary now, i feel like she has more now...



 
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Old 10-21-2011, 01:13 PM   #37
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I'm really glad the engine in my Zongshen 200GY-2 is such a faithful copy of the Yamaha, TW200 engine. My Zong came complete with a service manual, but I always use the Yamaha, TW200 service manual, since it is more accurate, and much easier to read. :roll: I wouldn't want a bike that didn't have a good service manual available for it. I'm also pleased my Zong has complete parts compatibility with the Yamaha, TW200 engine. Therefore, I'm hoping this bike employs a faithful clone of a Japanese engine, and has a Japanese service manual available for it.

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actually, most chinese bikes here are patterned with small Honda bikes, the Honda XR 200 and TMX 155 standards...
though not really copy exact but most parts are useable...
Yes, most Chinese motorcycles imported into the United States also employ copies of Chinese engines, Jeremy. However, there are exceptions. The 400cc, Xingyue motorcycles imported here employ an engine with a unique, Chinese design. :roll: Unfortunately, these 400cc, Xingyue engines are notoriously unreliable, and it is very difficult, if not impossible, for anyone in the United States to find parts, let alone a service manual for these engines. :(
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...uh btw, my chinese moatrd now wearing 18 and 21 knobies...
well i find it scary now, i feel like she has more now...
Congratulations! Your bike looks great with the larger wheels, and knobby tires! Yes, your bike will handle differently on the street with the new tires, but you will get used to the difference. However, when you go riding off road, your traction will increase dramatically with the knobby tires!

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Old 10-23-2011, 03:24 AM   #38
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thanks bud, it did prove something afer a 200km ride...
the bike proved its reliability...

'no gripes to have this kind...















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Old 10-23-2011, 11:07 AM   #39
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Terrific video! That must have taken a long time to edit. Thanks for sharing the awesome scenery with us.

I noticed that most of the signs in your video were in English, rather than Tagalog; is that common in your area?
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Old 10-23-2011, 11:50 AM   #40
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Terrific video! That must have taken a long time to edit. Thanks for sharing the awesome scenery with us.

I noticed that most of the signs in your video were in English, rather than Tagalog; is that common in your area?
thanks... actually it was longer in factor of 10 to upload an 79mb video, sigh!

yup, english is very much spoken here... even signs on the road are made standard in english - very practical for a small country that has more than a hundred dialects spoken (imagine a 7,000+ islands as one)...

'glad you liked it...


 
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Old 10-24-2011, 12:04 AM   #41
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thanks bud, it did prove something afer a 200km ride...
the bike proved its reliability...

'no gripes to have this kind...
I really appreciate the reliability of my Zongshen 200GY-2 motorcycle. I have ridden my Zong almost 42,000 miles, and I still enjoy it very much. I hope your Zongshen 150GY-10C proves to be as reliable as my Zongshen 200GY-2.

Thanks for posting the great video! I always enjoy viewing your great photographs; please keep posting them!.

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Old 10-24-2011, 12:06 AM   #42
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I bet you had an easier time riding in the mud with your new, knobby tires, than your friends.

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Old 10-24-2011, 01:15 AM   #43
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I bet you had an easier time riding in the mud with your new, knobby tires, than your friends.

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indeed SPUD!
thanks for your valuable inputs...

the techy uphill downhill we did was serious, if not for this new set of tires i'll definitely eat earth...


 
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Old 10-24-2011, 01:19 AM   #44
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I bet you had an easier time riding in the mud with your new, knobby tires, than your friends.

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indeed SPUD!
thanks for your valuable inputs...

the techy uphill downhill we did was serious, if not for this new set of tires i'll definitely eat earth...
I understand, Jeremy. I have "eaten earth" while riding my Zong on more than one occasion! The knobby tires are essential for good traction while riding off road.

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Old 10-24-2011, 04:26 AM   #45
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this is something to check... my guess is that the engine is a copy of Honda's TMX155...
Chinese pushrod 150 is based from Kymco 150 . http://picasaweb.google.com/iondogck/12502
Difference btw 125 & 150 http://translate.google.com/translat...horid%3D290040
That ZS engine had minor difference : blanced & water-cool
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Chinese CG175 had similar stroke to TMX155


 
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