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patrickzong · 04-10-2013, 02:28 PM

it does not have a place for the plate right now but i'll figure something out,
i REALLY like the headlight, im in the process of the lighting but have to wait for a day off to finish. I will continue posting to this thread and any mod's or repairs will be on the appropriate blog but also linked to this main blog.

patrickzong · 04-11-2013, 12:51 AM

tag light is on when brakes are off

brake light

I used the original tail light connector clip and found out what wire are what by trial and error
once i had the figured out I went to solder and wrap

this is getting real fun guys, thanks for all the help and support. nice to know there are great china riders out there.

SpudRider · 04-11-2013, 04:14 AM

That is a very nice tail light.

Thanks for sharing your project with us, fellow Zongite!

Spud

Weldangrind · 04-11-2013, 10:24 AM

That's really cool. 8)

So I understand, does the tail light have a separate lens underneath for lighting the tag? Do you have an eBay link for that fender?

patrickzong · 04-11-2013, 08:25 PM

this is the ebay link
http://www.ebay.com/itm/290803968757...84.m1439.l2649
it's from china and will take at the least 3 weeks to get to you
the tag light is another row of l.e.d.'s in the housing next to the red brake l.e.d.'s

as for the tag im still working something out, im in the process of selling my drums and getting an older cruising bike with a bigger motor.

my idea is to work out a series of metal rods and small dual mounted clamps to make a plate holder,i'll go to home depot after pay day and see if I can work something up.

the tail light can also be mounted underneath the bar where the original was, i just did mine on the top because my stock rear plastic isn't fitting at the moment.

SpudRider · 04-11-2013, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patrickzong

...my idea is to work out a series of metal rods and small dual mounted clamps to make a plate holder,i'll go to home depot after pay day and see if I can work something up.

the tail light can also be mounted underneath the bar where the original was, i just did mine on the top because my stock rear plastic isn't fitting at the moment.

Can you mount the license plate directly to the fender? If not, you can also go the local, trailer supply store, and buy a Webar 003201, license bracket for $1.99.

Spud

patrickzong · 04-18-2013, 02:21 PM

i need some help figuring out how to find a part
im looking for the top clamps for the handlebars but im not sure how many mm the handle bar is or if others would work.

SpudRider · 04-18-2013, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patrickzong

i need some help figuring out how to find a part
im looking for the top clamps for the handlebars but im not sure how many mm the handle bar is or if others would work.

The Zong has a standard, 7/8-inch handlebar. Therefore, I presume you could use any top clamps which fit a 7/8-inch handlebar. Also, you might be able to order handlebar clamps from either Zongshen America, or Taobao.

Spud

Weldangrind · 04-19-2013, 10:10 AM

Zong clamps from whatever source would be your best bet, since the center to center distance will be correct, as will the offset. The offset that is machined into the clamps is matched to the top triple tree, and it's important to install them the right way around.

SpudRider · 04-19-2013, 12:33 PM

I hope I didn't give you bad information, Patrick. I thought you were looking for only the very top part of the handlebar clamps. :roll:

Spud

SpudRider · 04-19-2013, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind

Zong clamps from whatever source would be your best bet, since the center to center distance will be correct, as will the offset. The offset that is machined into the clamps is matched to the top triple tree, and it's important to install them the right way around.

Please explain what you mean by "offset," Weld.

Spud

Weldangrind · 04-19-2013, 08:40 PM

Pehaps I should have said gap instead of offset. For the benefit of riders who may be new to the sport, the handlebar clamps are usually designed so that there will be a gap between the top clamp and the saddle.

The idea is to have no gap at the front of the clamp (what we'll call the headlight side) and a small gap at the rear (the rider side). Place a clamp on a table or other flat surface, and you'll see what I mean. On Yamahas, there is usually a punch mark that helps you to determine which way the clamps should sit, but our beloved China bikes don't have such a mark.

Once you've identified the long side, place it facing forward on the saddle, and torque it to around 20 ft/lbs. Once it's torqued, do the same for the short side (again, that faces the rider) and torque it as well.

Make sense?

SpudRider · 04-19-2013, 09:53 PM

Thank you for the posting the good information, Weld.

In your description, when you say "saddle," I assume you are describing the bottom portion of the handlebar clamp.

I have another question.

Shouldn't all the top clamps designed for 7/8" handlebars work for all 7/8" handlebars? :?:

Spud

Weldangrind · 04-20-2013, 12:29 PM

Ideally, but there's no standard for that. The clamps may be different heights, widths and lengths, and they may have dissimilar center-to-center bolt spacing, along with dissimilar rear gaps.

Most of the holes are bored to 7/8", but that's only part of the story.

patrickzong · 04-22-2013, 10:31 PM

I havn't moved onto any of that yet sadly, im still trying to find a manual to be able to replace my shifter pawl because I can only get into 2nd until it will not shift anymore. also having trouble finding the correct fuse used and get to fire it up but then the fuze goes.

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04-11-2013, 04:14 AM	#33
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	That is a very nice tail light. Thanks for sharing your project with us, fellow Zongite! Spud __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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04-11-2013, 10:24 AM	#34
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	That's really cool. 8) So I understand, does the tail light have a separate lens underneath for lighting the tag? Do you have an eBay link for that fender? __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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04-19-2013, 10:10 AM	#39
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Zong clamps from whatever source would be your best bet, since the center to center distance will be correct, as will the offset. The offset that is machined into the clamps is matched to the top triple tree, and it's important to install them the right way around. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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04-19-2013, 12:33 PM	#40
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	I hope I didn't give you bad information, Patrick. I thought you were looking for only the very top part of the handlebar clamps. :roll: Spud __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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04-10-2013, 02:28 PM	#31
patrickzong Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 44	it does not have a place for the plate right now but i'll figure something out, i REALLY like the headlight, im in the process of the lighting but have to wait for a day off to finish. I will continue posting to this thread and any mod's or repairs will be on the appropriate blog but also linked to this main blog.
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04-11-2013, 12:51 AM	#32
patrickzong Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 44	tag light is on when brakes are off brake light I used the original tail light connector clip and found out what wire are what by trial and error once i had the figured out I went to solder and wrap this is getting real fun guys, thanks for all the help and support. nice to know there are great china riders out there.
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04-11-2013, 08:25 PM	#35
patrickzong Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 44	this is the ebay link http://www.ebay.com/itm/290803968757...84.m1439.l2649 it's from china and will take at the least 3 weeks to get to you the tag light is another row of l.e.d.'s in the housing next to the red brake l.e.d.'s as for the tag im still working something out, im in the process of selling my drums and getting an older cruising bike with a bigger motor. my idea is to work out a series of metal rods and small dual mounted clamps to make a plate holder,i'll go to home depot after pay day and see if I can work something up. the tail light can also be mounted underneath the bar where the original was, i just did mine on the top because my stock rear plastic isn't fitting at the moment.
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04-18-2013, 02:21 PM	#37
patrickzong Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 44	i need some help figuring out how to find a part im looking for the top clamps for the handlebars but im not sure how many mm the handle bar is or if others would work.
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04-19-2013, 08:40 PM	#42
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Pehaps I should have said gap instead of offset. For the benefit of riders who may be new to the sport, the handlebar clamps are usually designed so that there will be a gap between the top clamp and the saddle. The idea is to have no gap at the front of the clamp (what we'll call the headlight side) and a small gap at the rear (the rider side). Place a clamp on a table or other flat surface, and you'll see what I mean. On Yamahas, there is usually a punch mark that helps you to determine which way the clamps should sit, but our beloved China bikes don't have such a mark. Once you've identified the long side, place it facing forward on the saddle, and torque it to around 20 ft/lbs. Once it's torqued, do the same for the short side (again, that faces the rider) and torque it as well. Make sense? __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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04-19-2013, 09:53 PM	#43
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	Thank you for the posting the good information, Weld. In your description, when you say "saddle," I assume you are describing the bottom portion of the handlebar clamp. I have another question. Shouldn't all the top clamps designed for 7/8" handlebars work for all 7/8" handlebars? :?: Spud __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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04-20-2013, 12:29 PM	#44
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Ideally, but there's no standard for that. The clamps may be different heights, widths and lengths, and they may have dissimilar center-to-center bolt spacing, along with dissimilar rear gaps. Most of the holes are bored to 7/8", but that's only part of the story. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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04-22-2013, 10:31 PM	#45
patrickzong Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 44	I havn't moved onto any of that yet sadly, im still trying to find a manual to be able to replace my shifter pawl because I can only get into 2nd until it will not shift anymore. also having trouble finding the correct fuse used and get to fire it up but then the fuze goes.
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