Templar X 250

[Thumper]

Originally Posted by AjjAxx84

Got the x running pretty good, at least it’s rideable until my jets come in. It has a youall pz30 with actual Phillips head screws instead of breakaways so that’s a plus.

These Chinese bikes can be variable in build. Like, I did not get the passenger footpegs, but they are in the video that raptssan posted I'd like to have those. And my smoothbore YouALL had breakaways, and I had to drill one out when my ground out flathead slot failed. I sealed up the float bowl, no problem. But NICE Carb

I think I am building up some carbon on the plug. Just a tad rich. But it likes choke to start, so it isn't the pilot. I think it is the 1mm shim or modest main jet increase causing this.

I need to eliminate the cat, so maybe will leave it slightly rich for now. Runs great throughout throttle/rpm range.

Here is a pic from this morning's activities. I set the feeler gauge in place, snugged up the adjustment, pulled the gauge out, and found that it is ONLY ~1/8th turn to 0.002" OK fine. I think that you can set these things by 1/8th turn instead of dealing with the deepset gap in these heads with limited access ports!

I set intake 0.002" and exhaust 0.0025". The Intake valve is harder to access, but I found my previous settings held stable. Nice motor

[AjjAxx84]

I sent a parts request for the rear foot pegs. PSM said they will send me an invoice to pay on Monday and will ship the pegs. I’ll let you know the cost tomorrow.

[Huck369]

Originally Posted by Okierider

Tell me you’re a machinist without telling me you’re a machinist lol

... Nope, I'm a Draftsman at a Steel Fabrication Shop, So I draw up stuff, and the guys in the shop build it....

[Okierider]

Originally Posted by Huck369

... Nope, I'm a Draftsman at a Steel Fabrication Shop, So I draw up stuff, and the guys in the shop build it....

Machine-adjacent then lol.
That’s an awesome skill to have.

[kcdano2022]

Originally Posted by Thumper

PsportsMax emailed me and told me I had to call to order. Then they called me! Something about my address not matching the credit card. So I cancelled the order for now. I am still trying to sell my road bike, and could use the cash. Or at least wait until payday next month.

But I am still on the fence about the GPX TSE250R. A 35+ hp 2 stroke on a light alloy frame with brembo clone brakes really sounds appealing. I know, I know, over $5000! But what a bike.

Still haven't made up my mind.

Oh, and the ticks are coming out already in Kansas City area! Crap! Pulled one off my shoulder after a jaunt through some mucky overgrown woods on the Storm. It was a wet and cold Spring, and all of a sudden, Hot Summer.

I am in Kansas City also up North by Zona Rosa.

[AjjAxx84]

Does anyone know what size spanner wrenches to adjust rear shock?

[AjjAxx84]

Originally Posted by AjjAxx84

Does anyone know what size spanner wrenches to adjust rear shock?

Motion Pro 08-0029 Shock Spanner Wrench
In case anyone needs one

[AjjAxx84]

The youall carb came factory jetted 117 main 40 pilot. I’m 1317 ft above sea level so I dropped the pilot down to 38 and the bike is running pretty good.

[AjjAxx84]

PSM has the x’s back in stock and they have the pr250 counterbalanced engine in them

[Raptssan]

The templar X and templar M are back in stock on the Powersportsmax website. I ordered the X this morning in Orange.

AjjAxx84,
I should have refreshed my screen. I didnt see that you had posted. I also see that they are coming with a counterbalanced engine. Did the X not have that before?

[AjjAxx84]

Originally Posted by Raptssan

The templar X and templar M are back in stock on the Powersportsmax website. I ordered the X this morning in Orange.

AjjAxx84,
I should have refreshed my screen. I didnt see that you had posted. I also see that they are coming with a counterbalanced engine. Did the X not have that before?

No it did not

[Thumper]

Just noticed. Same price I paid. Nice.
You will love the bike. I just did valves to spec and it is so smooth and responsive? Awesome Enduro, streetable.

I thought the ZS172FMM-5 version was a 6speed. Isn't it the one going into the new LifanKPX 250?

I may have to buy one of these and sell mine!!

[Thumper]

Update. ZS172FMM-5 does have a 6 speed transmission.
This image is in the photos for the NEW Templar X
It also has the rear footpegs.

[XLsior]

Not sure if I would trust a sticker as confirmation of a 6th gear.

But it appears the refresh (PR250) does appear to be a 6speed with counterbalance...there are also reports that they make less power than the vanilla ZS172FMM. parasitic loss from the balance shaft perhaps...based on dyno results.

Also it appears Zongshen made a ZS172FMM-6 with a 4 valve head. But licennsing looks to have locked it behind a obscure company Bosuer(BSE) bikes.

Not sure how accurate any of this information is as I am just relaying info from the thumper talk forums

[Thumper]

Originally Posted by XLsior

Not sure if I would trust a sticker as confirmation of a 6th gear.

Call them and ask. They just didn't update the text in the post. The ZS172FMM-5 is a 6 speed engine. That's why I looked, and sure enough, they've added the new gear shift sticker showing the 6 speed transmission.

I could buy one and sell mine. Might. I might also just buy a ZS172FMM-5 engine, do a head porting job on it, maybe find a 270cc bore kit for it, and swap it into my Templar X. My X is paid for, insured and registered for initial 2 years, and it's great as it is. A 6 speed "300cc project motor" based on the -5 would bolt right in.

I think the 6 speed version will show up on ebay sometime soon. I might call the Carrollton, TX sellers that have the -3A and see if they can order -5 engines. I can wait. I sent Xpro an email and asked about the -5