do we have any knowledge of the 450cc bikes - Page 4

Weldangrind · 01-11-2013, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by recracer

Alibaba will not let pictures be copied , this link has clear veiw of the tensioner and adjustments on the forks http://kinbo.en.alibaba.com/product/...er_cooled.html

You can probably copy the pics if you try another browser. That's similar to a trick I learned about internet voting to win motorcycles.

SpudRider · 01-11-2013, 01:31 AM

The Shineray X5 engine appears to be a fairly close copy of the XR400R engine, with an electric starter!

I started a new thread on the Shineray X5.

http://chinariders.net/modules.php?n...=162754#162754

Spud

SpudRider · 01-11-2013, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Weldangrind

Quote:

Originally Posted by recracer

Alibaba will not let pictures be copied , this link has clear veiw of the tensioner and adjustments on the forks http://kinbo.en.alibaba.com/product/...er_cooled.html

You can probably copy the pics if you try another browser. That's similar to a trick I learned about internet voting to win motorcycles.

Spud

recracer · 01-12-2013, 01:36 AM

recracer · 02-03-2013, 11:41 AM

http://hellforleathermagazine.com/20...ed-dual-sport/ I just found this link about these bikes

Weldangrind · 02-03-2013, 07:46 PM

I like their products so far, and I hope this isn't one of the Rotax / Honda hybrids.

FastDoc · 02-04-2013, 12:05 AM

That does not look like the Rotax hybrid clunker engine to me.

On the other hand, $6,000!!!!!!! 8O 8O 8O

That's like a new DRZ or a nearly new KTM!!!!

SpudRider · 02-04-2013, 02:15 AM

I agree with FastDoc.

These vendors are charging way too much for Chinese motorcycles! 8O

Spud

recracer · 02-04-2013, 12:41 PM

It looks so much like a honda 450 clone . If it has complete parts interchange . 5000 mite be worth it .

FastDoc · 02-04-2013, 12:54 PM

Current list price DRZ400: $6,199.

Usual sale price in my area $5,750.

5,750 X 65%= $3,737.

The most I would recommend paying for a totally unknown bike with unknown and unlikely support unseen would be $3,737 and that would be a heck of a stretch. The most I would recommend would be maybe $3,000.

And for that same $3,000 a guy could find a nice clean 5 year old DRZ.

I am NOT BASHING Chinabikes here, just pointing out some economic realities.

recracer · 02-05-2013, 02:16 AM

All Good points Doc . The other usa imported chinese 450s likely the same But awd http://www.christini.com/bikes/christini-awd-450 http://www.othermakes.net/2011/02/19...ured-in-china/

FastDoc · 02-05-2013, 01:12 PM

I like CB's don't get me wrong. They can be fun, effective, decent quality, affordable bikes. But until they can rival Suzuki's dealer network, parts and aftermarket support, quality, and performance, they do no merit the same price.

That's where I came up with the formula used above.

recracer · 02-05-2013, 01:55 PM

completely understood Doc . I have to fight my urge to buy things that should not be so good ,that i can play with to make better

FastDoc · 02-05-2013, 02:32 PM

You did a great job on that beautiful bike. 8)

The 200cc OHC/OHV Hondoids are good investments and make excellent project starting points.

A 400+cc $6,000 bike is a different matter entirely. :wink:

01-11-2013, 01:31 AM	#47
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	The Shineray X5 engine appears to be a fairly close copy of the XR400R engine, with an electric starter! I started a new thread on the Shineray X5. http://chinariders.net/modules.php?n...=162754#162754 Spud __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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02-03-2013, 07:46 PM	#51
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	I like their products so far, and I hope this isn't one of the Rotax / Honda hybrids. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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02-04-2013, 12:05 AM	#52
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	That does not look like the Rotax hybrid clunker engine to me. On the other hand, $6,000!!!!!!! 8O 8O 8O That's like a new DRZ or a nearly new KTM!!!! __________________ Happy to serve.
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02-04-2013, 02:15 AM	#53
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	I agree with FastDoc. These vendors are charging way too much for Chinese motorcycles! 8O Spud __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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02-04-2013, 12:54 PM	#55
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	Current list price DRZ400: $6,199. Usual sale price in my area $5,750. 5,750 X 65%= $3,737. The most I would recommend paying for a totally unknown bike with unknown and unlikely support unseen would be $3,737 and that would be a heck of a stretch. The most I would recommend would be maybe $3,000. And for that same $3,000 a guy could find a nice clean 5 year old DRZ. I am NOT BASHING Chinabikes here, just pointing out some economic realities. __________________ Happy to serve.
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01-12-2013, 01:36 AM	#49
recracer Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Charles Town W.V. Posts: 849
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02-03-2013, 11:41 AM	#50
recracer Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Charles Town W.V. Posts: 849	http://hellforleathermagazine.com/20...ed-dual-sport/ I just found this link about these bikes
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02-04-2013, 12:41 PM	#54
recracer Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Charles Town W.V. Posts: 849	It looks so much like a honda 450 clone . If it has complete parts interchange . 5000 mite be worth it .
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02-05-2013, 02:16 AM	#56
recracer Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Charles Town W.V. Posts: 849	All Good points Doc . The other usa imported chinese 450s likely the same But awd http://www.christini.com/bikes/christini-awd-450 http://www.othermakes.net/2011/02/19...ured-in-china/
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02-05-2013, 01:12 PM	#57
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	I like CB's don't get me wrong. They can be fun, effective, decent quality, affordable bikes. But until they can rival Suzuki's dealer network, parts and aftermarket support, quality, and performance, they do no merit the same price. That's where I came up with the formula used above. __________________ Happy to serve.
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02-05-2013, 01:55 PM	#58
recracer Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Charles Town W.V. Posts: 849	completely understood Doc . I have to fight my urge to buy things that should not be so good ,that i can play with to make better
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02-05-2013, 02:32 PM	#59
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	You did a great job on that beautiful bike. 8) The 200cc OHC/OHV Hondoids are good investments and make excellent project starting points. A 400+cc $6,000 bike is a different matter entirely. :wink: __________________ Happy to serve.
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