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09-28-2016, 10:58 AM | #46 | |
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09-28-2016, 11:13 AM | #48 | |
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So why would you want to "take down" as you put it CSC there good guys. And if your gov will reg and plate our bikes whats the problem? My Sheriff inspected my bike and he says it legal I have the plate to prove it! ALL the states say the TT250 is legal. In all the world only YOU say there not legal? Your having no problem with the legality of your bike. No one is taking you to court for running a illegal bike sooooooo why are you doing this? Iam not joking when I ask do you work for a jap bike dealer? I dont get some people. I just wish I had a bike I could ride. You have a fine one and you dont ride it because of stuff you've made up in your own head?! Man what a world!! |
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09-28-2016, 11:25 AM | #49 | |
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PS Iam sure once I rebuild all of this bike it will be a good bike. |
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09-28-2016, 06:51 PM | #50 | |
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Had CSC initiated with trying to make the bike legal or talking to me about solving the issue instead of lying and telling me it was legal we wouldn't be here. The fact that they issued stickers clearly showed they knew they weren't legal. Those stickers don't make the bike legal, they just make the bike look closer to legal; still not solving the problem. The issuing of those labels may be a crime itself. They keep arguing that the bike is legal and basically saying I'm wrong, but having a lawsuit looming made them offer a refund which tells me they're probably not as ignorant as they're pretending to be and know that it's an illegal bike. If they decide to have this go in front of a judge I guess we'll see what happens. If the judge decides that the written law doesn't apply for some reason and that the bike is legal I'll have a document to somewhat cover myself with, if he rules against CSC who knows what else might happen. Just so you understand, the federal and state laws both require that the bike frame and muffler be labeled by the manufacturer at the time of manufacture and that the labeling has to be something permanent that can't be removed without destruction. It's a one-two punch against the bikes. The stuff written on the stickers is another point that's shaky, but they might meet that part of the requirements. Everyone else ignoring the law doesn't make everyone else right and me wrong. People are being pissy with me for having discovered it and pressing the issue, ok I get it. Ignorance is bliss and I often wish I could be blessed with it. And no, I don't work for any dealer, bike seller, or anything else related to the motorcycle industry. If someone in the industry wanted to use this to shut down the Chinese import competition it could be a quick way to do it. |
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09-28-2016, 06:58 PM | #51 | |
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09-28-2016, 07:18 PM | #52 | |
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Must be a curse to be so smart that to the common person you just sound like you are talking jibber jabber. Be sure and give a big long response to this reply about how gracefull you was to CSC and how sorry you are to the simple minded people on every China bike out there. I know it must be hard for you to see all the world's problems and have to fix them You must be anal or is it anus I don't know I am sooooooooo stupid
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09-28-2016, 07:37 PM | #53 |
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California is run by the trial lawyers association, but behind the scenes. I read a recent article about a lawyer in the Bay Area who goes to small businesses, uses their restroom, and if mirrors, sinks, and signage are not to some exact standards, he sues the business under some law the trial lawyers could think up (with the help of the ADA). The shakedowns, er, settlements, are several thousand apiece, and the article was saying how this guy, and a couple others, were using the loophole. And, we are talking like an inch or 1/2 inch where a sign was off, not like a urinal was ignorantly installed and not usable by a short person--that is why the article was published (maybe even a liberal newspaper like the L.A. Times) because of how people (in California, obviously) could try to twist some law, and some do, to create a lawsuit.
I am interested to see if this lawsuit prevails, and how Californians will no longer have a CSC bike to purchase. Not every lawsuit is successful, thank goodness, and lets hope this one isn't, and that CSC has expensive lawyers they had to hire to defend themselves that need to be paid from the losing party...
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09-28-2016, 07:56 PM | #54 | |
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I also couldn't find this federal or state law anywhere other than this little bit on the USFS website: http://www.fs.fed.us/eng/pubs/html/0...7/03511307.htm The entire page seems to mostly address OHV's and not street legal bikes, even though there is a breif mention of what a dual-sport motorcycle is. Even then, it states that even though a muffler might have a stamp, it does not guarantee that it is tested and compliant. The document clearly states that a rod is to be used to feel for the spark arrester. Seems pretty cut and dry to me. |
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Thanks man. I knew I'd probably get shit around here which is part of why I hadn't posted anything about suing them. I guess I shoulda just not answered to the questions of why I was suing, but I didn't want people thinking CSC had wronged me as far as the normal parts/warrantee type stuff like you got from that other seller.
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