Bashan Storm 250 Build - Page 7

BARLOW · 03-31-2016, 09:06 PM

well, i changed the needle down ... bad ... back to center ... bad .... that let me know for sure that the air box was needed for vacuum to move the fuel ... hooked it back up, raised the needle back up with air box hooked up ... now i can hold 55 at just under wot ... guess next thing to try, is exhaust work ... ill try getting the baffle out, then try getting the cat out ... if i cant get the cat out, ill try the new pipe

BlackBike · 03-31-2016, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BARLOW

well, i changed the needle down ... bad ... back to center ... bad .... that let me know for sure that the air box was needed for vacuum to move the fuel ... hooked it back up, raised the needle back up with air box hooked up ... now i can hold 55 at just under wot ... guess next thing to try, is exhaust work ... ill try getting the baffle out, then try getting the cat out ... if i cant get the cat out, ill try the new pipe

hey b, do they exhaust test up there or are you out of the jurisdiction. i believe in Harris county Houston TX it's part of the inspection. good info on the air box comment. thanks.

BARLOW · 03-31-2016, 10:12 PM

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hey b, do they exhaust test up there or are you out of the jurisdiction. i believe in Harris county Houston TX it's part of the inspection. good info on the air box comment. thanks.

i live in illinois, no testing, but it is $101/year for car plates here ... think $40 for a bike ... thinking i may need to go up another jet size as well, but ill try exhaust stuff first

BARLOW · 04-01-2016, 02:25 PM

well, the first try at busting out the cat was a huge fail ... fail #2 was trying to take out the factory baffle, it seems to be welded in and i just do not seem to be able to locate a slip on that will even get close to matching the angle that the factory muffler has on it ... it drops about 4" at about 45 degrees before it goes into the pipe (also all welded) ... it did sound quite good with just the header, but i thought the wife and/or the neighbors may kill me, seeing as how i leave for work at 10:40pm and get home at 7:45am ...

... thinking maybe if i can find a long spring from an old storm door, i may be able to get something on the end that will cut into that cat ... but i am also going to look into getting a header made that will make it easier to get a slip on to fit how i want it to under the stock side panel

Ron B · 04-01-2016, 04:56 PM

I wound up taking my plasma cutter ,making a door and digging it out. then folded the door back over and welding it up.

SpudRider · 04-01-2016, 05:38 PM

Good work, Ron.

dossbag · 04-02-2016, 04:54 PM

Lmao

lmg1974 · 04-08-2016, 09:06 PM

I just noticed barlow... you said a vm26 carb... isnt that a 26mm carb... that would probably be fantastic on 200gy...but your on a 250cc class ( well 229cc...but still larger engine...) top end may need to breath more... maybe a vm28 or trusty vm30 ? that vm26 is running about the biggest jets it can... perhaps its just leaning out? Im no china bike expert, but I been turning wrenches for almost 30 years... learned a thing or two... lean likes down low.. rich likes top end... i think you may gain more top end by going to a 30mm carb, but the trade off may be a few mpgs... just saying...

BARLOW · 04-09-2016, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by lmg1974

I just noticed barlow... you said a vm26 carb... isnt that a 26mm carb... that would probably be fantastic on 200gy...but your on a 250cc class ( well 229cc...but still larger engine...) top end may need to breath more... maybe a vm28 or trusty vm30 ? that vm26 is running about the biggest jets it can... perhaps its just leaning out? Im no china bike expert, but I been turning wrenches for almost 30 years... learned a thing or two... lean likes down low.. rich likes top end... i think you may gain more top end by going to a 30mm carb, but the trade off may be a few mpgs... just saying...

it says 30mm, but i think it is only 28 at intake, i guess i should have looked at other stores before i got one, the wife will not be happy at all when i get another one ... lol ... do you know for sure if the vm30 will bolt directly to the intake?

EDIT:looking at ebay, the vm30 will need a new intake, and they all say 30mm (vm26, vm28, vm30) so now i am not sure what to do, lol ... think i am going to take the dremel to the factory carb and see if i can open it up to just short of the slide size, i do not need it any more, so no loss when i mess it up

2LZ · 04-09-2016, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BARLOW

it says 30mm, but i think it is only 28 at intake, i guess i should have looked at other stores before i got one, the wife will not be happy at all when i get another one ... lol ... do you know for sure if the vm30 will bolt directly to the intake?

EDIT:looking at ebay, the vm30 will need a new intake, and they all say 30mm (vm26, vm28, vm30) so now i am not sure what to do, lol ... think i am going to take the dremel to the factory carb and see if i can open it up to just short of the slide size, i do not need it any more, so no loss when i mess it up

This is the one I got for my 167FMM (229) in my Rhino. Works great. 115 main/30 pilot, clip on the fourth notch, idle mixture at about 2 turns out.

http://www.amazon.com/MIKUNI-VM26-Ca...ilpage_o05_s00

BARLOW · 04-09-2016, 01:20 PM

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This is the one I got for my 167FMM (229) in my Rhino. Works great. 115 main/30 pilot, clip on the fourth notch, idle mixture at about 2 turns out.

http://www.amazon.com/MIKUNI-VM26-Ca...ilpage_o05_s00

same 1 i have, only i have 40/115 jets ... 1 1/2 turns out and clip 1 notch down from center (4th i think) ... i am going out to check valves again, maybe they need adjusted again ... then i am going to play with the factory carb, see if i can port it a little closer to the size of the slide with the dremel ... if i mess it up, it is no loss ... i am thinking of opening just the top a bit for wot use ... i dont know what jets are in it, but i know they are small, maybe one of the other sets i have will fit it

lmg1974 · 04-09-2016, 08:48 PM

also check your jetting.... 40/115 sounds very rich.... you getting any black smoke when you goose it ? or is it just kinda hitting 55 and nothing left? Gotta jet for elevation... i think jets r us has a jetting calculator for free on thier site... just tell them you have a honda dirtbike or some nonsense.. .should get you close... youre in illinois not denver so... gant be too high over sea level....

just trying to help brother
good luck!!!!

wynterknight · 04-13-2016, 11:45 PM

At 65, I'm looking forward to getting a Storm, my first new bike in 30+ years!

Weldangrind · 04-14-2016, 12:45 AM

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At 65, I'm looking forward to getting a Storm, my first new bike in 30+ years!

Excellent! Thanks for joining us.

SpudRider · 04-14-2016, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by wynterknight

At 65, I'm looking forward to getting a Storm, my first new bike in 30+ years!

Good for you.

We are glad you joined us.

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wynterknight Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 4	Thank you! At 65, I'm looking forward to getting a Storm, my first new bike in 30+ years!
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03-31-2016, 09:06 PM	#91
BARLOW Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: central illinois Posts: 362	well, i changed the needle down ... bad ... back to center ... bad .... that let me know for sure that the air box was needed for vacuum to move the fuel ... hooked it back up, raised the needle back up with air box hooked up ... now i can hold 55 at just under wot ... guess next thing to try, is exhaust work ... ill try getting the baffle out, then try getting the cat out ... if i cant get the cat out, ill try the new pipe
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04-01-2016, 02:25 PM	#94
BARLOW Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: central illinois Posts: 362	well, the first try at busting out the cat was a huge fail ... fail #2 was trying to take out the factory baffle, it seems to be welded in and i just do not seem to be able to locate a slip on that will even get close to matching the angle that the factory muffler has on it ... it drops about 4" at about 45 degrees before it goes into the pipe (also all welded) ... it did sound quite good with just the header, but i thought the wife and/or the neighbors may kill me, seeing as how i leave for work at 10:40pm and get home at 7:45am ... ... thinking maybe if i can find a long spring from an old storm door, i may be able to get something on the end that will cut into that cat ... but i am also going to look into getting a header made that will make it easier to get a slip on to fit how i want it to under the stock side panel
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04-08-2016, 09:06 PM	#98
lmg1974 Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 49	I just noticed barlow... you said a vm26 carb... isnt that a 26mm carb... that would probably be fantastic on 200gy...but your on a 250cc class ( well 229cc...but still larger engine...) top end may need to breath more... maybe a vm28 or trusty vm30 ? that vm26 is running about the biggest jets it can... perhaps its just leaning out? Im no china bike expert, but I been turning wrenches for almost 30 years... learned a thing or two... lean likes down low.. rich likes top end... i think you may gain more top end by going to a 30mm carb, but the trade off may be a few mpgs... just saying...
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04-09-2016, 08:48 PM	#102
lmg1974 Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 49	also check your jetting.... 40/115 sounds very rich.... you getting any black smoke when you goose it ? or is it just kinda hitting 55 and nothing left? Gotta jet for elevation... i think jets r us has a jetting calculator for free on thier site... just tell them you have a honda dirtbike or some nonsense.. .should get you close... youre in illinois not denver so... gant be too high over sea level.... just trying to help brother good luck!!!!
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