Dune buggy project - Page 7

Wild_Alaskan · 07-06-2013, 08:57 PM

More progress! Its gotten rainy here again so I have been spending more time in the shop instead of going riding for my spare time. I got my rack and pinion mounted, tie rods created and steering shaft set up for the most part. one of the rear a-arms are nearly completed, part of the rear cage is installed

Weldangrind · 07-07-2013, 12:58 AM

What is the rack out of?

Wild_Alaskan · 07-07-2013, 02:13 AM

this is the rack i have in it, a perfect spread end load rack and pinion. Got it lined up just right and there is no detectable bump steer to the naked eye and the steering setup is extremely tight, no slop at all

http://www.ebay.com/itm/290438881075...84.m1423.l2649

SpudRider · 07-07-2013, 05:06 AM

Nice work, and good progress.

katoranger · 07-07-2013, 02:53 PM

Will this be finished this summer or you going to make us wait a whole winter for updates.

Wild_Alaskan · 07-07-2013, 04:04 PM

I will be in alaska until november so it should be done before i go back. Today i think i am going to work on testing the engine

Weldangrind · 07-07-2013, 05:04 PM

Bumpsteer was going to be my next question.

That's a cool rack. What kind of bushings do you plan to use between the rack ends and the tie rods?

Wild_Alaskan · 07-07-2013, 06:55 PM

It is an end load rack and pinion so the ends do not pivot they are designed to take all the load internally.

Wild_Alaskan · 07-07-2013, 11:06 PM

I think I misunderstood your question, there will be heim joints at each end of the rack, and the stock honda ball joints at the hub

Weldangrind · 07-07-2013, 11:07 PM

The tie rods still must articulate up and down as the control arms move; they have to pivot at the rack. Are you just using rod ends for that?

Wild_Alaskan · 07-07-2013, 11:16 PM

yes

Weldangrind · 07-07-2013, 11:29 PM

Have you considered using poly bushings to take some of the shock? I just installed some two-piece poly bushings on Mrs. Weldangrind's '01 Intrepid, and they're nicely made Napa units (the original bushings were rubber and wasted in 75000 miles). Perhaps you'd benefit from some DOM tube to support two piece poly bushings slathered in moly grease. The bushings I bought were dirt cheap and easy to get.

Wild_Alaskan · 07-08-2013, 12:08 AM

I cant imagine having too much shock issues, the other buggy Ive driven was relatively unaffected by impacts and pot holes. im sure the low pressure atv tires have a lot to do with it.

Wild_Alaskan · 07-14-2013, 09:13 PM

Got the cooling system plumed, and started on the rear shock mounts,

Made a couple adjustments and the total travel in the rear will be 17.5 inches at the wheel and the shock completely bottomed out.

Weldangrind · 07-15-2013, 12:28 AM

The rad looks safe up there. I'm looking forward to seeing the suspension completed.

07-06-2013, 08:57 PM	#91
Wild_Alaskan Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Alaska Posts: 914	More progress! Its gotten rainy here again so I have been spending more time in the shop instead of going riding for my spare time. I got my rack and pinion mounted, tie rods created and steering shaft set up for the most part. one of the rear a-arms are nearly completed, part of the rear cage is installed __________________ Dune buggy build http://chinariders.net/modules.php?n...wtopic&t=14470 400cc lifan build vid: http://youtu.be/20HoU8OK_Y0 other fun: http://tinyurl.com/wildalaskan
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07-07-2013, 12:58 AM	#92
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	What is the rack out of? __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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07-07-2013, 02:13 AM	#93
Wild_Alaskan Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Alaska Posts: 914	this is the rack i have in it, a perfect spread end load rack and pinion. Got it lined up just right and there is no detectable bump steer to the naked eye and the steering setup is extremely tight, no slop at all http://www.ebay.com/itm/290438881075...84.m1423.l2649 __________________ Dune buggy build http://chinariders.net/modules.php?n...wtopic&t=14470 400cc lifan build vid: http://youtu.be/20HoU8OK_Y0 other fun: http://tinyurl.com/wildalaskan
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07-07-2013, 05:06 AM	#94
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	Nice work, and good progress. __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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07-07-2013, 02:53 PM	#95
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	Will this be finished this summer or you going to make us wait a whole winter for updates. __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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07-07-2013, 04:04 PM	#96
Wild_Alaskan Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Alaska Posts: 914	I will be in alaska until november so it should be done before i go back. Today i think i am going to work on testing the engine __________________ Dune buggy build http://chinariders.net/modules.php?n...wtopic&t=14470 400cc lifan build vid: http://youtu.be/20HoU8OK_Y0 other fun: http://tinyurl.com/wildalaskan Last edited by Wild_Alaskan; 07-07-2013 at 11:07 PM.
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07-07-2013, 05:04 PM	#97
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Bumpsteer was going to be my next question. That's a cool rack. What kind of bushings do you plan to use between the rack ends and the tie rods? __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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07-07-2013, 06:55 PM	#98
Wild_Alaskan Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Alaska Posts: 914	It is an end load rack and pinion so the ends do not pivot they are designed to take all the load internally. __________________ Dune buggy build http://chinariders.net/modules.php?n...wtopic&t=14470 400cc lifan build vid: http://youtu.be/20HoU8OK_Y0 other fun: http://tinyurl.com/wildalaskan
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07-07-2013, 11:06 PM	#99
Wild_Alaskan Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Alaska Posts: 914	I think I misunderstood your question, there will be heim joints at each end of the rack, and the stock honda ball joints at the hub __________________ Dune buggy build http://chinariders.net/modules.php?n...wtopic&t=14470 400cc lifan build vid: http://youtu.be/20HoU8OK_Y0 other fun: http://tinyurl.com/wildalaskan
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07-07-2013, 11:07 PM	#100
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	The tie rods still must articulate up and down as the control arms move; they have to pivot at the rack. Are you just using rod ends for that? __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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07-07-2013, 11:16 PM	#101
Wild_Alaskan Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Alaska Posts: 914	yes __________________ Dune buggy build http://chinariders.net/modules.php?n...wtopic&t=14470 400cc lifan build vid: http://youtu.be/20HoU8OK_Y0 other fun: http://tinyurl.com/wildalaskan
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07-07-2013, 11:29 PM	#102
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Have you considered using poly bushings to take some of the shock? I just installed some two-piece poly bushings on Mrs. Weldangrind's '01 Intrepid, and they're nicely made Napa units (the original bushings were rubber and wasted in 75000 miles). Perhaps you'd benefit from some DOM tube to support two piece poly bushings slathered in moly grease. The bushings I bought were dirt cheap and easy to get. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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07-08-2013, 12:08 AM	#103
Wild_Alaskan Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Alaska Posts: 914	I cant imagine having too much shock issues, the other buggy Ive driven was relatively unaffected by impacts and pot holes. im sure the low pressure atv tires have a lot to do with it. __________________ Dune buggy build http://chinariders.net/modules.php?n...wtopic&t=14470 400cc lifan build vid: http://youtu.be/20HoU8OK_Y0 other fun: http://tinyurl.com/wildalaskan Last edited by Wild_Alaskan; 07-08-2013 at 01:17 AM.
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07-14-2013, 09:13 PM	#104
Wild_Alaskan Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Alaska Posts: 914	Got the cooling system plumed, and started on the rear shock mounts, Made a couple adjustments and the total travel in the rear will be 17.5 inches at the wheel and the shock completely bottomed out. __________________ Dune buggy build http://chinariders.net/modules.php?n...wtopic&t=14470 400cc lifan build vid: http://youtu.be/20HoU8OK_Y0 other fun: http://tinyurl.com/wildalaskan
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07-15-2013, 12:28 AM	#105
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	The rad looks safe up there. I'm looking forward to seeing the suspension completed. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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