Looking for a distributor for U.S

BDIAgencies · 09-04-2009, 10:10 AM

Saga Canada is looking for a distributor to carry our DOT/Street legal 250cc Enduro. If you are interested in becoming a distributor please leave me your contact information and I will get back to you with all the details.

Thank you for your interest..

Saga Canada
www.sagacanada.ca

TheRealWorld · 09-13-2009, 09:00 PM

I think you should tell us more so we know if we want to inquire!

Jim · 09-13-2009, 11:18 PM

Wouldn't the costs associated with dealing with China through Canada just make the final costs too high?

BDIAgencies · 09-14-2009, 07:34 AM

I will send you a pm TRW on the program.

BDIAgencies · 09-14-2009, 09:14 AM

Jim..

Not at all, in fact we absorb the up front costs in getting started with a manufacturer. There is alot of cost that people don't realize that happens behind the scenes when bringing a product over to N/A and the costs of the DOT,Transport Canada and MIAC accreditation for the NVIS. In being in business for over 4 years and having over 50+ dealers in Canada we are on the rise in distributing a quality bike/scooter at a reasonable price. No other chinese importer has spent the time or money in getting there brand of Dual Sport DOT approved. Konker followed with there 200 motard bike...Lifan doesn't,ZStar doesn't Daymak doesn't even Pitster Pro's 250 doesn't......they are all registered as "Offroad" because they know they wouldn't pass the testing.

Jim...there is a huge concern in the US in regard to parts. Most importers only carry the 1% that they are given when they order there containers..not one dime is spent in parts. We have over $500,000 in parts in our warehouse ready to be shipped to our dealer at any time. We provided a schematic of the parts on our website so you can have a visual of what you want....thats takes time and money to do which we have invested to make sure our dealers have what they need.

Our purpose to go into the US market is to have a chinese product that dealers and customers can be recognized as a leader in this industry and to have dealers to have confidence in knowing that we are there after the sale.

We have been in Cycle Canada and Scooter magazines and we will be in the Blue Book in 2010. We have been to every major bike show in Canada and are scheduled to be in Vancouver,Edmonton,Calgary,Toronto,Montreal and Moncton this year.

Everyone tries to knock the shit out of us but be are still here and growing with new products(Testing a new 400cc Enduro).

Sorry for the lengthy response...

Saga Canada

Jim · 09-14-2009, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SAGACANADA

Everyone tries to knock the sh-- out of us but be are still here and growing with new products(Testing a new 400cc Enduro).

That wasn't my intention... What I mean is, you went through a lot of financial stuff to have these bikes properly street legal in Canada... The USA has different regulations, if they get their bikes from you, they have to be imported into Canada and then into the USA where they need EPA and other certifications... Or were you talking about getting a partner company (Saga USA) to deal direct with China, as an affiliate of Saga Canada?

BDIAgencies · 09-15-2009, 08:54 AM

Jim,

My comment was not directed to you so I appoligize if I sounded like it was..Basically what we are trying to do is to find a master distributor to look after our distribution for us. In fact, Canada has stronger regulations than the U.S that is why we are confident and are willing to put our testing on the table. California would be the only state that we would have an issue with due to the carburation issue. We are willing to work with distributors in each state to fine tune what we need to put the product on the road. Our manufacturers has been getting several calls a month from people wanting to distribute there product in the US but they do not have the clearence to do so and the potential US customers do not want to pay for the clearance....we do.

As well, the product would be shipped direct from China to the distributor. The company that does the Customs clearance is associated with a company in the US to clear it.

At the end of the day the distributor and customers would be getting a proven product with parts,technical and sales support.

Jim · 09-15-2009, 11:29 PM

Sounds like a good plan, do you have any idea of the msrp out the door in the USA? I know you've likely seen my comments on the cost of your bikes being high in my opinion, but I also understand why they are, all of the certifications... I just have seen typically the US prices on Chinese bikes are typically lower (significantly in many cases, not as much of a difference anymore, but still less), and they don't usually like to see higher prices for the Chinese bikes, from my experience.

phil · 09-16-2009, 09:08 PM

well i guess these guys would look me up beat me to death as much complaining as i have done with other distributors. you might want to read my past posts. but if your fishing, im looking, see if you can make me bite, but be warned before you set the hook im just a little fish..but i fight hard

btw you do fish up north right?

BDIAgencies · 09-17-2009, 08:10 AM

Phil,

I wouldn't call it bashing....maybe expressing concern!!

Like I stated earlier, we are willing to help out but we are finding it difficult to find what the regulations are for each state. We talked to a dealer in Texas and he said that we would need a permit to sell our product to someone in Texas....No problem. I searched the internet,made phone call to the state office and talked to someone in DOT and I still couldn't get the info I needed.

What is needed in VA Phil? What regulations does one need to make it a street legal/registered street legal bike?

If you can help me out, that would be great.

Saga Canada
www.sagacanada.ca

phil · 09-17-2009, 12:25 PM

texas and va are two of the tuffer states but its basicly the same the state checks if you have insurance and a bond, gets their cut, $50 or 100 im not sure, and ta-da your a distributor its easier than being a dealer

Cal25 · 09-17-2009, 12:47 PM

Not sure if it is the info your looking for or not. Some of the info might help though.

http://www.txdot.gov/business/vehicl..._licensing.htm

Found it a few weeks ago looking for something else.

BDIAgencies · 09-17-2009, 04:08 PM

Thanks guys...

I will look into for sure and let you know how I make out.

Saga Canada

phil · 09-17-2009, 09:44 PM

if you need help in Va give me a call, just tell Pam you from the chinariders forum and she will put you through (telemarketers dont make it) i have the #'s and names you need 276-328-3012

TheRealWorld · 09-17-2009, 10:41 PM

I don't like political correctness, so I will blunt and to the point. Are you looking for a single distributor for the entire US.

Can you tell us a little about pricing for this 250, like retail price and if you would give us an idea on what they cost the dealer. If the dealer can't get these bikes for $1000, you are not going to be able to compete unless you can convince us that your overall product and warranty is worth the money. Can you tell us about the quality of the warranty, we don't see much warranty labor in the US, we also don't see much shipping on repair or parts.

The China Riders are a group who looks at the up front price.

09-04-2009, 10:10 AM	#1
BDIAgencies Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Moncton N.B Posts: 148	Looking for a distributor for U.S Saga Canada is looking for a distributor to carry our DOT/Street legal 250cc Enduro. If you are interested in becoming a distributor please leave me your contact information and I will get back to you with all the details. Thank you for your interest.. Saga Canada www.sagacanada.ca
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09-13-2009, 11:18 PM	#3
Jim Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada Posts: 4,880	Wouldn't the costs associated with dealing with China through Canada just make the final costs too high? __________________ "Be excellent to each other" "We are all human. Let's start to prove it!"
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09-15-2009, 11:29 PM	#8
Jim Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada Posts: 4,880	Sounds like a good plan, do you have any idea of the msrp out the door in the USA? I know you've likely seen my comments on the cost of your bikes being high in my opinion, but I also understand why they are, all of the certifications... I just have seen typically the US prices on Chinese bikes are typically lower (significantly in many cases, not as much of a difference anymore, but still less), and they don't usually like to see higher prices for the Chinese bikes, from my experience. __________________ "Be excellent to each other" "We are all human. Let's start to prove it!"
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09-16-2009, 09:08 PM	#9
phil Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: wise va Posts: 636	well i guess these guys would look me up beat me to death as much complaining as i have done with other distributors. you might want to read my past posts. but if your fishing, im looking, see if you can make me bite, but be warned before you set the hook im just a little fish..but i fight hard btw you do fish up north right? __________________ halls auto l coolster, modcycles, yanmar & zongshen, dealer fired roketa,lifan and jet moto and apollo quit me who's next
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09-17-2009, 12:25 PM	#11
phil Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: wise va Posts: 636	texas and va are two of the tuffer states but its basicly the same the state checks if you have insurance and a bond, gets their cut, $50 or 100 im not sure, and ta-da your a distributor its easier than being a dealer __________________ halls auto l coolster, modcycles, yanmar & zongshen, dealer fired roketa,lifan and jet moto and apollo quit me who's next
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09-13-2009, 09:00 PM	#2
TheRealWorld Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 817	I think you should tell us more so we know if we want to inquire!
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09-14-2009, 07:34 AM	#4
BDIAgencies Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Moncton N.B Posts: 148	I will send you a pm TRW on the program.
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09-14-2009, 09:14 AM	#5
BDIAgencies Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Moncton N.B Posts: 148	Jim.. Not at all, in fact we absorb the up front costs in getting started with a manufacturer. There is alot of cost that people don't realize that happens behind the scenes when bringing a product over to N/A and the costs of the DOT,Transport Canada and MIAC accreditation for the NVIS. In being in business for over 4 years and having over 50+ dealers in Canada we are on the rise in distributing a quality bike/scooter at a reasonable price. No other chinese importer has spent the time or money in getting there brand of Dual Sport DOT approved. Konker followed with there 200 motard bike...Lifan doesn't,ZStar doesn't Daymak doesn't even Pitster Pro's 250 doesn't......they are all registered as "Offroad" because they know they wouldn't pass the testing. Jim...there is a huge concern in the US in regard to parts. Most importers only carry the 1% that they are given when they order there containers..not one dime is spent in parts. We have over $500,000 in parts in our warehouse ready to be shipped to our dealer at any time. We provided a schematic of the parts on our website so you can have a visual of what you want....thats takes time and money to do which we have invested to make sure our dealers have what they need. Our purpose to go into the US market is to have a chinese product that dealers and customers can be recognized as a leader in this industry and to have dealers to have confidence in knowing that we are there after the sale. We have been in Cycle Canada and Scooter magazines and we will be in the Blue Book in 2010. We have been to every major bike show in Canada and are scheduled to be in Vancouver,Edmonton,Calgary,Toronto,Montreal and Moncton this year. Everyone tries to knock the shit out of us but be are still here and growing with new products(Testing a new 400cc Enduro). Sorry for the lengthy response... Saga Canada
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09-15-2009, 08:54 AM	#7
BDIAgencies Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Moncton N.B Posts: 148	Jim, My comment was not directed to you so I appoligize if I sounded like it was..Basically what we are trying to do is to find a master distributor to look after our distribution for us. In fact, Canada has stronger regulations than the U.S that is why we are confident and are willing to put our testing on the table. California would be the only state that we would have an issue with due to the carburation issue. We are willing to work with distributors in each state to fine tune what we need to put the product on the road. Our manufacturers has been getting several calls a month from people wanting to distribute there product in the US but they do not have the clearence to do so and the potential US customers do not want to pay for the clearance....we do. As well, the product would be shipped direct from China to the distributor. The company that does the Customs clearance is associated with a company in the US to clear it. At the end of the day the distributor and customers would be getting a proven product with parts,technical and sales support.
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09-17-2009, 08:10 AM	#10
BDIAgencies Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Moncton N.B Posts: 148	Phil, I wouldn't call it bashing....maybe expressing concern!! Like I stated earlier, we are willing to help out but we are finding it difficult to find what the regulations are for each state. We talked to a dealer in Texas and he said that we would need a permit to sell our product to someone in Texas....No problem. I searched the internet,made phone call to the state office and talked to someone in DOT and I still couldn't get the info I needed. What is needed in VA Phil? What regulations does one need to make it a street legal/registered street legal bike? If you can help me out, that would be great. Saga Canada www.sagacanada.ca
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09-17-2009, 12:47 PM	#12
Cal25 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Terrell and Grapevine Tx. Posts: 1,585	Not sure if it is the info your looking for or not. Some of the info might help though. http://www.txdot.gov/business/vehicl..._licensing.htm Found it a few weeks ago looking for something else.
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09-17-2009, 04:08 PM	#13
BDIAgencies Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Moncton N.B Posts: 148	Thanks guys... I will look into for sure and let you know how I make out. Saga Canada
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09-17-2009, 09:44 PM	#14
phil Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: wise va Posts: 636	if you need help in Va give me a call, just tell Pam you from the chinariders forum and she will put you through (telemarketers dont make it) i have the #'s and names you need 276-328-3012 __________________ halls auto l coolster, modcycles, yanmar & zongshen, dealer fired roketa,lifan and jet moto and apollo quit me who's next
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09-17-2009, 10:41 PM	#15
TheRealWorld Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 817	I don't like political correctness, so I will blunt and to the point. Are you looking for a single distributor for the entire US. Can you tell us a little about pricing for this 250, like retail price and if you would give us an idea on what they cost the dealer. If the dealer can't get these bikes for $1000, you are not going to be able to compete unless you can convince us that your overall product and warranty is worth the money. Can you tell us about the quality of the warranty, we don't see much warranty labor in the US, we also don't see much shipping on repair or parts. The China Riders are a group who looks at the up front price.
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