Head light Q

[Trailbikeryder]

Hi,

My V-Raptor 250 has a head light 35W bulb. If I put a new head light with a H4 or H7 bulb. Is the generator strong enough for more watts? Motor number is 166fmm.

Greets, Trailbikeryder Eric

[katoranger]

I ran a 45w bulb on my lifan with no problems. Some people switch other bulbs to LEDs to reduce the load and free up more watts for the headlight.

[Trailbikeryder]

THanks, thats a good idea. I could put a LED bulb in the back.

[Lucien]

Hi,

My V-Raptor 250 has a head light 35W bulb. If I put a new head light with a H4 or H7 bulb. Is the generator strong enough for more watts? Motor number is 166fmm.

Greets, Trailbikeryder Eric

You can replace it with a HID H4 bulb and ballast it will draw 35w and actually be cooler than regular or halogen ones. :wink:

[katoranger]

Is the headlight lens plastic or glass? More watts equals more heat. A plastic lens may melt.

Some members have put in 55w bulbs successfully. I ran a 45w without changing to any LEDs and it was fine.

The HID is a good suggestion too.

[Trailbikeryder]

The lens is glass, the rest is plastic. I don't know what you call it... the reflector..that chrome thing.. will that melt?

In Germany HID have to be approved by the vehicle registration and inspection center (TÃœV) and must be entered in the vehicle papers. If not you lose the permit to use the vehicle on public streets and you lose insurance. If you say: "those crazy Germans"... then your right.
AND HID headlights must have a cleaning function to be permitted for that vehicle!!! So you see thats not an option...hehe..I take it with a smile!! Imagine something squirting water on the headlight and then a windshield wiper going back and forth on a motorcycle headlight..

I think I will try the 45w option.

[SpudRider]

The reflector will not melt. A 45W bulb should work fine in your headlight, especially after you installed an LED bulb in the tail light. ;)

Spud :)

[Trailbikeryder]

The reflector will not melt. A 45W bulb should work fine in your headlight, especially after you installed an LED bulb in the tail light. ;)

Spud :)

So, thats what I finally did. 45W in the front and a Shin Yo LED tail light. Had to make a little adapter. Beautiful now.... :D

http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o741/trailbikeryder/New%20tail%20light/100408_05_t_zps289b4726.jpg (http://s1341.photobucket.com/user/trailbikeryder/media/New%20tail%20light/100408_05_t_zps289b4726.jpg.html)

http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o741/trailbikeryder/New%20tail%20light/IMG_20130705_222314_zps051320e2.jpg (http://s1341.photobucket.com/user/trailbikeryder/media/New%20tail%20light/IMG_20130705_222314_zps051320e2.jpg.html)

http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o741/trailbikeryder/New%20tail%20light/IMG_20130705_222405_zpsda28a6c7.jpg (http://s1341.photobucket.com/user/trailbikeryder/media/New%20tail%20light/IMG_20130705_222405_zpsda28a6c7.jpg.html)

http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o741/trailbikeryder/New%20tail%20light/IMG_20130705_222409_zps06c66019.jpg (http://s1341.photobucket.com/user/trailbikeryder/media/New%20tail%20light/IMG_20130705_222409_zps06c66019.jpg.html)


http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o741/trailbikeryder/New%20tail%20light/IMG_20130708_205438_zpsaee6cf0b.jpg (http://s1341.photobucket.com/user/trailbikeryder/media/New%20tail%20light/IMG_20130708_205438_zpsaee6cf0b.jpg.html)

[Trailbikeryder]

And now I hope I won't have change the tail bulb every 500 Kms because it went bad from "good vibrations".

[katoranger]

Go Vikings.

[Weldangrind]

And now I hope I won't have change the tail bulb every 500 Kms because it went bad from "good vibrations".

Nice light. Do you have a link for it?

[SpudRider]

And now I hope I won't have change the tail bulb every 500 Kms because it went bad from "good vibrations".
As soon as possible, I switch to an LED tail light on all my dual sport bikes. The vibrations from trail riding will quickly kill an incandescent bulb. ;)

You did a good job! :) Go Vikings! :tup:

[culcune]

And now I hope I won't have change the tail bulb every 500 Kms because it went bad from "good vibrations".

You get that far? Lol

[tecnolli]

And now I hope I won't have change the tail bulb every 500 Kms because it went bad from "good vibrations".

Hi Eric,
what a nice coincidence, just yesterday my LED backlight was dead after 4 weeks and 350Km... :lmao:
I hope you've got more luck with yours.

A solution for your issue with the H4 headlight might be a 35/35W H4 bulb for Bilux-socket, but on the one hand they are very expensive (about 15€) and on the other hand you still don't have a H4 reflector. So don't expect the same result as with a complete H4 headlight, which is the way i would go.
Was your original Taillight equipped with a 21/5W bulb? Then you only save about 4 Watts without braking, but the generator should be able to handle the 45/40W H4 bulbs.

[Trailbikeryder]

@Weldangrind

I bought mine here:
http://www.polo-motorrad.de/de/rucklicht-led-ducati-monster-enduros-sco.html

This one on Amazon.com seems to be similar:
http://www.amazon.com/1994-2008-TailLights-Integrated-Indicators-Motorcycle/dp/B004PC5GKS/ref=sr_1_6?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1373453644&sr=1-6&keywords=led+tail+light

@tecnolli
Oh no :( , thas not good. Was it the same tail light as my new one? Maybe it was built on a monday morning or friday afternoon?

Was your original Taillight equipped with a 21/5W bulb? Then you only save about 4 Watts without braking, but the generator should be able to handle the 45/40W H4 bulbs.

Yes, your're right. I'm only saving 4 watts (I try to save everywhere I can ;) ).

@culcune
500 Kilometers is alot. Imagine you had to walk that distance.

@SpudRider
have you had any LED lights go bad on you?

[SpudRider]

The LED bulbs that illuminate my speedometer are the only ones which have ever extinguished. I have never had an LED tail light, turn signal, or indicator bulb burn out. :)

[tecnolli]

Was it the same tail light as my new one?
Ooops, i forgot to mention that, is was NOT the same as yours. :hehe:
I got my monday-morning-or-friday-afternoon-taillight from ebay, but is was exactly the same one as this:
http://www.polo-motorrad.de/de/led-rucklicht-85-x-22-x-40-mm.html
I wouldn't buy it again, but after 4 weeks the distributor is only obligated to take it back and send me a new one. The new one will get a nice warm safe place in my closet.
I'll give this one a try:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Motorrad-LED-Rucklicht-Bates-Style-schwarz-Chopper-Cruiser-Oldtimer-Custom-/230968794016?pt=Motorrad_Kraftradteile&hash=item35c6d01ba0

[Trailbikeryder]

Not the same one, but the same brand. Now my brake light switch went bad. So back to Polo. They are starting to like me.... I think we need a floating stabilizer for the tail light.

[Plado]

That's interesting what you did to adapt the rear light pod to take a rear facing bulb and it has answered my question not yet asked as to whether you can put an LED bulb into a sideways facing holder such as the one on the rear light of the V-Raptor.
My guess is that the LED bulb has to face directly backwards because the multiple bulbs are only bright from in front and nothing much comes out of the sides.

The normal bulb can be mounted sideways on because it's a globe of course. But it does look like a bit of a rigmarole to fashion an adapter to make the holder face backwards at the vehicles behind you.

I've kept mine as normal incandescent bulbs in the rear and put a brighter Halogen bulb in the headlamp. Setting it up in broad daylight is a bit of a hit-and-miss affair.

[SpudRider]

SuperbrightLEDs sells a lot of 1157 LED bulbs which emit light at the sides. :)

http://www.superbrightleds.com/cat/tail-brake-turn/filter/Cross_Reference_Number,1157,21,195:

This particular bulb has a lot interesting applications. ;)

http://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/tail-brake-turn/36-led-1157-pcb-lamp/175/

http://d114hh0cykhyb0.cloudfront.net/images/uploads/led-pcb-lamp-36-led-store-1157-pcb-x36.jpg

[FastDoc]

Interesting.

Those are similar to the one I used in my Polysport headlight on the YZ400F dual sport.

[Trailbikeryder]

If you get the SMD style that light up all around the bulb, it should visible in the original tail light. The SMD's are brighter then the LED's. A least the ones I've seen in real life.