My HS200GY HSUN

[Brainsquishy]

I'm driving a HS200GY by HSUN or Chongqing Huansong Industries Group Co., Ltd. The decals on it don't seem to match the manual. The decals have ULIKE and UK200cc. What's up with that?
I've been doing my daily runs for my company (my own) on the bike and have the speedo up to 432KM so far. I will put the pics up in my gallery, if I can get into it. The site messed up when I tried to register. Won't let me in. Maybe a mod can fix that for me.

Since I got it I have:
-locktighted it (mostly blue except red on the bigger stuff)
-repainted part of the frame where I spilled battery acid on it.
(Canadian Tire - Tremclad Silver. Matched well.)
-went over the whole frame with rust inhibitor to protect behind the
welds and inside the frame where I could.
-Coated electrical ends etc. with dielectric gel protectant.
-got sized for riser foot pegs for the rear for my son.
Should come up about 10 inches for him. I will take
a pic of them when ready.
-Changed the rear tube. Popped on me.
-Changed the rear sprocket from 56T to 42T. (17T on the front)

No oil change yet, I think I am suppose to wait till it is at 1000km first. I already have my bottles of AMSOIL Synthetic Motorcycle Oil 10W-40 waiting. Is that the right stuff?

The bike is doing nice so far. The sprocket change was dramatic. Very required for the road.
Next thing to do will be the front tire tube change and the KandN Filter Cone. I will do the jet size at the same time I believe. I guess I should drill the exhaust as well. Is that required?
Oh ya, what is the reason for the clip mod?

I am having some issues that I could use some help with.
1) The front fork bearing is leaking grease. What should I do about that?
Is it a matter of tightening it up? How?

2) It is starting to (occasionally) pop out of first gear when I start off. Might be from me not getting it completely into first when I stop at a light. Seems to need to be moving a bit or I need to engage the clutch between down shifts to get it to go into the next lower gear. It didn't need to do this under 350km. Oil change required?

3) The new rear sprocket allows for much higher speeds now. I got up to 100-105 km/hr (62mph-65mph) today but had to roll the throttle down to 95 km/hr due to the bike starting to wobble the front tire. Didn't like that! The bike has plenty still in the throttle to go past 105km/hr (65 mph) but I need to fix this wobble issue of course. I need a stable 115km - 120km/hr (71 mph - 75 mph) to be comfortable on the 400 series of highways (Interstate). Any suggestions with this one?

4) Need to dampen out a couple of plastic fender vibrations. On the right side the fender (plastic side panel) buzzes against the exhaust heat shield. I could use a piece of high density foam to go between them, but I am sure it would melt. Any one...?
On the other side, I pushed/bent my battery box (metal) in a bit. I am going to slip a piece of foam from an old life jacket in the battery box to keep the battery from jiggling as well.
Might also check the engine mount bolts to see if they are the right size. Might be some vibration there as well.

5) I haven't done a lot of night driving yet (learners permit) but I think a brighter headlight is in order. Is there an after market bulb I can just replace the existing one with?

6) The signals come stock with a beeper. The beeper beeps when the signal flashes to remind me to turn them off after a turn and I guess it is loud enough to convince every other car around me there is a dump truck backing up onto their trunks. I thing I might put a switch in there to turn it on or off depending on how I feel that day.

7) I am going to put a "Holy F()[&" strap on the seat for passengers. My little guy might use it.

8) Is there a way to put a small windshield on these bikes. Easy on/easy off? It might cut down on the wind blast at 100km/hr+.

9) Most definitely I am putting on a good waterproof luggage pod. Saw it posted here and have needed it so many times. Need some side boxes as well for longer days out.

People stop me all the time to ask what kind of bike it is or just to say "Nice Bike". Even a couple of guys with green hair. Not a bad little bike so far. Funny thing is I have only heard of one other guy that had one so far (theENIGMATIC).

I will use this thread as my running update on the machine.

I would change the oil after a couple hundred km!

[katoranger]

Time for an oil change. Don't use the amsoil yet. Use some more dino for another 500kms or so.

The stock tires may not be real stable at higher speeds.

Allen

[Dragon]

2) I hope you're not using the motor oil that came with the bike. It's not meant to be run on.

3) Make sure the steering head is tight.

5) Make sure your headlight is pointing properly first. One that is aimed too high will make the light appear dim.

[Brainsquishy]

OK, will do the oil change tomorrow. Dino? What is that type? Non synthetic?

As for the tires, I can see that being a problem.
Would I need to change both the front and back, or just the front?

[Brainsquishy]

Will do with the tightening suggestion. It probably is that simple but I think it needs a tool?

I didn't know not to run the stock oil. My bad, but the dealer (not much of a dealer) never mentioned anything to me.

[katoranger]

The front will make the most difference. If you don't plan to ride dirt then go ahead and get a street tire. Otherwise the duro medians have been great on my bike and still allow some dirt riding.

www.americanmototire.com don't know if they ship to Canada, but the tires are a bargain.

I would use some dino 10w40 or 15w40 yet until you get a few more miles on the bike. Wait until at least a 1000kms.

Allen

[elroyjetsn]

Welcome,

Sounds like the same bike that Viva has been selling and several of us have them. I'm pleased with mine. :)

My turn signal alarm died a while back for some reason. It was irratic from the start.

The oil these bikes ship with is not very good and should be changed out ASAP! 8O

Your ODO probably reads kilometers even though the speedo reads MPH.

Don't recommend pushing these bikes over 65mph if it will even go any faster. Mine runs 7.5k revs at 65 with 39/17 and the power curve falls off above 6 anyway.

[Dragon]

Will do with the tightening suggestion. It probably is that simple but I think it needs a tool?

I have no idea where one can find such a tool. I suppose one could make one. As for my lazy self, I very, very carefully used a hammer and flat head screwdriver.


I didn't know not to run the stock oil. My bad, but the dealer (not much of a dealer) never mentioned anything to me.

Wow! Maybe your dealer changed the oil before delivering the bike.

OK, will do the oil change tomorrow. Dino? What is that type? Non synthetic?

As for the tires, I can see that being a problem.
Would I need to change both the front and back, or just the front?

"Dino oil" or "dinosaur oil" Means it comes from the earth! or petrolium based, as opposed to synthetic wich is man made.....

Will do with the tightening suggestion. It probably is that simple but I think it needs a tool?

I have no idea where one can find such a tool. I suppose one could make one. As for my lazy self, I very, very carefully used a hammer and flat head screwdriver.


I didn't know not to run the stock oil. My bad, but the dealer (not much of a dealer) never mentioned anything to me.

Wow! Maybe your dealer changed the oil before delivering the bike.

Dragon! The optimist..... :D

[Brainsquishy]

Thanks large for all the info. I will post my results and some more pics in the next couple of days.
Now that elroyjetsn mentions the turn signal thing, mine got real slow on the right side today. Only for a short time though, then back to normal.

[theENIGMATIC]

Yeah its a messy bike for sure, well mine is...Im having fun learning and making mods with it though......I replaced the headlight, and yeah I would probably say go brighter...you probably should downshift through all the gears and pull the clutch in on this bike, street tires are a must and dont drop it, I dropped mine once and Im still trying to recover the damage by finding parts etc.lol.Its a cool bike though!

[Brainsquishy]

Nice to hear from ya.
I'm going to fix mine up nice. Just got one of these front tires and a heavy duty tube.
http://www.americanmototire.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=200_246_247
I will have it put on tomorrow. I will post if it makes a difference. Rear is still stock.

Got the "dino" oil and will change latter today and tighten up the steering nut with the hammer and screw driver method (gently).
I will do my best not to <strike>crash</strike> drop it.

[Dragon]

...tighten up the steering nut with the hammer and screw driver method (gently).
I will do my best not to <strike>crash</strike> drop it.

Before you tear apart the handlebars, does the steering feel like there is something loose when you hit a bump or a pothole? If not, then I would say your steering head is tight enough.

[elroyjetsn]

Speaking of inner tubes. Been draggin my feet. Definately need to get some proper ones tonight if possible. :oops:

[Brainsquishy]

Did my oil change tonight. My 3.5 yr old helped. Oil was pretty much black, kind of translucent. No bad smell.

[katoranger]

It will be dirty for the first few changes will all the machining residue and with the transmission gears wearing together.

It took about 2000 miles before I stopped seeing tiny metal specs in the oil.

Change it again in about 500kms.

I am due again for a change.

Allen

[Brainsquishy]

Will do.

The front fork steering nut seems to be tight. No play there, yet there is a bit of grease running out the bottom.
I guess I will have a local bike shop take a look at it. I need the front tire changed any way, so they might as well look at the fork bearing issue to.

[Brainsquishy]

Steering nut seems tight. I will need a bike expert to set me straight on that one.
The down shifting problem is becoming a real pain. The bike won't downshift right unless I slightly engage the clutch between down shifts. If I come to a stop before I get to first, I can't get to first with out fiddling with the shifter and the clutch lever. I should be watching the traffic and the lights. If I don't giggle it while I'm in first and the stop light, it sometimes pops out of first because it didn't quite get all the way there during the downshifting. That is down right embarrassing and dangerous if the guy behind me ends up on me.

Any suggestions?
I was thinking I might have the same or a similar problem Mountainwolf had with the fix he posted on March 20th 2008.
http://www.chinariders.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=34418#34418

[katoranger]

You may just need to adjust the clutch cable.

Try that before you spend money at the shop.

Allen

[Brainsquishy]

Tighten or loosen? or figure it out as I go along.

Thanks for the advice, I do appreciate it.

[katoranger]

I believe it would be tighten it so that it releases the clutch more when you pull the lever in.

This may not be your problem, but most likely the cable was not adjusted properly with it left the box.

Allen

[IronFist]

Just rolling the bike back a foot can help find a gear. I don't want this to turn into an oil thread, but what oil are you using, squish?

[Brainsquishy]

I'm using Formula 1 by Motomaster (Canadian Tire Brand) Premium 4-Stroke Motorcycle Oil 20w50, it is not synthetic.

I looked closely at how the cable moves when I release the clutch lever. It "seems" to not come back exactly all the way to the engage position. I mean the cable, not the lever, where it connects to the bike trans lever. The lever can come back (engage) a slight amount more. Could that be that the cable needs to be lubed up? How is that done?
The shifting was wonderful before 350km (215miles), not so good now after 450km (280miles).

[red2003]

2) I hope you're not using the motor oil that came with the bike. It's not meant to be run on.

If you are basing that advice on posts read here, don't believe it. There is not "shipping oil" in these bikes. I have never even heard of such a thing. It is a cheap oil, no doubt, but it is fine for initial break-in. I'm sure if there was, then the bikes would come with a big "CHANGE THE OIL BEFORE RUNNING: SHIPPING OIL IN ENGINE" warning sticker. Can't believe everything you read on the internet 8O .

[IronFist]

Squish:
Your clutch handle should have some free play. But if it has too much play it won't fully ingage the clutch when shifting. I think you might need a clutch cable adjustment. If it's minor just back the adjuster at the handle...outward away from the handle. That should engage your clutch more.

Cable lube, (the way I did it is probably wrong, but) I took the cable end out of the lever, I held the end vertical, and ran about 6 drops of 3 in 1 oil down the wire. I could have got a cable luber and proper cable lube, but I'm cheap. I was told that any lube is better than no lube at all. :wink:

I'm experiencing some hard shifting too, like the shifter is stuck. Not the same bike as you though. I've only had the problem since I switched back to dino oil from synth. Once your bike is broken in, you might like to try synth. I didn't intend to suggest that you were using the original oil that the bike was shipped with. Re-post after the adjust and let us know.

[IronFist]

Sorry
As for the steering, can you get the bike up on a box, front tire off the ground. Get someone to hold the bike for you. Go to the front and grab the forks with both hands. Pull toward and push away several times. If your steering has free play you will feel it with this test. Let us know.

[Brainsquishy]

Great stuff, I will post shortly but I have so many calls and email coming in and I am prototyping a new product. It is a bit hard to find adequate time.

[Brainsquishy]

I lubed up the cable with 8 drops of 3 in 1 oil just to be sure. The clutch lever doesn't have an adjuster, so I used the adjuster at the engine. 1.5 turns I think. I took a drive to see a couple of clients and only had it pop out once from 1st gear at a light. I think it was a bit better this time. It "seems" to be getting caught or hung up a bit inside the bike. Like on the edge of something. That is why I thought about the other clutch fix I mentioned earlier.
I will give it another turn and try again latter on. Some pics too but my gallery doesn't let me in. Can someone fix that?

[theENIGMATIC]

I agree with the oil thing red...my brother is a mechanic and he said dont even bother with the oil right now, I have had no probs yet, I do agree to be safe and optimistic 8) an oil change and higher quality will do fine right off the bat, but I wouldnt worry too much if you would rather concentrate on other things!

[elroyjetsn]

Mine pops out of first occassionally at a light. (rather embarrasing)

Since i've been downshifting to first while rolling before i stop it hasn't happened. Doesn't like going into first while stopped.. and neutral is almost impossible to find when stopped. :lol:

[Brainsquishy]

I moved the cable back another two turns of the nuts and took her out for a spin. The shifting improved. It feels better and no pop outs. I can down shift easier as well. I will be moving it back a little bit more to see if I hit the sweet spot. Neutral is not hard to find.
That being said, I find that my rear wheel isn't round. Needs a spoke adjustment. I remember doing that to my pedal bike in the seventies and found it to be a pain, even though I was maybe 7. I think I will go to the experts at a local pedal bike shop and let them work their magic on it.
My signal got real slow again on the right side. Couldn't tell what the problem was off the bat, until I looked at the rear light. The bulb was blown. On examination. it looked fine. Took the other one out from the left side and popped it in the right side and the signals worked fine. Picked up some replacements at Canadian Tire and put a spare in my on bike tool box. Unfortunately the plastic for the turn signal cracks just around the screw hole. I turned it just a bit too tight. Cheap plastic! I'll see if it stays on, if not... LED replacements.

Sloppy Bike! But I'm ironing it out...

At 500km now.

[Brainsquishy]

Here's a bit of an update on my break'in.

Had a stretch of open road today and tested to see if I still had the front wobble after 105km/hr. (Have not changed my front tire yet)
I hit 112km/hr (69.5mph) on the speedo. It was like a brick wall. Tried to get passed it 4 times today without luck. The bike was rock solid. No wobble or any thing else. I did find latter on in the ride the spark plug was bit loose so I tightened it up. I need to get the bike to 130km/hr (80mph) . Will do the filter, jet & muffler mods.

After a number of appointments, I passed by an entrance to a dirt trail in a County Forest. Went in for a look and had my first real trail ride. Hill climbs, tight twisty bush trails, mud, sand YAAAHOOOOO!

My new clock even hung on for the whole run. I should have checked my bike after the tour though...
...seems I dragged a 3 foot stick that got stuck in the kickstand all the way across town to my door. :)

725km on the odometer so far.

[yurkia]

should keep the stick as a momento, hahaha

[theENIGMATIC]

Yeah I have been having alot of the same problems...I only gear down to 1st on a tight turn now at a stop sign or something......I have had too many slips trying to find the fraggin gear:)
Grease from the ball bearings is spewing out my bike too...also there is a slight nudge to the left on my steering...I have to fix it.if I hit a pot hole I will probably be in the wrong lane...it looks like there is a rubber band type of thing, I guess to keep the grease from coming out, it looks like it has a kink in it up into the steering column, I hope if I can straighten it out that will fix the problem...my bros on vacation so he wont be around to help for a few weeks...I have an HSGY200 as well!

[kens97sto171]

I have the same wobbling problem at about 65-70MPH on the speedo.. not GPS verified.

I am wondering if it could be the front mud gaurd... if you look at it it is kinda angled up, mabye it is catching the wind under it, lightening up the fron end???

Just a thought... could take it off and compare it with and without.

As to your shifting problem.. mine does not like going into first at a stop either..this is normal. You should be in 1st before you stop moving.. If you cant then you may need to let the clutch out a little and try it that way... or roll the bike back or forward a little.

Ken

[Brainsquishy]

Yeah I have been having alot of the same problems...I only gear down to 1st on a tight turn now at a stop sign or something......I have had too many slips trying to find the fraggin gear:)
Grease from the ball bearings is spewing out my bike too...also there is a slight nudge to the left on my steering...I have to fix it.if I hit a pot hole I will probably be in the wrong lane...it looks like there is a rubber band type of thing, I guess to keep the grease from coming out, it looks like it has a kink in it up into the steering column, I hope if I can straighten it out that will fix the problem...my bros on vacation so he wont be around to help for a few weeks...I have an HSGY200 as well!

I'm real interested in what you find with the leaking grease issue. I't a bit like a bleeding wound. I think I will tear it down and fix it this weekend. I'll take some pics and post them here.
The adjusting I did to the cable at the engine removed my shifting problems.
http://johnsongrouponlineinc.com/images/grease_leak1.jpg

[IronFist]

Man you guys discovered a lot lately :D

elroyjetsn Posted: Mine pops out of first occassionally at a light. (rather embarrasing) Since i've been downshifting to first while rolling before i stop it hasn't happened. Doesn't like going into first while stopped.. and neutral is almost impossible to find when stopped.

That, and being in the right gear at the right time is why I learned to down shift. When the light turns green I know I'm in the right gear and it's ingaged. Downshifting is good, and as red says it saves the brakes.

Squish:
Until I broke my front fender, I didn't know just how much air my fender was catching.

kens97sto171 Just a thought... could take it off and compare it with and without. No front fender is illegal here, but I'd bet if you do it, you would have a smoother ride. :D

Wheel truing is something I wasn't comfortable with till red gave me a slap. There is great info on truing, and tuning wheels here if you search for it. If you sit down with a pop and take your time I'd bet you can do it. Worst case, take it to the shop after you try. The price is the same. :lol:

Uneven blinking usually happens when you put in the wrong wattage bulb. It makes the signal rely blink slow usually. If it doesn't light at all it's usually a bigger problem.

As for the grease, I don't know if there is a seal. The only problem besides the dirt would be if all yer grease weeped away. Stiffening is the only warning to repack the bearings in grease.

Don't know if I helped, or made sense, but I tried.

[theENIGMATIC]

Yup, I will be getting my brother to look at the bearings, mine started leaking badly and I swear my steering is worse now, probably from the lack of grease...terrible problems with fixing this shi7 but will eventually have to do.seeing as though yours is doing the same its probably a manufacturer defect.like Iron said some tightening will probably help!

[elroyjetsn]

Check your front tire. My OEM front tire has extremely irregular tread pattern. The knobbies in any given row may vary up to 5mm or so in length. 8O

No doubt, that is contributing to my low speed front whobble. Non whatsoever at higher speeds for some reason. :wink:

I'm hoping that as it wears, they'll even out some. Lousy QC, that's all!

[Brainsquishy]

This HSUN 200GY of mine has a PZ-30 carb. What exact size of UNI Foam Pod filter do I get/order?

Who do I contact to get a couple of main jets for it?

[IronFist]

Local shop Squish, or call Bruce. Don't bother with email from what I heard. I don't have his number, but it's been posted lots.

[theENIGMATIC]

Not sure but you might want to look for a 30 on the pod filter I.D.
Im not sure the 30 in pz-30 is the O.D. SIZE, but I think you should
Match the o.d. of your carb throat with the i.d. of the filter ..Im guessin outer diameter and inner diameter....look forward to your answer as I believe I also have a pz-30......

[alonzo]

that grease leak is not too bad. there is some really good grease at napa autoparts. I belive it has a drop temp of 800 deegrees F it is red in color. if you decide to get it make sure to have some old gloves to handle it with. if you get it on your skin/clothes it will not wash out.

[Brainsquishy]

Today I hit 120km/hr (74.56 MPH). Still had a little throttle left, but didn't want to run up onto the car ahead of me. This is of course speedometer speed, not GPS verified. However, I'm comparing to my previous top speed last week of 112km/hr (69.59 MPH). I only changed the oil to synthetic when I hit 1000km (I'm at 1350km now). I hope the new filter and jet mod will get me to the 130km/hr (80MPH). (or maybe a little jet engine on the rear rack would do it.)

The front wheel was a little squirrelly, but I just figured the front fender was catching a lot of air. Then I remembered a recent post that the tire air pressure might do that. Seems I never had checked my air pressure in the front wheel. It didn't even register on my gauge. It is now up to 32 PSI, but I'm pulling the wheel and changing the tube and tire before the next attempt. The valve stem isn't straight up in the rim right now and I don't trust it anymore.

I will need to remove some electrolyte from my battery as well. Some turkey over filled it before it was installed. It's way over the max fill mark. It keeps dripping acid on the frame and stripping the paint.

Other than that, I got my new JCWhitney large size rear trunk. This thing is the cats ass. I already have it full of junk. Its great!
http://johnsongrouponlineinc.com/images/Rear_Trunk.jpg


The new windshield comes next week. Bracket system on the handle bars 11"x15" I think, clear. $80.00 CAD
Comes off in 30 seconds, or faster if you hit a tree.

One more thing. A local bike shop (http://www.1coolride.com) is having a BBQ for their clientèle on Saturday here in Barrie, ON. They will be letting everyone dyno their bikes. I don't know anything about it, but it sounds cool. I will post the results.

[fatboy250]

Looks good! When you get your windshield fitted, post a thread with pics. This can go in the parts thread for add-ons.

Jason

[radad]

Brainsquishy
where did you get your bike? (ontario) and if i can ask how much it was and any problems getting it on the road
i am looking to get a bike
hanks

[Brainsquishy]

Brainsquishy
where did you get your bike? (Ontario) and if i can ask how much it was and any problems getting it on the road
i am looking to get a bike
hanks
I got the bike at All Wheels Motor Sports in Concord, ON (www.allwheels.ca) for $1,899.0 plus tax. They could have done better if I got someone else to buy as well. The PDI (putting it together) was poor. Several items almost immediately fell off or dangled. They seem to have over filled the battery or didn't check it. The staff also seemed to argue A LOT!

Not real impressed them so far.

I have been trying to convince a great dealer in Barrie to get more chinabikes and sell them at a reasonable price, but they seem a bit to greedy right now. They sell a 150 DS for $3,000.00 (ouch) I'm going to try and get them to acquire one of the new 400cc bikes coming into the US right now.

You can read my post on plating the bike here: http://chinariders.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=48659&highlight=hsun#48659

Where are you located if I may ask?

All the best!

[Brainsquishy]

Here's the new windshield. Installed with a small additional bend in the bracket. I just stuck the bracket into a hole drilled into a wooden work bench and applied just enough pressure to bend it about 10 degrees so it fit into the slot between the headlight faring and the gauges and clock.

Make: motovan.com
Model: M100 71-900


http://www.johnsongrouponlineinc.com/images/windshield3.jpg

It seems to look not too bad. I should have gotten the M300 version though. That one is 2.5" taller. I'm 6'1"+ and it's a tad too short I think. I'll see if I can stretch it.

http://www.johnsongrouponlineinc.com/images/windshield1.jpg

http://www.johnsongrouponlineinc.com/images/windshield2.jpg

http://www.johnsongrouponlineinc.com/images/sport-m100windshield.jpg


http://www.motovan.com
It's in the Cruisers 08-09 catalogue on their site.

I bought mine from http://www.1coolride.com in Barrie, ON Canada.
I told them they "might" get some orders from other interested chinariders.

I'll do a highway test tomorrow and report.

[Brainsquishy]

So I'm at 1850km now. Just about all of it is street.
However, I joined an off roading club and went out to an event. I hooked up with some of the event volunteers (all 35 plus yrs old) and went on my first Hare scramble, single and double track run.
Holy crap, can these guys ride. I hung out at the back of the pack while they waited at the end of each leg for me to pop out of the bush. I wiped out 3 times. Came real close another 3 times.
The bikes I rode with where all 450 -650's with tons of power, and there was me with my little 200cc Chinabike. They where typically polite (as we are here in Canada, most of the time).
I do have to say that if I could actually ride like them, the 200cc would have kept up.
I did crush my cell phone though. My handle bar bag dropped down between the bars and the tank. Bye bye Motorola Q.

This type of riding means high revs for me, and I have since developed a few issue worth noting here.

A) The stock tires are garbage. The knobs are tearing from the tire. They are down right dangerous in mud and almost as bad in sand. I put on Some good ones with heavy duty tubes, front and back.

B) The front fender bends well in a wipe out.

C) The left cargo rack/side-plastic mount broke off. This didn't happen during the off road ride, It's just so flimsy it snapped. I will have it welded and beefed up on both sides.

D) The engine seems to be running a little rough. There is also more engine vibration. I am going to check the spark plug to see what colour it is. The engine mounts have not loosened so I don't know why it would be doing this. There also seems to be a very slight power loss. Any suggestions?

E) The right side-plastic is showing a crack from the middle top and is working its way down. How do you reinforce the plastic to stop the crack?

F) Got my new seat cover from katoranger. Can't wait to try it out. Thanks again buddy. I'm going to tone down that beeping signal when the seat comes off.

I will post some pics of the cracking tires tomorrow.

[forchetto]

If you are basing that advice on posts read here, don't believe it. There is not "shipping oil" in these bikes. I have never even heard of such a thing. It is a cheap oil, no doubt, but it is fine for initial break-in. I'm sure if there was, then the bikes would come with a big "CHANGE THE OIL BEFORE RUNNING: SHIPPING OIL IN ENGINE" warning sticker. Can't believe everything you read on the internet 8O .

Agree. I've never heard of "protection oil". If there was such a thing, the maker would run the engine for a few minutes during test and then drain it and filter it to be re-used on the production line.
I believe we're in the realm of the Urban myth here. A minority say that it's a straight grade of oil and perfectly usable during running-in.

[bex]

http://johnsongrouponlineinc.com/images/Rear_Trunk.jpg

That bike looks really nice with the dual exhausts out the back...kinda KTM'ish...congrats!

[theENIGMATIC]

Make sure the idle is set around 1500rpm.as you know I ride the HSUN Gy as well and it seems to run smoothest when set at 1500 +- 150 at idle.....hows your oil are you running low?.I agree the front fender is alot stronger than it looks on this bike.cant say the same for the rear though! :D
Also what blend of gas are you using?

[Brainsquishy]

I will check the idle latter tonight, after my little ones go to sleep.

Today I had the broken carrier mounting tab welded. ($20.00)
I also really like my new tires. Maxxis. Seem to provide much better road traction.
I am pretty sure my engine is not running as well as before my dirt biking adventure. It is definitely "missing" and loosing power in the higher revs and when I roll off the throttle.
I pulled the spark plug and it is kind of whitish. Not tan or black. So that would mean it is running lean, right?
So what am I suppose to do now?

Also, I will be doing some carbon fibre work on the plastics. Rear fender where it mount to the carrier bolts (shared), Left side plastic to rebuild the bolt hole for the carrier mount and rear fender. Lastly the right side plastic, as it is cracking at the mid point. I have plenty of carbon fibre and epoxies. I just need to find the one that bonds to plastic the best.
I will post pics of my handy work latter on.

I think a bunch of the vibration was the plastic as it busted free from the mounting bolts.

[theENIGMATIC]

I ordered four replacement NGK sparks of ebay to the specs in the HSUN manual.hopefully they are not knock-offs......Yeah I did a bit of light off roading and the bike started acting a bit funny after.I think it rattles more than just the bolts out on these.....I wouldnt do too much of that if I want to keep riding on the street!

[Brainsquishy]

I ordered four replacement NGK sparks of ebay to the specs in the HSUN manual.hopefully they are not knock-offs......Yeah I did a bit of light off roading and the bike started acting a bit funny after.I think it rattles more than just the bolts out on these.....I wouldnt do too much of that if I want to keep riding on the street!

Hey there my ENIGMATIC friend, what was the spec/model number, for the plugs. I think I'm going to get one from crappy tire and change mine out. Might help some.

How do i fix a lean problem?

[IronFist]

lean at idle/ adjust screw.
Lean at WOT/ rejet.

[Brainsquishy]

The idle is quite fine. So is start-up.
Since I have a PZ-30 carb, any hints on where I would get a new jet and pod filter. And what size would I get?

I suppose I should disassemble the carb and look.
Canadian sources?

Thanks again guys.

[theENIGMATIC]

Standard spark for these is D8EA......I had a mechanic tell me mine was foul and he said he has never seen this type on any car or bike.he was wrong the plug is fine.....I can never find much at crap tire so I just went to ebay.let me know if you find a good spark at CT and I can just go there from now on.

[Brainsquishy]

Thanks, I'll look today.

The bike is definitely missing. Idle seems to be pretty good, but as I add throttle the missing is much more pronounced.
I'm going to first change the plug.
Then, if it isn't fixed, I will check the cables and the connection to the CDI. I'll be looking for errant arcing while running in a dark area.
Lastly, I will need to change the CDI if all else fails.

[Brainsquishy]

It turned out to be the plug. I put in an Iridium (gapped it between .6 and .7mm) and it is running sweet. WAY less vibration and no missing at all.
Here is the old plug that caused the problem:

http://www.johnsongrouponlineinc.com/images/bad-plug.jpg

http://www.johnsongrouponlineinc.com/images/bad-plug2.jpg

[theENIGMATIC]

Good to hear.that plug does look bad!

[pizzarider]

"-Changed the rear sprocket from 56T to 42T. (17T on the front)"

I just got a hs 200gy and am wanting to do the same thing. Where did you get your 42T sprocket? Do you know which name brands can be used on the hs 200gy? Thanks! -Cory

[Brainsquishy]

"-Changed the rear sprocket from 56T to 42T. (17T on the front)"

I just got a hs 200gy and am wanting to do the same thing. Where did you get your 42T sprocket? Do you know which name brands can be used on the hs 200gy? Thanks! -Cory

I posted this earlier in this thread.
It read:
I got it from the Barrie, ON Honda Powerhouse www.barriehonda.com 1-800-267-4449 powerparts@barriehonda.com. But I think any dealer can get one in your local area.

JTSprocket 324-8702 (42Tooth Rear Sprocket)

They also tell me the JTSprocket 324-8720 is a 45Tooth Rear Sprocket that fits the same bike.

These where cross referenced against the Honda XL 100S (years 1977-7

If I may make a suggestion, I would have gotten the 4 little studs at the same time and put them on the sprocket before I started. Moving them from the original 56T to the new 42T was a bit of a pain.

I had to remove 4 links from the chain (caveman style) and I have a 17T front sprocket.

[pizzarider]

Thanks!

[katoranger]

Bruce at EJCycles in the US has them 330-274-0098 too.

For your riding you will want a 42-45T sprocket.

Allen

[Brainsquishy]

So I hit just over 2200km so far.

The relationship is kind of like this.
On Monday I feel like I hate my bike, on Tuesday I love it. On Wednesday it feels like a can full of rocks. Thursday I go over the whole bike, change the oil and tighten loose stuff. On Friday I go on a fantastic ride. Its so good I get all giddy inside and keep going.
This seems to repeat. I think I've gotten the bugs out or at the very least I have a better understanding of what the quirks are with my bike. It really likes to be maintained on a very regular basis.

The chain seems to get loose often and because the adjusters are crap, it is real hard to make both sides even without using a measuring device.
When loose, it makes the WOT in 5th on the highway feel like the bike is going to fall apart. Now I know what to do when that happens. Tighten the chain.

Got a slight oil leak from the top of the engine. I tightened the bolts up there and it seems to have stopped.

The bolts for the exhaust at the engine got loose as well and tightened them down.

Oil change with 5w20. I picked up that oil by mistake, but put it in anyway. The bike seems to love it. Had my best street ride ever right after that.

Today I love my Chinabike.

http://www.johnsongrouponlineinc.com/images/chinabike1.jpg

http://www.johnsongrouponlineinc.com/images/me-bike-sydney.jpg

My Australian Shepherd loves it too.

[IronFist]

I was in Barrie today :D London last month. :D :D

Let me know if you want to take a ride along highway 7 with me some time. 80 km/h, farms and livestock, it's a cool ride squish?

The real question though is why do your plugs look like that?

Did you try the cdi mod? Is this the first time since trying a stage II or III CDI that you have changed your plugs? That might be your answer right there.

[Brainsquishy]

Ironfist, I almost did the knotthead mod, but chickened out because there where some raised ridges on the pickup that nobody mentioned before. I dropped the dremmel and put it back together fast, before anyone saw.
Didn't do the CDI either as it seems to be a dead horse.
I'm waiting on a report from voyer on the filter and jet mod on a twin HSUN and then I'm doing that one.

The plugs where originals. They fouled or something after my first and so far, only real dirt riding moto adventure. Reved the crap out of it to keep up with the seasoned big boys I was hooked up with.
Once I put the new plugs in, it ran like a top.

Right now it is running the best yet. I get it up to 120km/hr right now when everything is perfect. Needs more power though.

I would love to do a street ride with you when it is possible. I have a 1 yr old and a 3.5yr old, two online stores and a specialty contracting division with two employees. I have pretty much zero free time. My son owns me on the weekends. I use my bike during the week to do as many appointments and meetings as possible. Riding the bike is my zen time. It really recharges my head.

Being as its summer, I have given myself authority to take random days off, so I don't get burnt out. If you can go for a burn during the week days, I'm in! Let me know well in advance and I will set up my schedule to make it happen. :D

[IronFist]

I'm meeting dagger tomorrow, downtown Toronto, but he doesn't have a bike here. I still haven't gone for a ride with anyone. :cry:

Pick a day and I'll be there. If the weather sucks we can re-book. Even if it's for an hour, it would be very cool just to meet a chinarider :o Sounds like you've been working too hard anyway, a ride on highway 7 can clear a mind very quickly.

[IronFist]

I went to the coffee shop to meet dagger57, but "he" went to the wrong coffee shop and I missed him here in Toronto. Oh well, I might have found a riding bud here in toronto, but still has to pass the M2 test. Very keen to ride though, you can tell by the conversation. :D

[theENIGMATIC]

LOL.I know how you feel....Im currently ready to burn my bike...although Im persuaded by something to just fix it up instead.....its a tuff bike to maintain especially if your times limited and parts are scarce.hopefully mine ends up OK instead of in flames......I have to remove the rear caliper and inspect and clean as it started to leak again.might even need a replacement...well see!

[yurkia]

awww ironfist.. that sucks.

[Brainsquishy]

I took the bike out for a 100km ride to a job site yesterday and it seemed to have that WOT vibe again. It seems like the chain goes into some kind of harmonics where all the vibrations line up into one bigger one. Maybe the chain is too tight. I don't know, its too dam hard to adjust it right. The adjusters suck so bad. Lubed it up today. I'll see how that goes.

It also seems to have that plug problem again, but this time its not bad enough for me to do anything about it yet. I'll pull the plug and pop in a spare and see if that is actually the problem.

I am going to really keep my eyes on those new 400cc bikes coming in. If they are an improvement on the quality by an order of magnitude. I'll be tracking one down. I haven't become rich yet, so Chinabike are going to be my diet for awhile. My bike is a bit too small for the riding I need to do.

Ironfist: I thought I was going to get a few days for a holiday. No luck. Work just piled in. I will drop a line when I can come up for air.

theENIGMATIC: Maybe we can have a bon fire! :)

One more thing. I found out where everybody seems to hang out on this site; the miscellaneous thread. See you guys there.

(Free Tip of the Day: If anyone wants a free spell checker to check your posts before you embarrass yourselves, look this up: http://www.iespell.com/index.htm)

[theENIGMATIC]

LOL.BONFIRE AHOY....
I removed all rear brake components...no sign of leake after spraying with brake cleaner.....only thing is one piston seems pushed out further than the other......possibly crystalized fluid in behind preventing it from closing.my bro is coming over to remove them and re-install.hopefully thats the prob......hopefully you get your bike up to par...its not just a China bike thing all the maintenance.....I saw a KTM almost get smoked yesterday because its brake light went out and the guy was kick starting after it stalled at a green light??? 8O

[IronFist]

Yes a spell checker would quicken my pace a lot, zack. :oops:


Proper maintenance is the key on that one enigmatic friend.
I'm not going to explain what I've been doing wrong when I tune up my bike, lets just say that I've got a lot of learning to do. I'm looking forward to setting it up properly, it should get it running even better :twisted: . But right now I'm sitting in the corner with a dunce cap on, kicking myself. :oops:

[theENIGMATIC]

LOL.Ironfist.Im sure your doing alot better than me.lol.......
The sad thing is that no matter what these bikes are just mortals......you can fix them and ride them but sooner or later something is going to go that you just cant replace.hopefully that doesnt happen anytime soon.or there is a boom in replacement parts! :roll:

[Brainsquishy]

So on Friday morning I'm WOT at 120kph up the Hwy 400, just passed 3000km on the OD when the vibs get worse than normal, so I pull over for a roadside inspection. Can't find anything wrong so I start up again and get about 100yrds when the rear wheel jumps to the right.
I get to the side of the road again and look for the issue.
A sheared swing arm bolt!
It had sheared at the nut and pulled out about 3/4".
So I forced the rear end around to align the hole with the bolt and drove it in where it held by a fraction of an inch. Just enough to allow me to limp back into town (4km) along the side of the highway.

I have always been nervous about the bolts on this flimsy rig, but didn't think it would happen to me. So I will now go through the process of replacing ALL of them. I am not going to leave my family without a father because of this cheap chinese junk. (no pun intended).
I'm sure they are laughing their a$$e$ off at me now!

Careful out there all you HSUN, VIVA and SunL riders!

[alonzo]

I am just glad you had the sence to pull it over 8O yes, there is a few things on this bike that can create a catastrophic failure and I belive that is definatly one. Hope you are back and riding the new and improved horse soon.

[red2003]

I know the Viva's had some problems breaking swingarm bolts a while back too. For sure that is NOT a good one to lose. Another good reason for a pre-ride check everytime you swing your leg over the seat!

[elroyjetsn]

I'm meeting dagger tomorrow, downtown Toronto, but he doesn't have a bike here. I still haven't gone for a ride with anyone. :cry:

Pick a day and I'll be there. If the weather sucks we can re-book. Even if it's for an hour, it would be very cool just to meet a chinarider :o Sounds like you've been working too hard anyway, a ride on highway 7 can clear a mind very quickly.

Iron,

Know the feeling. Still have yet to ride with another soul after so many months and almost 5000km. :(

Squishy,

My Hsun has been trouble free. Suppose that many issues have to do with highway usage. 3/4 of my riding has been at 35-40mph. That's probably the kind of riding the Chinese build their bikes for.

These bikes aren't highway bikes -guess that's what i'm trying to say. Which is fine if you can make your routes avoid the freeways as i'm able to do. You can go anywhere you want in WV and never break 45mph top speed.

IMO it's a lot more enjoyable that way. Beautiful countryside is everywhere!! :D

[Brainsquishy]

Thanks guys.
I would equate the swing arm bolt with the bolt(s) that hold the blades on a helicopter. 8O

I pulled the broken bolt out today and found that the bolt didn't have a trace of grease on it, even though there is a grease fitting mounted there for it. I think this bolt was possibly compromised because of that. Being that it is supposed to be lubricated. Just a thought.
The new one will be lubed.

I also pulled most of the engine mount bolts and use the polyurethane glue on them. I can't believe how sloppy they are in those holes! One of the main lower bolt nuts stripped inside the socket, making it impossible to remove without special measures. Must be that high quality metal again!
Any way, I'll see if that helps drop the vibes.

Oh, and one more thing. The same trip that I lost the swing arm bolt, the right side passenger foot peg fell off. That made me mad too! :x :x :x

[elroyjetsn]

Think part of the problem with the bolts is the nuts they use. They appear to be self-locking. Unfortunately, they bind too tightly sometimes. Trying to LOOSEN one one time and ended up shredding the threads on the bolt like it had seized or something. :?

Might end up replacing them all with castled nuts and hardened steel bolts. :wink:

[theENIGMATIC]

Glad your OK, the bolts on these frustrate me too......one of the reasons I decided not to opt for anymore speed on my HSUN is the lack of control etc.....I feel on the HSUN anyways mechanical performance enhancements are a bit of a no no.I experimented with lighting changes and found that the stock parts work best, I am happy with my headlight mod but required major assistance from my brother a certified mechanic who has lots of experience with bikes, he discoraged me from the sprocket mod, take it easy squish, these are a different type of bike for someone who doesnt mind a little rough ridin'!

[pizzarider]

Thanks guys.
I would equate the swing arm bolt with the bolt(s) that hold the blades on a helicopter. 8O

I pulled the broken bolt out today and found that the bolt didn't have a trace of grease on it, even though there is a grease fitting mounted there for it. I think this bolt was possibly compromised because of that. Being that it is supposed to be lubricated. Just a thought.
The new one will be lubed.

I also pulled most of the engine mount bolts and use the polyurethane glue on them. I can't believe how sloppy they are in those holes! One of the main lower bolt nuts stripped inside the socket, making it impossible to remove without special measures. Must be that high quality metal again!
Any way, I'll see if that helps drop the vibes.

Oh, and one more thing. The same trip that I lost the swing arm bolt, the right side passenger foot peg fell off. That made me mad too! :x :x :x

My right side passenger foot peg fell off too and I know of another HSUN owner who's R side ft peg fell off. So weird! Can SOMEONE please post a picture of this "grease fitting" on their swing arm? I need to grease mine but don't know what to look for. Thanks! -Cory

[Brainsquishy]

I'll get that to you tomorrow. (pic) but its right on the top of the sleeve the swing arm bolt goes through. Looks like nipple. I have 5000 of them in a box beside the bike right now.

I guess that since this is the first bike I have ever driven, I seem to push it to its limits.
The new bolt I got was a touch too big in diameter, so I had a buddy turn it down in his machine shop today. Fits nice now.
I needed the assistance of two employees to line up the holes for insertion though.
Drive test tomorrow.

[tigertamer]

Beautiful countryside is everywhere!! :D

Amen, Brother :wink:

Montani Semper Liberi,
Tigertamer

[IronFist]

I guess that since this is the first bike I have ever driven, I seem to push it to its limits.
Squish

It always suprized me that for so many members a chinabike is not their first and/or only ride. Because of the price of Canadian bikes and insurance, I thought there would be more first time riders riding chinabikes. I thought that Squishy and I would be the norm. Good on you Squishy, keeping a chinabike on the road yourself, as a new rider, is tough. It is extra work to keep a safe chinabike. A lot of new riders (here) buy brand new sports bikes. They don't know about mantainance, even for their japanese bikes, and don't really want to know. The habits you pick up owning a chinabike as a first bike will do you good for the rest of your riding life. My hat goes off to Squishy. Good on you man. I know the learning curve that you have climbed. :wink:

[theENIGMATIC]

Exactly Iron, a brand new KLR would be a breeze after riding the China bike, get the most out of your bike though Squish they are not all that bad once you get the hang of it!

[pizzarider]

I'll get that to you tomorrow. (pic) but its right on the top of the sleeve the swing arm bolt goes through. Looks like nipple. I have 5000 of them in a box beside the bike right now.

I guess that since this is the first bike I have ever driven, I seem to push it to its limits.
The new bolt I got was a touch too big in diameter, so I had a buddy turn it down in his machine shop today. Fits nice now.
I needed the assistance of two employees to line up the holes for insertion though.
Drive test tomorrow.

Thanks a bunch! -Cory

[pizzarider]

That metal sort of nipple looking thing on the top of the swing arm sleeve, center of bike? How do I get the grease into the fitting/nipple? If I need a grease gun what type size should I get? Thanks guys! -Cory

[liverchip]

Should be a standard automotive grease gun.

[pizzarider]

Ok I got the grease gun but the grease fitting on my bike is in a awkward position. It is pointing straight up in the center of the swing arm sleeve directly behind the rear suspension. I think I need to get a grease fitting that aims to either side so my grease gun will connect to it. -Cory

[katoranger]

You can buy them at auto parts stores or hardware stores with different orientations. They just thread in like a screw.

I replaced mine with an angled one.

Allen

[Brainsquishy]

Hey pizzarider, that is the one I was talking about, but the guys already said that. The fitting is not at a very good angle. Putting an angled one in will be the best option to allow for greasing.

[pizzarider]

awesome! Thanks guys! Up to 1187 miles. Using that Roketa T Full Synthetic Oil. Bought my grease gun today, just need to get a new grease fitting with an angle. -Cory

[katoranger]

Thats great. Keep putting on the miles.

Allen

[pizzarider]

You can buy them at auto parts stores or hardware stores with different orientations. They just thread in like a screw.

I replaced mine with an angled one.

Allen

Kato when you replaced your grease fitting, what size did it end up being? Just need to know cause I went to Auto Zone and we couldnt find the right size for the HSUN's fitting. Need to know what size ratchett and what size grease fitting. Thanks! -Cory

[katoranger]

8mm is sticking in my head. That was a while back and I don't remember exactly.

Allen

[pizzarider]

8mm is sticking in my head. That was a while back and I don't remember exactly.

Allen

Will you do me a favor when you get time? Will you try to find out what size wrench fits your fitting? We spent 30 min at autozone taking wrench after wrench out of the package just to find one that would take my grease fitting out. None would fit. With the size I can call around to find the right size wrench. Thanks -Cory

[katoranger]

I would think it is a 8,9, or 10mm wrench, but may be a 5/16" wrench.

I will take a look to find out. I remember it was tough to get too it.

Allen

[pizzarider]

I would think it is a 8,9, or 10mm wrench, but may be a 5/16" wrench.

I will take a look to find out. I remember it was tough to get too it.

Allen

I went out to my garage and used the smallest wrench that came in the "tool kit" but even that was too big. -Cory

[DDG1976]

Probably going to be 1/4 inch.

[pizzarider]

Probably going to be 1/4 inch.

May be. -Cory

[VinceDrake]

If it Helps, on both my machines, the grease nipplicles were all 7mm. Usually, the Straight fittings only come in Standard size, 5/16 (Or 8mm) or Metrific 7mm. 7mm wrenches for some reason don't come in most kits...

Hope it helps...
--Vince

[Brainsquishy]

Broke my speedo cable while riding in a field of very long grass with my 4yr old. I think that because there in no front fork speedo cable retainer bracket on these HSUN bikes, the grass bent the cable back far enough that it broke the spinning cable inside the sheath.

I will look for a replacement.

Watch out for long grass.

[elroyjetsn]

Got tired of the matt finish on the Viva and put gloss lacquer spray over the panels. Come to find out a ground wire was shorting against a red wire and the bare wire was showing thru the insulation and the 2 wires were in the process of fusing together.

Never seemed to make the bike misbehave??? :roll:

[tigertamer]

Never seemed to make the bike misbehave??? :roll:

...Yet :twisted:

Glad you found it, before it found you :!:

Way to go,
Tigertamer

[elroyjetsn]

Never seemed to make the bike misbehave??? :roll:

...Yet :twisted:

Glad you found it, before it found you :!:

Tigertamer

You and me too!!

Noticed that there are 2 rubber bumpers under the seat that support the weight of the rider pretty much. The wires had worked their way under one of them and caused the short. Appearantly anyway.

On the plus side. I took the panels off and the fenders and tank fairing off. Gave them a really thorough cleaning with mineral spirits and acetone(which dissolved the 200 decal on one side) :oops:

Sprayed on some Plasticote clear lacquer on top of the paint and decals. Wow, suddenly my dingy Viva looked like a sparkling new machine just off the showroom! :D

Now a simple wipedown after a ride and she should look beautiful again. Still need to do the headlight fairing. May add some accents to it or do it in red/white twotone.. :wink:

[Brainsquishy]

Clutch problem started.

The lever doesn't engage all the way out on its' own accord. I need to finish the release by pushing the rest of the way (last inch) with the backs of my fingers.

I did oil this cable at about 200km and it doesn't "seem" to be binding. I am using too thin oil in the engine though. I will try changing the oil to the regular one I used before I put this 5W40 in it and see if that fixes it. If not, any suggestions?

Could the clutch springs be shot?
I would likely order from http://www.motosportsparts.com unless there is a better place.

[elroyjetsn]

Did the tall grass that took out the speedo cable also kink your clutch cable?

[Brainsquishy]

hmmmm...
Good question.
I will now go and check... 8O

[Brainsquishy]

Checked the clutch cable and it seemed to be fine.
I did however change the black sludge in the engine, I mean the oil. (ahum)
With the new oil the lever is almost back to full return. I made a few passes up and down the street to test it. I think after a longer trip, it should be OK.

whew!

Thanks elroyjetsn.

[elroyjetsn]

Checked the clutch cable and it seemed to be fine.
I did however change the black sludge in the engine, I mean the oil. (ahum)
With the new oil the lever is almost back to full return. I made a few passes up and down the street to test it. I think after a longer trip, it should be OK.

whew!

Thanks elroyjetsn.

Cool, nice work! Squishy!! :)

How's the screen looking?

My clutch seems sluggish to engage sometimes, too. Cheap cable may have too much resistance inside??

[Brainsquishy]

Thanks, but...
what screen! Where do i find this screen?

[DDG1976]

Left side of the motor if you are sitting on the bike. Just behind the shift lever, If you got a tool kit with the bike there should be a wrench in there that fits. Otherwise just use an adjustable wrench. The screen has a spring on top of it to hold it in, just take out the spring and the metal screen, and clean them good with a solvent.

[Brainsquishy]

Lots of time to find that screen now. Snapped my swingarm bolt again.

[Brainsquishy]

Oh and one more thing broke...

The muffler is tearing away from the bracket that holds it to the frame. Two large rips, one on each side of the bracket.
I suppose I'll need to wrap it up with carbon fibre and epoxy.

Will this ever end? I think the HSUN is the bottom feeder of Chinabikes!

[Brainsquishy]

OK, I fixed my HSUN 200GY!

http://www.chinariders.net/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=10104

http://www.chinariders.net/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=10109

The best mod so far! This thing is a rocket now! :twisted:

[DDG1976]

OK, I fixed my HSUN 200GY!

http://www.chinariders.net/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=10104

http://www.chinariders.net/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=10109

The best mod so far! This thing is a rocket now! :twisted:

Blasphemy!!!!!, LOL. Looks like a nice bike.

[tigertamer]

Makes me want to don the ol' Evil Knievel hat :wink:

Let us know your regrets! LOL

Be safe,
Tigertamer

[zombietuesday]

HI .. I have one of these bikes .. so far so good, im just halfway through changing the sprockets from 17 - 56 to 17 - 42

im a newb .. the rear wheel axle doesnt have any lube on it .. should it be lubricated before i put it back together ?

Many Thanks !

[theENIGMATIC]

Nice machine, one of my favourites for sure.Im sure the KLR will meet your expectations.....hopefully you get some good cash for your HSUN TOO......cheers! :lol:

[Brainsquishy]

Nice machine, one of my favourites for sure. I'm sure the KLR will meet your expectations.....hopefully you get some good cash for your HSUN TOO......cheers! :lol:

I'm not sure if I'm done with the Chinabike yet. For sure I'm not done with this forum and you guys. I like it here.
My brother In-law is pawing over the idea of taking it on. If he does bite, I will be posting a s usual, because I don't think he can turn a wrench.

I keep getting told the KLR is "heavy", but it can't be that much more... is it? I know the power is exhilarating!

and lastly, yes, I am a rampant blasphemer!
No religion here, just pure science and reason.

[pizzarider]

HI .. I have one of these bikes .. so far so good, im just halfway through changing the sprockets from 17 - 56 to 17 - 42

im a newb .. the rear wheel axle doesnt have any lube on it .. should it be lubricated before i put it back together ?

Many Thanks !

It is always good to grease/lube any moving parts. I would focus on bearings and spacers but like I and many on here, lubricate everything.

-Cory

[zombietuesday]

cool thanks :)

[zombietuesday]

actually .. best thing to use ?

axle grease?

[Brainsquishy]

OK, for real this time... I fixed my Chinabike. Well, mostly.
Since I picked up my KLR650, I have convinced my brother-inlaw to take on the HSUN 200GY. I will retain ownership and he will come in under my insurance. That saves a ton of cash.

So the fixes so far are a follows.
These are the latest round I mean, not a cumulative total.

New stainless steel swing arm bolt with lock nut and two washers. I will drill a small hole through the end after the nut and put a cotter pin in it just to be sure. We had to drill out the bushing to get the 1/2" x 9" bolt to fit. Thanks for that suggestion katoranger.
We greased it before insertion but will pump in through the hard to reach nipple soon.

Reinforced all the plastic side panels and rear fender holes with epoxy and carbon fibre fabric. This worked very well to repair the fractures and the destroyed holes for the panel bolts.

Re-attached both the rear panel mounting flanges that hold on the side panels and the rear carrier and the rear fender. Use epoxy and carbon fibre strips which wrap around the flange and frame twice. Even if they break, they will still be held in place.

New throttle tube/grip and associated starter switch clamp/mount. We didn't use the new clamp as it fit into the old one, but the new throttle allows for 1/4" more roll in the throttle. We will need to see if that redlines the engine. If it does we will need to put in a shim to prevent it from rolling too far.

Can't seem to find a speedo cable yet so we will install a digital bicycle one I picked up a couple of weeks ago for $15.00 until we get that.

The ripped muffler has been "repaired". I put two large hose clamps around it and included an 6" galvanized nail in the right spot to provide structural support to the bracket. I then used the putty in the muffler repair kit I bought at Canadian Tire and cut the supplied screen to reinforce and seal the tears next to the bracket. Then I wrapped the clamps with the muffler bandage just because.
Painted it all black with high temp barbecue paint after I ran the bike for 30 minute to cook the putty and set the tape. I think it should be fine for a while.

Added a spring to the clutch lever at the engine to pull it back completely.

We will need to cut down the seat so he can touch the ground while sitting. He is a little vertically challenged.

I will add the pics later on.

[elroyjetsn]

Have been thinking of reinforcing all my plastics with carbon fibre as well. Just need to find a kit. :wink:

My speedo drive just died- had been slipping for a few days. Hope it's just the metal tabs being bent out and not engaging the hub. For while, while it was starting to slip a little it was reading the same as the cyclocomputer. :)

[DDG1976]

My speedo did the same thing, I just pulled the cable loose at the hub, greased it and put it back making sure the tab aligned with the slot in the hub, no problems since ( other than it reading 4 miles per hour slow).

[elroyjetsn]

Think when putting the bike together initially that the tabs that engage the hub weren't lined up properly. They were bent down pretty bad. Took it all apart and washed the parts, straightened out the tabs nicely and regreased everything.

[katoranger]

Let us know how the 1/2" bolt with the drilled bushings works out.

Allen

[Brainsquishy]

The drilled out bushing was definitely the way to go. It did take two people to do it because we had to keep the parts in line.
The bolt is working well.

I removed the spring I had added to the clutch lever at the engine. It seems that the bracket the cable mounts on at the engine was bent out of alignment since day one. I straightened it and it seems to work fine now. Just need to tweak it ever so slightly to get it shifting just right.

I put the bike together completely today and took it for a spin. It feels good. Less vibes with that new bolt in the exhaust. I found there was bolt missing behind the header/muffer pipes come together.There was never a bolt in there from assembly.
The rear rack feels tight and sturdy with the carbon fibre reinforcing. Pizzarider, you need to do that one.
The carbon fibre reinforced plastic is all good as well.
The modded seat is installed as well. My brother-inlaw cut it down with a sharp knife then I shaped it smooth and equal on each side with my grinder using an abrasive disk. I stapled the seat cover on then re-installed the Wal-Mart seat cover I had before. I needed to put the cover on because with the amount removed, the stock vinyl cover didn't fit well. My set up worked well. There is a lot of reduction in height. My wife sits on it very comfortably and I’m flat footed on it now. (6'1", 32" inseam)

I can't get the magnet that came with the bicycle speedo to mount on the spoke. Its slot is too narrow. I dremeled it wider and left enough of the thread for the screw to be used to hold it on, but it is still too narrow. I will fully dremel it and JB Weld it on. We will need to get a new speedo cable from somewhere for the stocker to be used again.

I'm going to find some 5/8" white boating rope to jam into the handle bars to dampen the vibes there. I will do that on my KLR650 as well. Heard good reports on that method.

All it needs now is 15 more horsepower! Oh wait, that would likely twist it up like a pretzel!

[pizzarider]

"The rear rack feels tight and sturdy with the carbon fibre reinforcing. Pizzarider, you need to do that one."

Thanks! Good looking out!