Hawk Seat Dillema - Page 2

pcspecialist · 05-11-2016, 04:07 PM

I might try the Coleman Comfort Ride(TM) Seat Protector. Lots of videos of different ways to fasten it. I think I'll cut/break the fasteners off (don't cut the loop they fit into) and then use bungee chord. Add a little extra padding between the dip of the seat and the Coleman.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006JMK7N8

paulesmann · 05-11-2016, 09:07 PM

Good idea

david3921 · 05-14-2016, 12:40 AM

Is the front seat mount welded to the frame? If not, you could try something like this,

http://www.kawasakiversys.com/forums...py-seat-2.html

Check out post 27. Hopefully the pictures will show up. My 2012 Versys was a butt burner until I did this mod. It raises the front of the seat a 1/2 inch or so. It was so simple and cheap (I already had longer bolts and made the plate out of scrap) and really worked. It's easy to try out before you go and spend money on a new seat.

If your mount is welded to frame you can still try it out by setting the front seat tab on top of the mount, attach the seat normally at the back, and take it for a spin. If it feels better you would have to fab up a different mount on top of the existing one somehow.

pcspecialist · 05-18-2016, 04:08 PM

In case you missed it, I got the Coleman Comfort Ride(TM) Seat Protector:
http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=16636

You could swing by and check it out to see if it's something that might work for you.

BTraveler · 12-29-2017, 10:27 PM

I know this may not help:

I always think it's funny when dual sport riders complain about seat comfort. I'm new to the sport but I have about 38 years experience on bicycles - road, mountain and touring. Seat comfort on the worst motorcycle is plush and luxurious to me. In December of 2017 I rode several hundred miles around Costa Rica on a Honda CFR230 with bicycle bags draped across the seat. It was a wonderful muddy mess. The seat felt like a Lazy Boy compared to a hardtail MTB.

Musictrek · 12-29-2017, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BTraveler

I know this may not help:

I always think it's funny when dual sport riders complain about seat comfort. I'm new to the sport but I have about 38 years experience on bicycles - road, mountain and touring. Seat comfort on the worst motorcycle is plush and luxurious to me. In December of 2017 I rode several hundred miles around Costa Rica on a Honda CFR230 with bicycle bags draped across the seat. It was a wonderful muddy mess. The seat felt like a Lazy Boy compared to a hardtail MTB.

my friends in Razors complain about getting beatup in the car. The Hawk is so soft. maybe too soft but Ive never complained about a hard ride. I just fall down off the bike that hurts.

Megadan · 12-30-2017, 12:09 AM

The Hawk seat itself isn't actually that uncomfortable. It's the shape of the seat that many are complaining about here, including myself. The CRF230 seat is more level front to back, but the Hawk seat has a cutout/saddle shape, and the rear part of the seat cut-off where it dips down is in a goofy spot for some of us. A growing trend with Hawk owners is to cut down that step to help even out the seat, otherwise it puts you in an uncomfortable positon that you are more or less locked in.

BlackBike · 12-30-2017, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Musictrek

my friends in Razors complain about getting beatup in the car. The Hawk is so soft. maybe too soft but Ive never complained about a hard ride. I just fall down off the bike that hurts.

Be careful out there my friend...we want new adventures for 2018! It's not how fast, but what you've seen.

BlackBike · 12-30-2017, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megadan

The Hawk seat itself isn't actually that uncomfortable. It's the shape of the seat that many are complaining about here, including myself. The CRF230 seat is more level front to back, but the Hawk seat has a cutout/saddle shape, and the rear part of the seat cut-off where it dips down is in a goofy spot for some of us. A growing trend with Hawk owners is to cut down that step to help even out the seat, otherwise it puts you in an uncomfortable positon that you are more or less locked in.

Little too close for the goodies megadan?

Megadan · 12-30-2017, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackBike

Little too close for the goodies megadan?

It can be sometimes. Not so bad on smooth roads lol

timcosby · 12-30-2017, 11:32 PM

i think the hawk seat is the most uncomfortable seat i have ever ridden. after an hour i slide back on top of the passenger part! im thinking of getting a harley seat cheap that someone has taken off and bungee it to the hawk if i go long distance anymore! might look like hell but it will be comfy.

Megadan · 12-31-2017, 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timcosby

i think the hawk seat is the most uncomfortable seat i have ever ridden. after an hour i slide back on top of the passenger part! im thinking of getting a harley seat cheap that someone has taken off and bungee it to the hawk if i go long distance anymore! might look like hell but it will be comfy.

I think just replacing the foam with something more firm, and reshaping that area with the ridge would make the biggest difference. The Hawk seat suffers from a lot of "too soft" issues for many riders.

I would say even replacing the top layer with some Luimoto gold gel would likely help a lot, if it wasn't so pricey.

elevatorman · 01-02-2018, 11:50 AM

I didn't care for the stock Hawk 250 seat either but decided to try the seat from a TT250 purchased from CSC. It is much better but not for short people as is
raises the seat height considerably. It was a good trade off for me as I need the
leg room also.

05-11-2016, 09:07 PM	#17
paulesmann Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 76	Good idea __________________ Paul Mann 2015 Haosen Hawk 1989 Kawasaki EX500 1991 Suzuki DR350
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05-14-2016, 12:40 AM	#18
david3921 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,031	Is the front seat mount welded to the frame? If not, you could try something like this, http://www.kawasakiversys.com/forums...py-seat-2.html Check out post 27. Hopefully the pictures will show up. My 2012 Versys was a butt burner until I did this mod. It raises the front of the seat a 1/2 inch or so. It was so simple and cheap (I already had longer bolts and made the plate out of scrap) and really worked. It's easy to try out before you go and spend money on a new seat. If your mount is welded to frame you can still try it out by setting the front seat tab on top of the mount, attach the seat normally at the back, and take it for a spin. If it feels better you would have to fab up a different mount on top of the existing one somehow. __________________ 2012 Kawasaki Versys 1984 Honda Magna V65 2016 Rhino 250 2016 Tao Tao 125D
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12-29-2017, 10:27 PM	#20
BTraveler Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 1	Seat comfort is relative to experience I know this may not help: I always think it's funny when dual sport riders complain about seat comfort. I'm new to the sport but I have about 38 years experience on bicycles - road, mountain and touring. Seat comfort on the worst motorcycle is plush and luxurious to me. In December of 2017 I rode several hundred miles around Costa Rica on a Honda CFR230 with bicycle bags draped across the seat. It was a wonderful muddy mess. The seat felt like a Lazy Boy compared to a hardtail MTB.
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12-30-2017, 12:09 AM	#22
Megadan Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 8,030	The Hawk seat itself isn't actually that uncomfortable. It's the shape of the seat that many are complaining about here, including myself. The CRF230 seat is more level front to back, but the Hawk seat has a cutout/saddle shape, and the rear part of the seat cut-off where it dips down is in a goofy spot for some of us. A growing trend with Hawk owners is to cut down that step to help even out the seat, otherwise it puts you in an uncomfortable positon that you are more or less locked in. __________________ Hawk Information and Resource guide: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=20331 2018 Hawk 250 - Full Mod list here. http://www.chinariders.net/showpost....62&postcount=1 2024 Royal Enfield Shotgun 650 https://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=34124
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12-30-2017, 11:32 PM	#26
timcosby Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: robertsdale alabama usa Posts: 1,007	i think the hawk seat is the most uncomfortable seat i have ever ridden. after an hour i slide back on top of the passenger part! im thinking of getting a harley seat cheap that someone has taken off and bungee it to the hawk if i go long distance anymore! might look like hell but it will be comfy. __________________ 1991 harley heritage softail classic 2016 hawk kaw h1 400 tripple 13' long chopper in progress 2009 johnny pag bar hog 2004 hd electra glide ultra classic shriner edition 1997 harley davidson 1200 sportster 1972 harley davidson amf sx250
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05-11-2016, 04:07 PM	#16
pcspecialist Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 583	I might try the Coleman Comfort Ride(TM) Seat Protector. Lots of videos of different ways to fasten it. I think I'll cut/break the fasteners off (don't cut the loop they fit into) and then use bungee chord. Add a little extra padding between the dip of the seat and the Coleman. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006JMK7N8
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05-18-2016, 04:08 PM	#19
pcspecialist Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 583	In case you missed it, I got the Coleman Comfort Ride(TM) Seat Protector: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=16636 You could swing by and check it out to see if it's something that might work for you.
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01-02-2018, 11:50 AM	#28
elevatorman Join Date: May 2017 Location: knoxville, tn Posts: 25	I didn't care for the stock Hawk 250 seat either but decided to try the seat from a TT250 purchased from CSC. It is much better but not for short people as is raises the seat height considerably. It was a good trade off for me as I need the leg room also.
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