Hawk CDI upgrade question

jfeliciano15 · 05-27-2017, 10:51 AM

Has anyone done a CDI upgrade on the Hawk 250 and if so what CDI unit did you get? Also was it plug and play or did you have to do some wiring reconfiguration?

kirbo7106 · 05-27-2017, 10:41 PM

I was looking into that too. Most of the name brand companies are to expensive and I don`t think that they make a model for our Chinese bikes. I did see one for a Chinese moped/scooter and it was fairly cheap. Keep us posted if you find something that works.

hertz9753 · 05-28-2017, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jfeliciano15

Has anyone done a CDI upgrade on the Hawk 250 and if so what CDI unit did you get? Also was it plug and play or did you have to do some wiring reconfiguration?

Some people have tried but it didn't work out.

BigWeld · 05-28-2017, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by hertz9753

Some people have tried but it didn't work out.

Yeah, I remember reading that not only is the timing retarded too far in those cheaper units for easy starting, but it's benefits are barely worth the trouble of installing it. Trouble is (I think) that it's not variable. What I mean is, your timing needs to change at different rpm for maximum performance, but these cheap chi units can't physically do it and even if they could, they're not adjustable

mjstef · 05-28-2017, 10:45 AM

Not worth it. Mine went in the garbage.................

jfeliciano15 · 05-28-2017, 08:31 PM

Thanks for all the feed back and I will let you guys know if I find a way of making this happen. Enjoy the holiday!

kirbo7106 · 05-30-2017, 08:34 AM

Here's a link to the cdi unit that I was looking at:

https://www.vmcchineseparts.com/coll...nce-version-43

I haven't looked to see what plug configuration our Hawks have.

Keep us posted on what you find out.

**JerryHawk250** · 05-30-2017, 08:55 AM

A programmable CDI will be the best one to get if you can get one. I've been trying to get this one but having a hard time getting any information on availability or cost. http://www.dansgaragetalk.com/topic/...-time-mapping/

Additional Info- I found where to buy the programmable CDI for under $85. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Digi...e-dc34455d668e

kirbo7106 · 05-30-2017, 10:55 AM

The CDI that JerryHawk250 was looking at is a better unit. The one I was looking at is more like an MSD Ignition box.

**JerryHawk250** · 05-30-2017, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by kirbo7106

The CDI that JerryHawk250 was looking at is a better unit. The one I was looking at is more like an MSD Ignition box.

The programmable CDI would be the best way to go. I'm holding off on buying this one because I'm planning on doing the EFI system later on after the summer which already is programmable. You basically copy and burn the information from your stock cdi and adjust timing from there.

Edit: will not work. DC CDI. Hawk requires AC CDI

kirbo7106 · 05-30-2017, 12:13 PM

JerryHawk250...tell us about this EFI you speak of! This isn't one of those EFI systems that cost more than the Hawk itself is it?

joker · 05-30-2017, 01:08 PM

Hello all I'm trying to find some info on upgrading my 2016 brozz. the carb, rear drum, a battery (mine won't hold a charge) and also an exhaust with a new header. My bike currently has 560 miles and climbing. No issues so far with the bike, although I've had to adjust the valves about 4 times and the battery not working.

**JerryHawk250** · 05-30-2017, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kirbo7106

JerryHawk250...tell us about this EFI you speak of! This isn't one of those EFI systems that cost more than the Hawk itself is it?

There about $235 + shipping https://www.aliexpress.com/item/micr...ddresstype=600

kirbo7106 · 05-30-2017, 08:27 PM

Hey JerryHawk250,

When you start your EFI conversion, you will have to start a new thread/post...with lots of pictures! You should start the thread/post when you place the order.

jfeliciano15 · 05-30-2017, 08:43 PM

If you do the EFI conversion then turbo should be doable.

05-27-2017, 10:51 AM	#1
jfeliciano15 Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 35	Hawk CDI upgrade question Has anyone done a CDI upgrade on the Hawk 250 and if so what CDI unit did you get? Also was it plug and play or did you have to do some wiring reconfiguration?
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05-27-2017, 10:41 PM	#2
kirbo7106 Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Holiday, Florida Posts: 672	I was looking into that too. Most of the name brand companies are to expensive and I don`t think that they make a model for our Chinese bikes. I did see one for a Chinese moped/scooter and it was fairly cheap. Keep us posted if you find something that works. __________________ Dan-O -2018 Tao Tao HellCat - DOA -2016 Hawk 250 - Kitty Hawk - eBay exhaust, Mikuni carb(120 main/30 Pilot), airbox mod with K&N filter, digital cluster, total LEDs, 17/45 sprockets, RK chain, Shinko 244 tires, trunk, aftermarket levers, burrito tube, skid plate, Sargent Cycle Seat... -2003 HD Sportster 100th Anniversary -1999 Buell X-1 Lightning - Race kit, Buell Seat
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05-30-2017, 08:34 AM	#7
kirbo7106 Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Holiday, Florida Posts: 672	Here's a link to the cdi unit that I was looking at: https://www.vmcchineseparts.com/coll...nce-version-43 I haven't looked to see what plug configuration our Hawks have. Keep us posted on what you find out. __________________ Dan-O -2018 Tao Tao HellCat - DOA -2016 Hawk 250 - Kitty Hawk - eBay exhaust, Mikuni carb(120 main/30 Pilot), airbox mod with K&N filter, digital cluster, total LEDs, 17/45 sprockets, RK chain, Shinko 244 tires, trunk, aftermarket levers, burrito tube, skid plate, Sargent Cycle Seat... -2003 HD Sportster 100th Anniversary -1999 Buell X-1 Lightning - Race kit, Buell Seat
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05-30-2017, 08:55 AM	#8
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,574	A programmable CDI will be the best one to get if you can get one. I've been trying to get this one but having a hard time getting any information on availability or cost. http://www.dansgaragetalk.com/topic/...-time-mapping/ Additional Info- I found where to buy the programmable CDI for under $85. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Digi...e-dc34455d668e __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel Last edited by JerryHawk250; 05-30-2017 at 01:20 PM. Reason: Found where to buy
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05-30-2017, 10:55 AM	#9
kirbo7106 Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Holiday, Florida Posts: 672	The CDI that JerryHawk250 was looking at is a better unit. The one I was looking at is more like an MSD Ignition box. __________________ Dan-O -2018 Tao Tao HellCat - DOA -2016 Hawk 250 - Kitty Hawk - eBay exhaust, Mikuni carb(120 main/30 Pilot), airbox mod with K&N filter, digital cluster, total LEDs, 17/45 sprockets, RK chain, Shinko 244 tires, trunk, aftermarket levers, burrito tube, skid plate, Sargent Cycle Seat... -2003 HD Sportster 100th Anniversary -1999 Buell X-1 Lightning - Race kit, Buell Seat
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05-28-2017, 10:45 AM	#5
mjstef Join Date: May 2007 Location: Lac Du Flambeau, WI Posts: 804	Not worth it. Mine went in the garbage.................
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05-28-2017, 08:31 PM	#6
jfeliciano15 Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 35	Thanks for all the feed back and I will let you guys know if I find a way of making this happen. Enjoy the holiday!
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05-30-2017, 12:13 PM	#11
kirbo7106 Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Holiday, Florida Posts: 672	Efi JerryHawk250...tell us about this EFI you speak of! This isn't one of those EFI systems that cost more than the Hawk itself is it? __________________ Dan-O -2018 Tao Tao HellCat - DOA -2016 Hawk 250 - Kitty Hawk - eBay exhaust, Mikuni carb(120 main/30 Pilot), airbox mod with K&N filter, digital cluster, total LEDs, 17/45 sprockets, RK chain, Shinko 244 tires, trunk, aftermarket levers, burrito tube, skid plate, Sargent Cycle Seat... -2003 HD Sportster 100th Anniversary -1999 Buell X-1 Lightning - Race kit, Buell Seat
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05-30-2017, 01:08 PM	#12
joker Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: queensbury NY Posts: 25	Having trouble finding brozz upgrades Hello all I'm trying to find some info on upgrading my 2016 brozz. the carb, rear drum, a battery (mine won't hold a charge) and also an exhaust with a new header. My bike currently has 560 miles and climbing. No issues so far with the bike, although I've had to adjust the valves about 4 times and the battery not working.
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05-30-2017, 08:27 PM	#14
kirbo7106 Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Holiday, Florida Posts: 672	Hey JerryHawk250, When you start your EFI conversion, you will have to start a new thread/post...with lots of pictures! You should start the thread/post when you place the order. __________________ Dan-O -2018 Tao Tao HellCat - DOA -2016 Hawk 250 - Kitty Hawk - eBay exhaust, Mikuni carb(120 main/30 Pilot), airbox mod with K&N filter, digital cluster, total LEDs, 17/45 sprockets, RK chain, Shinko 244 tires, trunk, aftermarket levers, burrito tube, skid plate, Sargent Cycle Seat... -2003 HD Sportster 100th Anniversary -1999 Buell X-1 Lightning - Race kit, Buell Seat
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05-30-2017, 08:43 PM	#15
jfeliciano15 Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 35	If you do the EFI conversion then turbo should be doable.
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