Ssr xf250 - Page 10

BlackBike · 09-17-2017, 11:01 PM

Dh...i like this photo of the tire vs the looming cactus in the background

dh · 09-18-2017, 03:15 PM

1CW, I have a 2013 I bought new in 2014. It is mostly stock aside from jetting, punching holes in the stock air cleaner and exhaust, and changing the front 15 tooth sprocket for a 16 tooth.

According to the stock speedo which is pretty accurate, I have had the bike up to 80 once or twice in good weather. I can get the bike up to 65 in time to merge onto the freeway, and it cruises well at 68-70mph @6200-6400 rpms; gas mileage is so so (about 55 mpg) and I still have a little power in reserve to pass etc. Going over local mountains I can typically climb the 6% grades at around 60-65.

2LZ · 09-18-2017, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dh

So I just did my first front tire change, the old Kenda 244 was toast! Too easy, never paying to have tires changed again. Also, the original rotor was warped from day one and I decided it was time to change it out and put new front pads which which should have happened a long time ago(odometer reads 11,500 miles right now, probably more like 10,000). I used the Haynes manual which was great, but I have a couple unanswered questions.

How much to torque a front axle? I have it at 40 ft/lbs right now.

What is a good tire pressure for mostly street riding? I have been running about 20psi and I feel like my front tires are wearing out way to fast.

Also, the new front brakes are really smooth on a quick test ride, but I really have to pull hard on the brake lever. Should new brakes grip good right away or do I need to do a harder break-in or try bleeding?

If I remember right, it's 35 or 40 pounds. I can look it up tonight. Q has the same forks/axle, etc...

I run my streetable tires around 30 psi. My big bikes I ran at 35.

Your front brake will need to be seated (bedded in). Multiple hard brakings from around 35 mph should do the trick....then let it cool and give them another try.

If you've never changed your brake fluid, probably not a bad idea.

dh · 09-19-2017, 12:05 AM

2LZ thanks! I ended up torquing the axle to 70 pounds before a long ride today thinking it would be better to over tighten than under. I hope the bearings didn't mind.

Blackbike I thought it was cool a cell phone camera could focus on those nobbies. When I looked at the pic of the bike I realized how long I worked on it when I saw a coffee cup and a beer next to the tools.

2LZ · 09-20-2017, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by dh

2LZ thanks! I ended up torquing the axle to 70 pounds before a long ride today thinking it would be better to over tighten than under. I hope the bearings didn't mind.

Blackbike I thought it was cool a cell phone camera could focus on those nobbies. When I looked at the pic of the bike I realized how long I worked on it when I saw a coffee cup and a beer next to the tools.

I would most definitely retorque the axle. I don't run my cars that high. If your axle nut is like mine, it's egg shaped to keep it locked on so ultra-tight isn't needed.

Ok....just found something online for the SSR XF250. The REAR axle torques at 35lbs....so the front should be about the same. I wouldn't go over 40. Your bearings will hate you.

lethalsvt · 10-01-2017, 11:18 PM

I have a 2015 ssr xf250 with about 500 miles on it now. Love the bike! Bone stock, so would like to add some performance parts like a better sounding and performing muffler, air filter and possibly the sigma jet kit.

I can't seem to find the exact muffler to order. I'm having my mechanic install everything. Does anyone have links to where I can get the exact parts? And are these upgrades even necessary? I drive mostly back roads less than 55mph, any maybe a trail here and there. Interested in a better exhaust note, little more pickup, and better mpg. But still maintaining reliability.

Thanks!

dh · 10-03-2017, 06:13 PM

Lethal it's good to have another XF250 owner here. The bike gets better and better as you put some miles on it. I have done modifications to my stock muffler and intake but have not replaced them. I have heard the FMF power core 4 is a good one for this bike. Here is a video below...

These bikes are more popular in other countries like the UK than they are here in the US. You can find aftermarket brake pads and upgrades from this UK site. I recommend getting a Haynes manual from them. User 1cylinderwonder had one listed for sale a while back so maybe check with him.

(https://www.chinesemotorcyclepartson...50GY/XF250GY/0)

culcune · 10-03-2017, 08:11 PM

Contact JP Motorsports out of San Diego; they might still have pipes they had custom made a few years back for these (or could be the 200?)...

https://jpmotorsports.com/

dh · 10-26-2017, 04:58 PM

After 3 years and almost 14,000 miles of riding the Xf 250 I've decided to deal with two of my least favorite aspects of this bike; the poor quality gauges and the tiny headlight. I have been putting a ton of miles on the XF commuting lately and figured it was time to invest in a few things for comfort and safety sake as it is getting darker earlier.

The stock gauges did not include a trip meter, the mini bulbs frequently burnt out, and the odometer always seemed to turn either too fast or too slow making it tough to calculate stops at the gas station. The headlight was ok but the high beam pointed up at the sky and it wasn't adjustable.

The new speedo is a $42 Amazon sourced Universal Grom Style digital LED back lit type. It has an odometer, trip, tach, neutral, gear indicators, and blinker high beam indicators. The backlight color is changeable and it reads in Km or Miles. Install was pretty simple, I had to cut and reconnect all wires with butt connectors. The speed sensor is installed through the fork guard and two magnets are attached to the front rotor. I had some programming issues with it and the odometer/trip did not work initially but after about 60 miles of riding they both fired up and they are very accurate. The speedo is also very accurate.

https://www.amazon.com/Samdo-Univers...al+speedometer

The $24 headlight/fairing also came from Amazon as well and it works OK but mounting is a NIGHTMARE; the light is meant to be mounted right up against the forks using the rubber fork straps; there is no room for a speedometer in between. I re positioned using custom bike inner tube strips and 1/2" irrigation drip line and it fits great! The light housing itself is can be aimed up or down.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The new light was better than stock but still doesn't blow me away so I ordered a set of 18w offroad flood lights from Amazon as well($16/pr). I am not sure how much my stator can handle so as of now I have 1 mounted on the front fender and it puts out good consistent flood light pattern.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I also added a new $10 set of heated hand grips and they work great! So far no issues with the battery charging while running the heated hand grips and about 25 watts going to LED lighting.

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Derekon2s · 12-26-2017, 04:59 PM

DH,

Those gauges look NICE. Are they working well? Responsive? I've been busy dicking with this little Honda XR70, and I recently got a deal on a SSR 125 pitbike for 100 bucks. It's an older model,had to rebuild the carb, needs brake perch and master cylinder for the front, a chain, throttle cable and a couple other things. I finally got all my parts for my XF 250 and think I have my carb adjusted decently. I put in the bigger pilot jet from the Sigma kit and put in a 125 main jet. I was thinking about putting a pod style filter on it, but haven't measure the filter side of the carb to see what size it will take, but don't think i really need that big airbox on it. Been wanting to ride but the high is a balmy 12 degrees here today. lol

Hope everyone had a good xmas!

clark · 12-27-2017, 08:06 AM

I had a Kawasaki dual sport before my current Magician 250. I needed new tires for the Kawa. I ordered the tires on-line, and took them to a local hole-in-the-wall cycle shop for mounting.
The shop "helper" mounted the tires. I had to step in when I saw him using a long handle (24+"?) wrench on the rear axle nuts and gorilla leaning into the wrench to tighten (200ft-lb?)... NO TORQUE wrench in sight. The shop owner (immigrant - and no disrespect intended) seemed mad at me for getting involved and pointing out unknown torque on bolts (they would not let me into the shop bay; I stood at the doorway to the bay)... owner recognized my unknown torque point. Thus shop owner stepped in to properly torque the nuts. (I wonder how many bikes the helper had over-torqued?)
This is why I always shudder at the thought of any of my equipment going into a shop for any repair.
Wouldn't you think something as simple as mounting tires would be trouble free?
If I had not stepped in... something (bearings?) would have been damaged in very short order.

BTW, Dec 27, 2017... and temp expected to be about 80 today. :-)

Derekon2s · 12-28-2017, 09:13 AM

Yea, the high here was 12 yesterday. lol It's supposed to be like -5 this weekend or something. Gonna have to get some more firewood cut! Really been wanting to ride, but in this weather I don't feel like doing shit.

dh · 01-02-2018, 03:08 PM

Derekon great deal on the little pit bike. I tried really hard to find a deal like that for my son's 9th birthday but people never seem to respond to their ads on Craigslist or offerup so I ended up getting him a new Coleman minibike from WalMart. He loves it and I just realized yesterday it uses the same motor I have in my little Champion 1.5kw generator so maintenance is going to be easy.

I am liking the gauges a lot. Wiring was easy and the gauges are very responsive. Mounting was tricky; I ended up using scrap brackets from an old XF seat which worked perfectly. The initial programming was difficult as was a flaw in the speedo programming (I thought I wired it wrong) but the tech support from the Amazon seller (Samdo) was great; I feel like I get better support from their lady in China than I ever did from SSR.

I am having an intermittent problem though. Occasionally the speedo reading will start spiking up and down and then go to 00 while on the highway. This usually happens midway to work (88 miles one way) in an area that is incredibly windy and I pass under high voltage power lines and I would like to find out if the problem is environmental. The seller just sent me a new speed sensor and magnets to try and isolate the problem but I wonder if this is something I will just have to deal with; the seller has offered a replacement but I don't know if I feel like rewiring again.

09-17-2017, 11:01 PM	#136
BlackBike Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: George West, Texas Posts: 4,097	Dh...i like this photo of the tire vs the looming cactus in the background __________________ ***************************************** 2015 Bashan"Blaze" BS250GY-31 (DB-07K-250) GONE 2017 Suzuki V Strom 650 XT "We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." ~Benjamin Franklin~
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09-18-2017, 03:15 PM	#137
dh Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: NW Arkansas Posts: 453	1CW, I have a 2013 I bought new in 2014. It is mostly stock aside from jetting, punching holes in the stock air cleaner and exhaust, and changing the front 15 tooth sprocket for a 16 tooth. According to the stock speedo which is pretty accurate, I have had the bike up to 80 once or twice in good weather. I can get the bike up to 65 in time to merge onto the freeway, and it cruises well at 68-70mph @6200-6400 rpms; gas mileage is so so (about 55 mpg) and I still have a little power in reserve to pass etc. Going over local mountains I can typically climb the 6% grades at around 60-65. __________________ 2013 SSR XF-250
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09-19-2017, 12:05 AM	#139
dh Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: NW Arkansas Posts: 453	2LZ thanks! I ended up torquing the axle to 70 pounds before a long ride today thinking it would be better to over tighten than under. I hope the bearings didn't mind. Blackbike I thought it was cool a cell phone camera could focus on those nobbies. When I looked at the pic of the bike I realized how long I worked on it when I saw a coffee cup and a beer next to the tools. __________________ 2013 SSR XF-250
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10-03-2017, 06:13 PM	#142
dh Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: NW Arkansas Posts: 453	Lethal it's good to have another XF250 owner here. The bike gets better and better as you put some miles on it. I have done modifications to my stock muffler and intake but have not replaced them. I have heard the FMF power core 4 is a good one for this bike. Here is a video below... These bikes are more popular in other countries like the UK than they are here in the US. You can find aftermarket brake pads and upgrades from this UK site. I recommend getting a Haynes manual from them. User 1cylinderwonder had one listed for sale a while back so maybe check with him. (https://www.chinesemotorcyclepartson...50GY/XF250GY/0) __________________ 2013 SSR XF-250
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10-03-2017, 08:11 PM	#143
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,035	Contact JP Motorsports out of San Diego; they might still have pipes they had custom made a few years back for these (or could be the 200?)... https://jpmotorsports.com/ __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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10-01-2017, 11:18 PM	#141
lethalsvt Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 1	I have a 2015 ssr xf250 with about 500 miles on it now. Love the bike! Bone stock, so would like to add some performance parts like a better sounding and performing muffler, air filter and possibly the sigma jet kit. I can't seem to find the exact muffler to order. I'm having my mechanic install everything. Does anyone have links to where I can get the exact parts? And are these upgrades even necessary? I drive mostly back roads less than 55mph, any maybe a trail here and there. Interested in a better exhaust note, little more pickup, and better mpg. But still maintaining reliability. Thanks!
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10-26-2017, 04:58 PM	#144
dh Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: NW Arkansas Posts: 453	my xf250 got a facelift After 3 years and almost 14,000 miles of riding the Xf 250 I've decided to deal with two of my least favorite aspects of this bike; the poor quality gauges and the tiny headlight. I have been putting a ton of miles on the XF commuting lately and figured it was time to invest in a few things for comfort and safety sake as it is getting darker earlier. The stock gauges did not include a trip meter, the mini bulbs frequently burnt out, and the odometer always seemed to turn either too fast or too slow making it tough to calculate stops at the gas station. The headlight was ok but the high beam pointed up at the sky and it wasn't adjustable. The new speedo is a $42 Amazon sourced Universal Grom Style digital LED back lit type. It has an odometer, trip, tach, neutral, gear indicators, and blinker high beam indicators. The backlight color is changeable and it reads in Km or Miles. Install was pretty simple, I had to cut and reconnect all wires with butt connectors. The speed sensor is installed through the fork guard and two magnets are attached to the front rotor. I had some programming issues with it and the odometer/trip did not work initially but after about 60 miles of riding they both fired up and they are very accurate. The speedo is also very accurate. https://www.amazon.com/Samdo-Univers...al+speedometer The $24 headlight/fairing also came from Amazon as well and it works OK but mounting is a NIGHTMARE; the light is meant to be mounted right up against the forks using the rubber fork straps; there is no room for a speedometer in between. I re positioned using custom bike inner tube strips and 1/2" irrigation drip line and it fits great! The light housing itself is can be aimed up or down. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 The new light was better than stock but still doesn't blow me away so I ordered a set of 18w offroad flood lights from Amazon as well($16/pr). I am not sure how much my stator can handle so as of now I have 1 mounted on the front fender and it puts out good consistent flood light pattern. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I also added a new $10 set of heated hand grips and they work great! So far no issues with the battery charging while running the heated hand grips and about 25 watts going to LED lighting. __________________ 2013 SSR XF-250
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10-26-2017, 05:08 PM	#145
dh Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: NW Arkansas Posts: 453	__________________ 2013 SSR XF-250
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10-26-2017, 05:22 PM	#146
dh Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: NW Arkansas Posts: 453	__________________ 2013 SSR XF-250
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12-27-2017, 08:06 AM	#148
clark Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Fort Myers, FL Posts: 39	I had a Kawasaki dual sport before my current Magician 250. I needed new tires for the Kawa. I ordered the tires on-line, and took them to a local hole-in-the-wall cycle shop for mounting. The shop "helper" mounted the tires. I had to step in when I saw him using a long handle (24+"?) wrench on the rear axle nuts and gorilla leaning into the wrench to tighten (200ft-lb?)... NO TORQUE wrench in sight. The shop owner (immigrant - and no disrespect intended) seemed mad at me for getting involved and pointing out unknown torque on bolts (they would not let me into the shop bay; I stood at the doorway to the bay)... owner recognized my unknown torque point. Thus shop owner stepped in to properly torque the nuts. (I wonder how many bikes the helper had over-torqued?) This is why I always shudder at the thought of any of my equipment going into a shop for any repair. Wouldn't you think something as simple as mounting tires would be trouble free? If I had not stepped in... something (bearings?) would have been damaged in very short order. BTW, Dec 27, 2017... and temp expected to be about 80 today. :-) __________________ Magician 250 (9/2016 engine label) Kawasaki 650 KLR Honda 1300 VTX Qlink XF200
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12-28-2017, 09:13 AM	#149
Derekon2s Join Date: May 2017 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 84	Winter sucks. Yea, the high here was 12 yesterday. lol It's supposed to be like -5 this weekend or something. Gonna have to get some more firewood cut! Really been wanting to ride, but in this weather I don't feel like doing shit. __________________ 2017 Yamaha FZ09 2016 Suzuki DRZ400SM 2016 SSR XF250 2003 Honda XR70 20XX SSR 125 Pit Bike 2011 Ninja ZX6R - Stolen 1996 Honda VFR750F - Sold - 2004 Suzuki GSXR750 -Totaled- Bunch of cars and trucks. lol
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01-02-2018, 03:08 PM	#150
dh Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: NW Arkansas Posts: 453	Derekon great deal on the little pit bike. I tried really hard to find a deal like that for my son's 9th birthday but people never seem to respond to their ads on Craigslist or offerup so I ended up getting him a new Coleman minibike from WalMart. He loves it and I just realized yesterday it uses the same motor I have in my little Champion 1.5kw generator so maintenance is going to be easy. I am liking the gauges a lot. Wiring was easy and the gauges are very responsive. Mounting was tricky; I ended up using scrap brackets from an old XF seat which worked perfectly. The initial programming was difficult as was a flaw in the speedo programming (I thought I wired it wrong) but the tech support from the Amazon seller (Samdo) was great; I feel like I get better support from their lady in China than I ever did from SSR. I am having an intermittent problem though. Occasionally the speedo reading will start spiking up and down and then go to 00 while on the highway. This usually happens midway to work (88 miles one way) in an area that is incredibly windy and I pass under high voltage power lines and I would like to find out if the problem is environmental. The seller just sent me a new speed sensor and magnets to try and isolate the problem but I wonder if this is something I will just have to deal with; the seller has offered a replacement but I don't know if I feel like rewiring again. __________________ 2013 SSR XF-250
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