Hawk1 or Hawk2

WatchDoc · 10-14-2018, 04:46 PM

Just about ready to finally pull the trigger and order my Hawk, intention after reading posts here is to go with q9powersports until I stumbled across saferwholesale and they are advertising the Hawk2...........being a new guy I had no idea that a Hawk2 even existed!
It’s a couple hundred dollars more expensive and what I can see is the speedo is different and the plastic and graphics may be different also, plus alarm and remote start, which to be honest doesn’t really interest me too much, can anyone tell me more and guide me what to do as I’m now scratching my head again and not sure how to proceed. What would you guys do?

Appreciate any guidance.
Brian

Alpha Reign · 10-14-2018, 05:43 PM

They are exactly the same, besides the Hawk 2 has an electric start. The speedo I never saw a difference, but there might be. I recommend you get you hawk from txpowersports. Not unless you really want an electric start. But I would save a few dollars and buy the digital cluster.

WatchDoc · 10-14-2018, 05:53 PM

Thanks Alpha Reign, if they are the same I will just stick to my plan and go with the “original” Hawk, always in the plan and budget to upgrade the speedo anyway. Would I not be correct in saying though that they both have electric start?

timcosby · 10-14-2018, 06:23 PM

all hawks are electric start to my knowledge. i havent seen any of the china bike that were not electric and kick start.

**JerryHawk250** · 10-14-2018, 08:05 PM

The Hawk 2 is a Bashan aka Enforcer. Bikes are very similar but different manufacture.

WatchDoc · 10-14-2018, 08:38 PM

Thank you guys, that makes it a bit clearer for me now, just need to finally decide on a color, I keep changing my mind but there is something about the green that draws me to it, even though I’ve read here that the black ones are faster! 😊

culcune · 10-14-2018, 09:26 PM

The Bashan bike was released to compete with the RPS Hawk. I believe one difference is the Bashan is set up with street gearing. The Bashan is EPA/DOT certified for 49 states, whereas the Hawk is technically certified as an off road bike; Florida won't make a difference as far as registration goes, however. I personally would go for the Bashan, but that is a personal preference due to the street friendly gearing and other factors.

WatchDoc · 10-14-2018, 09:49 PM

Appreciate your thoughts Culcune, thank you.

**JerryHawk250** · 10-14-2018, 09:51 PM

The one reason I would go with the Hawk is that the Hawk comes with duel piston calipers with larger brake pads vs the single piston caliper with the smaller hockey puck brake pad on the bashan. Yes the bashan comes with more street friendly gearing but depending on what type of riding you plan on doing you will end up changing sprockets to suit you riding preference. Remote start is a nice feature but most owners either don't use it or end up removing it.

WatchDoc · 10-14-2018, 10:11 PM

Thanks JerryHawk, I’ve pretty much set my heart on the Hawk, I’ve been lurking on this site for a while and been watching all the awesome YouTube vids on the Hawk upgrades and maintenance, really can’t wait to get it ordered now and get my hands dirty, for me the build and maintenance is going to be a huge part of the fun of ownership.
Looking forward to posting pics and asking for guidance and opinions as I go along.

culcune · 10-14-2018, 10:26 PM

The Hawk is a great bike

not to mention many more members have the Hawk and there are plenty of discussions on the Hawk; they are pretty much completely sorted out. JerryHawk250 mentioned the remote start which I forgot about--I don't think I would be using it for any reason. The Hawk is an excellent bike, and sprockets do not cost much. I have liked all the Bashan lineup, which is why I would lean towards them personally. With a guy nicknamed JerryHawk250 steering you towards the Hawk, how can you go wrong?!

culcune · 10-15-2018, 01:03 AM

Oh...don't buy from Saferwholesale. Part of the reason they rename bikes is they are the type of online dealership that pulls the ol' bait and switch. Numerous members have told tales of woe dealing with them. Motobuys.com does the same thing. Buyer beware...

WatchDoc · 10-15-2018, 04:02 AM

Thanks culcune, my plan is to go with Q9powersports, seem to have favorable reviews and their price is good with free shipping here to Florida.

jhawk19 · 10-15-2018, 07:29 AM

I purchased from https://www.ebay.com/usr/budget-powe...p2047675.l2559

Had my bike 4 days after I sent payment.

10-14-2018, 04:46 PM	#1
WatchDoc Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Jupiter, Florida Posts: 9	Hawk1 or Hawk2 Just about ready to finally pull the trigger and order my Hawk, intention after reading posts here is to go with q9powersports until I stumbled across saferwholesale and they are advertising the Hawk2...........being a new guy I had no idea that a Hawk2 even existed! It’s a couple hundred dollars more expensive and what I can see is the speedo is different and the plastic and graphics may be different also, plus alarm and remote start, which to be honest doesn’t really interest me too much, can anyone tell me more and guide me what to do as I’m now scratching my head again and not sure how to proceed. What would you guys do? Appreciate any guidance. Brian
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10-14-2018, 05:43 PM	#2
Alpha Reign Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Ohio Posts: 131	Hawk 2 They are exactly the same, besides the Hawk 2 has an electric start. The speedo I never saw a difference, but there might be. I recommend you get you hawk from txpowersports. Not unless you really want an electric start. But I would save a few dollars and buy the digital cluster.
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10-14-2018, 06:23 PM	#4
timcosby Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: robertsdale alabama usa Posts: 1,007	all hawks are electric start to my knowledge. i havent seen any of the china bike that were not electric and kick start. __________________ 1991 harley heritage softail classic 2016 hawk kaw h1 400 tripple 13' long chopper in progress 2009 johnny pag bar hog 2004 hd electra glide ultra classic shriner edition 1997 harley davidson 1200 sportster 1972 harley davidson amf sx250
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10-14-2018, 08:05 PM	#5
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,564	The Hawk 2 is a Bashan aka Enforcer. Bikes are very similar but different manufacture. __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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10-14-2018, 09:26 PM	#7
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,035	The Bashan bike was released to compete with the RPS Hawk. I believe one difference is the Bashan is set up with street gearing. The Bashan is EPA/DOT certified for 49 states, whereas the Hawk is technically certified as an off road bike; Florida won't make a difference as far as registration goes, however. I personally would go for the Bashan, but that is a personal preference due to the street friendly gearing and other factors. __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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10-14-2018, 05:53 PM	#3
WatchDoc Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Jupiter, Florida Posts: 9	Thanks Alpha Reign, if they are the same I will just stick to my plan and go with the “original” Hawk, always in the plan and budget to upgrade the speedo anyway. Would I not be correct in saying though that they both have electric start?
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10-14-2018, 08:38 PM	#6
WatchDoc Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Jupiter, Florida Posts: 9	Thank you guys, that makes it a bit clearer for me now, just need to finally decide on a color, I keep changing my mind but there is something about the green that draws me to it, even though I’ve read here that the black ones are faster! 😊
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10-14-2018, 09:49 PM	#8
WatchDoc Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Jupiter, Florida Posts: 9	Appreciate your thoughts Culcune, thank you.
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10-14-2018, 09:51 PM	#9
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,564	The one reason I would go with the Hawk is that the Hawk comes with duel piston calipers with larger brake pads vs the single piston caliper with the smaller hockey puck brake pad on the bashan. Yes the bashan comes with more street friendly gearing but depending on what type of riding you plan on doing you will end up changing sprockets to suit you riding preference. Remote start is a nice feature but most owners either don't use it or end up removing it. __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel Last edited by JerryHawk250; 10-15-2018 at 02:00 PM.
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10-14-2018, 10:11 PM	#10
WatchDoc Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Jupiter, Florida Posts: 9	Thanks JerryHawk, I’ve pretty much set my heart on the Hawk, I’ve been lurking on this site for a while and been watching all the awesome YouTube vids on the Hawk upgrades and maintenance, really can’t wait to get it ordered now and get my hands dirty, for me the build and maintenance is going to be a huge part of the fun of ownership. Looking forward to posting pics and asking for guidance and opinions as I go along.
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10-14-2018, 10:26 PM	#11
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,035	The Hawk is a great bike not to mention many more members have the Hawk and there are plenty of discussions on the Hawk; they are pretty much completely sorted out. JerryHawk250 mentioned the remote start which I forgot about--I don't think I would be using it for any reason. The Hawk is an excellent bike, and sprockets do not cost much. I have liked all the Bashan lineup, which is why I would lean towards them personally. With a guy nicknamed JerryHawk250 steering you towards the Hawk, how can you go wrong?! __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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10-15-2018, 01:03 AM	#12
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,035	Oh...don't buy from Saferwholesale. Part of the reason they rename bikes is they are the type of online dealership that pulls the ol' bait and switch. Numerous members have told tales of woe dealing with them. Motobuys.com does the same thing. Buyer beware... __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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10-15-2018, 04:02 AM	#13
WatchDoc Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Jupiter, Florida Posts: 9	Thanks culcune, my plan is to go with Q9powersports, seem to have favorable reviews and their price is good with free shipping here to Florida.
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10-15-2018, 07:29 AM	#14
jhawk19 Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: South Carolina Posts: 32	I purchased from https://www.ebay.com/usr/budget-powe...p2047675.l2559 Had my bike 4 days after I sent payment.
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