Motor Options for suzuki dr-200 - Page 2

2LZ · 01-14-2019, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by elkhunter338

Did the Suzuki come with an engine made in China? Or is there just a clone China engine available with cross reference parts?

Ok... "from everything I've read and heard" (how's that?), Qingqi made the small motors for Suzuki, KTM's small bikes and some of the small Kawasaki's.

If this has been a tall tale, I'm not sure. Culcune???

culcune · 01-14-2019, 03:36 PM

When Carl Parker (Crazy Carl) was a member here and started his own forum mychinamoto.com, he was living and working in China. He had a close relationship with Qingqi, and was even given (actually loaned) one of their enduros for longterm evaluation. I believe the XF250 before we had it. He had stated a few times that they were the OEM for Suzuki's 250 and below singles. At least that is how I recall it. There might have been asterisks (*) with that statement but I recall him stating it and me thinking there must be disclaimers as it seemed too broad.

NzBrakelathes · 01-14-2019, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by culcune

When Carl Parker (Crazy Carl) was a member here and started his own forum mychinamoto.com, he was living and working in China. He had a close relationship with Qingqi, and was even given (actually loaned) one of their enduros for longterm evaluation. I believe the XF250 before we had it. He had stated a few times that they were the OEM for Suzuki's 250 and below singles. At least that is how I recall it. There might have been asterisks (*) with that statement but I recall him stating it and me thinking there must be disclaimers as it seemed too broad.

QingQi was making the Suzuki DR200 or some Suzuki s, now they make some of the Haoysong Koroan brand 250 maybe 650 bikes.
Not 1200% clear which exactly but they are the OEM for some brands

Bruces · 01-14-2019, 08:51 PM

Pitster pro xtr200x had the Suzuki engine in it ,not sure if you guys got them in the states but we did in Canada ,and I did a clutch on one and can confirm I bought Suzuki parts for it .The bike was a 2012 .

elkhunter338 · 01-14-2019, 09:54 PM

so it sounds like some Japanese actual have heart made in China, that really makes me think a CSC china bike is going to be a good purchase.
Some one makes fun of it being a china bike I can ask are you really sure your bike is all Japanese or is it part China too.

ChipToothy · 01-14-2019, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by elkhunter338

so it sounds like some Japanese actual have heart made in China, that really makes me think a CSC china bike is going to be a good purchase.
Some one makes fun of it being a china bike I can ask are you really sure your bike is all Japanese or is it part China too.

"Technology Of Japan"

It say's so right there on the carb

culcune · 01-14-2019, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruces

Pitster pro xtr200x had the Suzuki engine in it ,not sure if you guys got them in the states but we did in Canada ,and I did a clutch on one and can confirm I bought Suzuki parts for it .The bike was a 2012 .

I have a feeling Qlink or SSR had US distribution rights when Pitster Canada had them available to you guys because Pitster never offered them here.

culcune · 01-14-2019, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by elkhunter338

so it sounds like some Japanese actual have heart made in China, that really makes me think a CSC china bike is going to be a good purchase.
Some one makes fun of it being a china bike I can ask are you really sure your bike is all Japanese or is it part China too.

See which Suzukis we have in the US from China... http://en.haojue.com/products/styles_102_156_b156.htm

dh · 01-15-2019, 11:26 AM

If you go on Qingqi's website and read the section on the Company History, they proudly claim they have been a Suzuki OEM supplier, at least in the past. When shopping for parts for my SSR xf250 on Taobao I have found it interesting that OEM Suzuki parts end up in the search results, and are sold by the same suppliers as the Qingqi parts. (Or they used to at least).

Also, since the 250 and 200 motors have both seen use in the Qlink/SSR and the 200 is shared with the DR, I would assume the 250 could also be mounted in the DR with little trouble, but I have heard what happens when we assume things...

david3921 · 01-15-2019, 02:37 PM

From what I remember, the Qingqi 200 is actually a 125 with a 200 head and piston. A DR200 will out perform XF, XP, and SSR 200's. Keep that in mind when considering a swap.

01-14-2019, 03:36 PM	#17
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,035	When Carl Parker (Crazy Carl) was a member here and started his own forum mychinamoto.com, he was living and working in China. He had a close relationship with Qingqi, and was even given (actually loaned) one of their enduros for longterm evaluation. I believe the XF250 before we had it. He had stated a few times that they were the OEM for Suzuki's 250 and below singles. At least that is how I recall it. There might have been asterisks (*) with that statement but I recall him stating it and me thinking there must be disclaimers as it seemed too broad. __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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01-15-2019, 11:26 AM	#24
dh Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: NW Arkansas Posts: 453	If you go on Qingqi's website and read the section on the Company History, they proudly claim they have been a Suzuki OEM supplier, at least in the past. When shopping for parts for my SSR xf250 on Taobao I have found it interesting that OEM Suzuki parts end up in the search results, and are sold by the same suppliers as the Qingqi parts. (Or they used to at least). Also, since the 250 and 200 motors have both seen use in the Qlink/SSR and the 200 is shared with the DR, I would assume the 250 could also be mounted in the DR with little trouble, but I have heard what happens when we assume things... __________________ 2013 SSR XF-250
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01-15-2019, 02:37 PM	#25
david3921 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,032	From what I remember, the Qingqi 200 is actually a 125 with a 200 head and piston. A DR200 will out perform XF, XP, and SSR 200's. Keep that in mind when considering a swap. __________________ 2012 Kawasaki Versys 1984 Honda Magna V65 2016 Rhino 250 2016 Tao Tao 125D
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01-14-2019, 08:51 PM	#19
Bruces Join Date: May 2018 Posts: 1,588	Pitster pro xtr200x had the Suzuki engine in it ,not sure if you guys got them in the states but we did in Canada ,and I did a clutch on one and can confirm I bought Suzuki parts for it .The bike was a 2012 .
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01-14-2019, 09:54 PM	#20
elkhunter338 Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Oregon Posts: 81	so it sounds like some Japanese actual have heart made in China, that really makes me think a CSC china bike is going to be a good purchase. Some one makes fun of it being a china bike I can ask are you really sure your bike is all Japanese or is it part China too.
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