Real axel bolts coming loose

[Allinarush]

I took the Hawk out for a short ride and noticed my wheel not straight. The bolts were pretty loose. Are yall using lock washers or loctite?

[Megadan]

Are you talking about the adjusters? If so, I use a washer, lock washer, and then a second nut to tighten against the main one.

Set your alignment and chain tension. Tighten the axle, tighten each adjuster, then spin on an extra nut to each side and tighten it against the first nut.

[Allinarush]

No, the axle bolts were pretty loose.

[Megadan]

Originally Posted by Allinarush

No, the axle bolts were pretty loose.

There is only one axle bolt. It is the rear axle.

If you aren't sure you understand what I am asking about, post a picture with an arrow or circle around the item you are trying to describe.

[Allinarush]

You are correct, one axle bolt. Thats the one im talking about.

[OneLeggedRider]

At the moment there isn't enough threads to put 2 nuts on my adjusters so I used loctite. As far as the rear axle I cant imagine it vibrating loose if it's torqued properly to begin with. But I could be wrong.

[Megadan]

Originally Posted by Allinarush

You are correct, one axle bolt. Thats the one im talking about.

The rear axle bolt, the one that goes through the swing arm and rear wheel, should have a Stover or Nylock nut securing it in place. The only way that could have come loose is if it was not tightened properly as OneleggedRider mentioned. The nut on the rear axle bolt should be tightened to 35ft-lbs.

Just to be 100% sure we are on the same page. This is the Axle Nut/Bolt.


This is one of the adjusters.

Originally Posted by OneLeggedRider

At the moment there isn't enough threads to put 2 nuts on my adjusters so I used loctite.

I had to use actual lock nuts on mine, they are about 30-40% thinner than a standard nut. I had to do the same with my stainless exaust studs due to length. I should have bought 5mm longer ones. Hindsight is like that lol.

[Lit Hawk]

35ft-lbs? I usually tighten mine to 93nm

[Weldangrind]

Originally Posted by Lit Hawk

35ft-lbs? I usually tighten mine to 93nm

That's about 68ft-lbs, nearly double what Dan uses.

[Megadan]

Originally Posted by Lit Hawk

35ft-lbs? I usually tighten mine to 93nm

35ft-lbs is the torque spec provided by CSC for the TT250 Axle bolt. Since the TT250 uses the same basic swing arm and axle design out back, I trust their figures.

It worked on my last bike, and is what I use on the new one. As an added bit of assurance, I always toss a little medium loctite on the bolt.

I have toyed with the idea of drilling a small hole in said bolt for a cotter pin and replacing the original nut with an M14x1.5 castle nut.

[2LZ]

Yup, 35 lbs. Much more and you start to crush the awesome box metal swingarm.

[Lit Hawk]

Wow I wonder were I got the 93nm from. No wonder I’ve gone through a couple rear axles and stripped nuts.

Heres the link I got info from
http://www.chinariders.raptorrefuge....d.php?p=198036

[Ariel Red Hunter]

Originally Posted by Lit Hawk

35ft-lbs? I usually tighten mine to 93nm

Texas is on the Metric system?..ARH

[Lit Hawk]

This is from hawks owner manual

[Megadan]

Originally Posted by Lit Hawk

This is from hawks owner manual

I don't trust those figures. Why?

It lists Front axle pinch bolt torque.., These bikes don't have front axle pinch bolts. That immediately tells me that those figures are just pulled from some random source.

Case in point, it also says a 10A main fuse yet the glass fuse I pulled from my bike was a 15A. So either their book is right and they installed whatever they had on hand, which in this case would be dangerous, or the book is wrong.

I simply Trust CSC a lot more than the poorly translated chinglish manual handed out with these bikes with about as much care as they are put together.