tao tao 110 overcharging - Page 2

coleman85 · 01-24-2019, 07:26 PM

No information was asked for. They went off of the order number when I ordered it. Its marked as a 110 cc TForce on Amazon. But when I assembled it, I noticed it said 120cc class on the plate. Yes, I charged all the batteries I got for the atv with a trickle charger. I now have an AGM battery. I guess my next test will be to put the old stator back in and give that a try. Thanks for the help.

coleman85 · 02-08-2019, 06:05 PM

Okay guys, I hoped this would have worked. I bought a new regulator direct from taotao, and put the old stator back in. Fired it up, seemed good at first, holding around 13.5-14 volts. Throttled it up, and it slowly climbed to 16.7-17 volts, but never went over 17. Let off and drops the 14-15 fluctuating volts. Didn't want to smoke a 4th battery so I quit. Any ideas? It wouldn't have anything to do with it being -22 degrees F outside would it. I keep the garage just above freezing, and bring the battery in to the house

pete · 02-09-2019, 01:01 AM

so the motor is a copy of the Honda… I am wondering if the
charging system is also...

early Honda's had this same issue.... as they had a rectifier and used the battery
as the regulator .. they may call it a regulator but is it..

the Pardue brothers in the US make a regulator that wires in between
the rectifier and the battery for the CT Honda's..

could you post a picture of the regulator..

so that's my thoughts on it....

..

Bruces · 02-09-2019, 08:45 AM

It sounds like you are chasing your tail on this .I do not know where you live ,but in one of your posts you mention -20f temps ,so I am thinking you might have access to snowmobile parts .Anyways ,one idea ,is to wire in a universal voltage regulator ,and one that is widely used is one from a 80’s or older Ski Doo brand .They are very cheap ,very easy to wire ,and work very well ,and are sold as the universal option for snowmobiles ,atv’s and motorcycles .

coleman85 · 02-10-2019, 08:37 PM

https://www.taotaopartsdirect.com/pr...ator-rectifier

This is the regulator I just purchased and it did not qork

Bruces · 02-10-2019, 08:50 PM

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Snowmobile-1...-/192655648424

This is what I am talking about ,two yellows go to the stator ,black is ground and red is positive .

coleman85 · 03-04-2019, 09:07 PM

Okay, so wife doesn't like me continuing to throw parts at this thing and I'm too stubborn to bring it in so I'm trying again on here. I did a few tests tonight and want to see if anyone can decifer this. I also felt I,had a win tonight. I got the voltage to consistently read 14.3 at idle. Only when I gave it throttle did it climb to 17v. So here's this:

Red and black stator 51 AC volts
White 11
Yellow 8
Blue 1 volt AC

Regulator
White 11 AC
Yellow 9
Red all over the place

Regulator DC
Red 14.2 idle climbs with throttle applied
Non at other wires

Ohm
Stator
White .4
Yellow .3
Blue 144.6
Red 0L
Green 0.0

Regulator. -lead on green + to all others
.3 yellow
White .5
Red OL
Green 0.0

Ohm. - lead on green + to all others
Green to yellow .2
Green to red 584 and dropping
Green to blue 145.7
Green to white .2

Tao125f1 · 03-19-2019, 02:27 PM

how about a picture of wires plugged into regulator. maybe there not in plug in the correct order.

coleman85 · 03-20-2019, 11:26 AM

I had a mechanic at my shop look into it, and he is just as puzzled as I am. He is very knowledgeable in electronic testing, and he couldn't figure it out. We checked all wires, OHM tested, voltage tested, we've flipped the connectors, even though the wiring is right, we've pulled the wires out and inspected, we pulled the plugs from the wires and recrimped them, and nothing has changed. The only thing we have gained from doing all of this, is it goes down to 13.5-14.3 volts at idle. Which before all of this, when you let of the throttle the voltage would stay up around 15 volts at idle. It still climbs to 17 volts when even giving it about 1/4 throttle

stanferd98 · 04-29-2019, 02:23 PM

I have tao tao 125 change stator and regulator have cooked 3 batteries...can't figuar9 why over charging

02-08-2019, 06:05 PM	#17
coleman85 Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 13	Okay guys, I hoped this would have worked. I bought a new regulator direct from taotao, and put the old stator back in. Fired it up, seemed good at first, holding around 13.5-14 volts. Throttled it up, and it slowly climbed to 16.7-17 volts, but never went over 17. Let off and drops the 14-15 fluctuating volts. Didn't want to smoke a 4th battery so I quit. Any ideas? It wouldn't have anything to do with it being -22 degrees F outside would it. I keep the garage just above freezing, and bring the battery in to the house Last edited by coleman85; 02-08-2019 at 06:44 PM.
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02-09-2019, 01:01 AM	#18
pete Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: ChCh , NZ Posts: 2,262	so the motor is a copy of the Honda… I am wondering if the charging system is also... early Honda's had this same issue.... as they had a rectifier and used the battery as the regulator .. they may call it a regulator but is it.. the Pardue brothers in the US make a regulator that wires in between the rectifier and the battery for the CT Honda's.. could you post a picture of the regulator.. so that's my thoughts on it.... .. __________________ 09 XT660R ... 06 TTR250 ... 80 Montesa H6 125 Enduro... 77 Montesa Cota 348 MRR "Malcom Rathnell Replica"... Current resto projects.. 81 Honda CT110... 80 Kawasaki KL250A1... 11 Husaburg TE125 enduro... "sold" along with another 31... Lifan 125 Pitbike.. "stolen" ... KIWI BIKER FORUM...... http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/content.php All the best offroad rides in NZ... http://www.remotemoto.com/ E-mail... xtpete1@gmail.com
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04-29-2019, 02:23 PM	#25
stanferd98 Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 2	same issue I have tao tao 125 change stator and regulator have cooked 3 batteries...can't figuar9 why over charging
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01-24-2019, 07:26 PM	#16
coleman85 Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 13	No information was asked for. They went off of the order number when I ordered it. Its marked as a 110 cc TForce on Amazon. But when I assembled it, I noticed it said 120cc class on the plate. Yes, I charged all the batteries I got for the atv with a trickle charger. I now have an AGM battery. I guess my next test will be to put the old stator back in and give that a try. Thanks for the help.
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02-09-2019, 08:45 AM	#19
Bruces Join Date: May 2018 Posts: 1,586	It sounds like you are chasing your tail on this .I do not know where you live ,but in one of your posts you mention -20f temps ,so I am thinking you might have access to snowmobile parts .Anyways ,one idea ,is to wire in a universal voltage regulator ,and one that is widely used is one from a 80’s or older Ski Doo brand .They are very cheap ,very easy to wire ,and work very well ,and are sold as the universal option for snowmobiles ,atv’s and motorcycles .
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02-10-2019, 08:37 PM	#20
coleman85 Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 13	https://www.taotaopartsdirect.com/pr...ator-rectifier This is the regulator I just purchased and it did not qork
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02-10-2019, 08:50 PM	#21
Bruces Join Date: May 2018 Posts: 1,586	https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Snowmobile-1...-/192655648424 This is what I am talking about ,two yellows go to the stator ,black is ground and red is positive .
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03-04-2019, 09:07 PM	#22
coleman85 Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 13	Okay, so wife doesn't like me continuing to throw parts at this thing and I'm too stubborn to bring it in so I'm trying again on here. I did a few tests tonight and want to see if anyone can decifer this. I also felt I,had a win tonight. I got the voltage to consistently read 14.3 at idle. Only when I gave it throttle did it climb to 17v. So here's this: Red and black stator 51 AC volts White 11 Yellow 8 Blue 1 volt AC Regulator White 11 AC Yellow 9 Red all over the place Regulator DC Red 14.2 idle climbs with throttle applied Non at other wires Ohm Stator White .4 Yellow .3 Blue 144.6 Red 0L Green 0.0 Regulator. -lead on green + to all others .3 yellow White .5 Red OL Green 0.0 Ohm. - lead on green + to all others Green to yellow .2 Green to red 584 and dropping Green to blue 145.7 Green to white .2
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03-19-2019, 02:27 PM	#23
Tao125f1 Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: USA ohio Posts: 19	how about a picture of wires plugged into regulator. maybe there not in plug in the correct order.
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03-20-2019, 11:26 AM	#24
coleman85 Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 13	I had a mechanic at my shop look into it, and he is just as puzzled as I am. He is very knowledgeable in electronic testing, and he couldn't figure it out. We checked all wires, OHM tested, voltage tested, we've flipped the connectors, even though the wiring is right, we've pulled the wires out and inspected, we pulled the plugs from the wires and recrimped them, and nothing has changed. The only thing we have gained from doing all of this, is it goes down to 13.5-14.3 volts at idle. Which before all of this, when you let of the throttle the voltage would stay up around 15 volts at idle. It still climbs to 17 volts when even giving it about 1/4 throttle
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