Hawk Crash -

Vtunimog · 09-06-2019, 10:24 AM

I have been riding since I was about 13 and only had one other crash - both times on dirt roads with ruts or soft gravel. My last one was last night around 8:45 I was cruising a road that sort of skirts the top of a mtn near us, I don’t mind riding at night but it was a bit chilly last night, about 45-50F maybe cooler where I was up on the mtn. I was riding along at 35-45 and had just reduced speed for an upcoming curve. Suddenly I saw eyes and a deer coming out of the trees, so I swerved at maybe 30 while braking and the soft gravel and really soft front forks just sent the bike over. Scraped up helmet, some gravel rash through my pants and jacket and a pulled calf so I was lucky. The bike did ok but I notice the front wheel is off about .75 -1.5” from the headlight center and handle bars , I assume my forks are bent. To add insult to injury I was in a pretty remote area and when I lifted the bike back up I noticed in the headlight a trailcam setup pointing at the road. Someone probably saw my idiocy

The off center wheel made the 8 mile ride home very slow and scary

If the forks are bent , I can’t believe the tree would be bent ? - any recommendations on replacements ? I feel like they are way too soft and make the bike squirrelly at times , especially on dirt.

wedooit · 09-06-2019, 10:26 AM

Hope you are ok and recover well!!!

**JerryHawk250** · 09-06-2019, 10:36 AM

Glad you're here to tell about it. Wait, the sourness will kick in later. Ask me how I know. lol
As far as the Forks. Check with Jeff with Peace Sports Atlanta. The forks on the standard Brozz may be the same. He can check measurements for you. Parts are available on his website. https://shop.brozz250.com/eshopprod_...Suspension.htm

Do the fork brace mod. It will stiffen up the front end.

Mudflap · 09-06-2019, 11:15 AM

Forks may not be bent. Loosen ft axle nut, tripple.clamp bolts, etc., then twist the wheel straight and tighten everything.

OneLeggedRider · 09-06-2019, 11:27 AM

Both times I laid my Hawk down the wheel got tweaked a little off center. I didn't even have to loosen anything up, just put wheel between your knees to hold it and crank the handlebars in the direction it needs to go.

OneLeggedRider · 09-06-2019, 07:56 PM

Learned that in the very early '80's riding XRs, YZs, and Can Ams (which were labeled as widow makers because the motor far exceeded the brakes and suspension). And bikes back in the day were slightly more bulletproof than these China bikes.

Get you a 1980 copy of Cycle World magazine testing the big bore Husqvarna and you'll know where we came from and how far we've gotten. Some of the bikes tested then don't even exist to the regular public now.

Musictrek · 09-07-2019, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Vtunimog

I have been riding since I was about 13 and only had one other crash - both times on dirt roads with ruts or soft gravel. My last one was last night around 8:45 I was cruising a road that sort of skirts the top of a mtn near us, I don’t mind riding at night but it was a bit chilly last night, about 45-50F maybe cooler where I was up on the mtn. I was riding along at 35-45 and had just reduced speed for an upcoming curve. Suddenly I saw eyes and a deer coming out of the trees, so I swerved at maybe 30 while braking and the soft gravel and really soft front forks just sent the bike over. Scraped up helmet, some gravel rash through my pants and jacket and a pulled calf so I was lucky. The bike did ok but I notice the front wheel is off about .75 -1.5” from the headlight center and handle bars , I assume my forks are bent. To add insult to injury I was in a pretty remote area and when I lifted the bike back up I noticed in the headlight a trailcam setup pointing at the road. Someone probably saw my idiocy

The off center wheel made the 8 mile ride home very slow and scary

If the forks are bent , I can’t believe the tree would be bent ? - any recommendations on replacements ? I feel like they are way too soft and make the bike squirrelly at times , especially on dirt.

I did a ride in Alaska and kept thinking a bear or a fox or something was going to cross my path at 80mph on a Harley. You survived!

pete · 09-07-2019, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Musictrek

I did a ride in Alaska and kept thinking a bear or a fox or something was going to cross my path at 80mph on a Harley. You survived!

WOW...
Bears and Foxes ride Harleys at 80mph in Alaska...

I did not know that...

..

wedooit · 09-18-2019, 12:13 PM

Hey vtunimog, did you get healed up and bike repaired?

09-06-2019, 10:24 AM	#1
Vtunimog Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Vermont - USA Posts: 73	Hawk Crash - I have been riding since I was about 13 and only had one other crash - both times on dirt roads with ruts or soft gravel. My last one was last night around 8:45 I was cruising a road that sort of skirts the top of a mtn near us, I don’t mind riding at night but it was a bit chilly last night, about 45-50F maybe cooler where I was up on the mtn. I was riding along at 35-45 and had just reduced speed for an upcoming curve. Suddenly I saw eyes and a deer coming out of the trees, so I swerved at maybe 30 while braking and the soft gravel and really soft front forks just sent the bike over. Scraped up helmet, some gravel rash through my pants and jacket and a pulled calf so I was lucky. The bike did ok but I notice the front wheel is off about .75 -1.5” from the headlight center and handle bars , I assume my forks are bent. To add insult to injury I was in a pretty remote area and when I lifted the bike back up I noticed in the headlight a trailcam setup pointing at the road. Someone probably saw my idiocy The off center wheel made the 8 mile ride home very slow and scary If the forks are bent , I can’t believe the tree would be bent ? - any recommendations on replacements ? I feel like they are way too soft and make the bike squirrelly at times , especially on dirt.
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09-06-2019, 10:26 AM	#2
wedooit Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Pocatello, Idaho Posts: 794	Hope you are ok and recover well!!! __________________ A family that works together, plays together, shoots and trains together, and sleds together, stays together. Second amendment! SkiDoo sleds, NOW 2 TTR225, and a BMS250. A couple of quotes (we are not farmers) "I don't get off the farm much" "Am too old school" I call the china bikes "the china syndrome".
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09-06-2019, 10:36 AM	#3
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,571	Glad you're here to tell about it. Wait, the sourness will kick in later. Ask me how I know. lol As far as the Forks. Check with Jeff with Peace Sports Atlanta. The forks on the standard Brozz may be the same. He can check measurements for you. Parts are available on his website. https://shop.brozz250.com/eshopprod_...Suspension.htm Do the fork brace mod. It will stiffen up the front end. __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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09-18-2019, 12:13 PM	#9
wedooit Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Pocatello, Idaho Posts: 794	Hey vtunimog, did you get healed up and bike repaired? __________________ A family that works together, plays together, shoots and trains together, and sleds together, stays together. Second amendment! SkiDoo sleds, NOW 2 TTR225, and a BMS250. A couple of quotes (we are not farmers) "I don't get off the farm much" "Am too old school" I call the china bikes "the china syndrome".
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09-06-2019, 11:15 AM	#4
Mudflap Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 1,876	Forks may not be bent. Loosen ft axle nut, tripple.clamp bolts, etc., then twist the wheel straight and tighten everything.
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09-06-2019, 11:27 AM	#5
OneLeggedRider Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Stockport, Oh. Posts: 1,442	Both times I laid my Hawk down the wheel got tweaked a little off center. I didn't even have to loosen anything up, just put wheel between your knees to hold it and crank the handlebars in the direction it needs to go.
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09-06-2019, 07:56 PM	#6
OneLeggedRider Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Stockport, Oh. Posts: 1,442	Learned that in the very early '80's riding XRs, YZs, and Can Ams (which were labeled as widow makers because the motor far exceeded the brakes and suspension). And bikes back in the day were slightly more bulletproof than these China bikes. Get you a 1980 copy of Cycle World magazine testing the big bore Husqvarna and you'll know where we came from and how far we've gotten. Some of the bikes tested then don't even exist to the regular public now.
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