questions about our slection of mini-bikes

MDStroup · 10-05-2019, 11:18 PM

I have always wanted a mini bike but never considered the option strongly as i have never seen one in person. But i visited Fusion motorcycles for the first time friday since i was in the area, and it turns out theses mini bikes aren't so mini! It was actually quite comfortable in the seat.

So now i am strongly considering one of of theses Grom clones as a project bike. But before i set my heart on one of these bikes, i wanted to know if any of these bikes come with an engine with an overhead cam? Really want to see how much performance can be squeezed out of the stock engine.

Also, what Grom parts generally can swap over? I have found many placed that sell extended swingarms and the such for the Grom, but i don't know what would fit will fit.

Are there any fender eliminator style kits with an integrated tailight? 402innovations was one of the only ones i found and they don't make one any more.

link to picture taken that day. Don't remember the exact model this is.
https://imgur.com/a/QxzWH3D

Whisky · 10-06-2019, 04:46 AM

That's a Tao Tao Hellcat, there's also Vaders Gen 1 and 2, Lil Ducati made by SSR and also lil Ducati clone of SSR. Grom swing arms fit but they are tight so need to grind down a little on the frame, Grom forks fit. Grom plastics are interchangeable on the Vaders. There's tons of aftermarket parts available for all of them. Grom exhaust is only a direct fit on the SSR Lil Ducati, all other clones require modifications to make them fit. Several places have the integrated tails.

relicmoto · 10-06-2019, 10:57 AM

You might want to look into the Icebear Fuerza. I looked at one in a local scooter shop a while back and it had, as standard equipment, a long swingarm and what looks to be a fairly tidy tail. As far as I can tell, all of the g-clones come with essentially the same 125 sohc honda ”derived” engine.

culcune · 10-06-2019, 05:32 PM

Call Kronik Racing in Simi Valley, Cal. Pete is the owner and will set you up with a bike and parts. He know the Vaders very well.

10-05-2019, 11:18 PM	#1
MDStroup Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Chesapeake, VA Posts: 207	questions about our slection of mini-bikes I have always wanted a mini bike but never considered the option strongly as i have never seen one in person. But i visited Fusion motorcycles for the first time friday since i was in the area, and it turns out theses mini bikes aren't so mini! It was actually quite comfortable in the seat. So now i am strongly considering one of of theses Grom clones as a project bike. But before i set my heart on one of these bikes, i wanted to know if any of these bikes come with an engine with an overhead cam? Really want to see how much performance can be squeezed out of the stock engine. Also, what Grom parts generally can swap over? I have found many placed that sell extended swingarms and the such for the Grom, but i don't know what would fit will fit. Are there any fender eliminator style kits with an integrated tailight? 402innovations was one of the only ones i found and they don't make one any more. link to picture taken that day. Don't remember the exact model this is. https://imgur.com/a/QxzWH3D
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10-06-2019, 04:46 AM	#2
Whisky Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 286	That's a Tao Tao Hellcat, there's also Vaders Gen 1 and 2, Lil Ducati made by SSR and also lil Ducati clone of SSR. Grom swing arms fit but they are tight so need to grind down a little on the frame, Grom forks fit. Grom plastics are interchangeable on the Vaders. There's tons of aftermarket parts available for all of them. Grom exhaust is only a direct fit on the SSR Lil Ducati, all other clones require modifications to make them fit. Several places have the integrated tails. __________________ 2018 BD125-8-x21rs ZS190/Genuine PE28 Kepspeed GP1 Exhaust Protaper se x110 bars/grips 1/4 MotionPro throttle Kepspeed Braced swingarm Chimera rear hub assy Grom Intergrated tail light Superlite Sprockets 17/32 custom made from Japan Chimera Swing Arm Bolt RK MXZ Chain #420 All Balls wheel bearings Motodynamic fender eliminator Coremoto ss brake lines Composimo 2.5 lower link Grom Calipers-w/ebc pads/rotors Michelin tire 140&120 13x4/13x7 fatties Grom forks Last edited by Whisky; 10-06-2019 at 05:30 AM.
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10-06-2019, 05:32 PM	#4
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,035	Call Kronik Racing in Simi Valley, Cal. Pete is the owner and will set you up with a bike and parts. He know the Vaders very well. __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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10-06-2019, 10:57 AM	#3
relicmoto Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Tampa bay FL Posts: 16	You might want to look into the Icebear Fuerza. I looked at one in a local scooter shop a while back and it had, as standard equipment, a long swingarm and what looks to be a fairly tidy tail. As far as I can tell, all of the g-clones come with essentially the same 125 sohc honda ”derived” engine.
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