BMS CRP 250 rear wheel issues!!!! Help

420chonda · 06-17-2020, 08:08 PM

Had a small mishap with my rear wheel. I bought an Excel rim to replace this junk china hoop, but I'm having a hard time finding spoke info. Has anyone with a CRP250 had to replace any spokes?

NzBrakelathes · 06-17-2020, 08:47 PM

Bross? CSC TT250?
Depended on wheel size

culcune · 06-17-2020, 09:01 PM

Possibly TT250 or Hawk. The CRP is a Bashan, but uses the 21/18 setup rather than the 19/17 of the Brozz, Storm,etc.

Bruces · 06-17-2020, 09:10 PM

That looks like a finely tuned machine you got there ! .Whats going on with the chain ,are the links seized or what am I missing ? It doesn’t look like the adjusters have been touched in the picture ,yet there is a big gap between the links and the top side of the sprocket ?

420chonda · 06-17-2020, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruces

That looks like a finely tuned machine you got there ! .Whats going on with the chain ,are the links seized or what am I missing ? It doesn’t look like the adjusters have been touched in the picture ,yet there is a big gap between the links and the top side of the sprocket ?

What you are seeing is the spokes stuck in the chain!

420chonda · 06-17-2020, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by culcune

Possibly TT250 or Hawk. The CRP is a Bashan, but uses the 21/18 setup rather than the 19/17 of the Brozz, Storm,etc.

Correct it is 21/18. The TT250 has a different hub. It does look like the same hub as the Hawk. Just has the disc vs the drum.. I did buy a set of spokes that Motocheez.com recommended for the Hawk250, but they shipped today, and will come anywhere from July 1-24.... if I could find something sooner that would be SICK. Plus I dont even know if those will work. Im missing out on riding time! I need to get a train photo for the picture game

NzBrakelathes · 06-18-2020, 02:32 AM

Retail here the wheel is maybe $25...,
All those cheap bike look to be more then the reality..
Spokes are a mare to get and in the past I’ve had a wheel guy always just fix mine. Too messy
But I don’t live in the USA which in my opinion is a stupid move on my part.

emptypockets · 06-18-2020, 11:00 AM

I've replaced about 15 spokes on my rear wheel over the last few years. I've been keeping my spokes on the tighter side lately, about 5 foot pounds, and I check them every few rides. That seems to help. I also think the replacement spokes are stronger than the originals. Haven't had any problems with the rim.

420chonda · 06-18-2020, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by emptypockets

I've replaced about 15 spokes on my rear wheel over the last few years. I've been keeping my spokes on the tighter side lately, about 5 foot pounds, and I check them every few rides. That seems to help. I also think the replacement spokes are stronger than the originals. Haven't had any problems with the rim.

I see you have a Hawk. What spokes did you use and where did you buy them?

420chonda · 06-18-2020, 01:06 PM

All my local bike shops are so terrible. Customer service doesn't exist anymore. They hang up on me, ignore me, talk down to me... like come on, I'm trying to give you my money!! I ask if I can come in to check if they have a similar spoke to mine, and they seem okay... but they try to pry a make and model out of me.. if i let it slip that its chinese, I basically get hung up on. Its a spoke!! Come on! I don't understand why they have to be mean when I'm trying to spend money

Are there any wheels that are interchangeable?? Anyone throw a different back wheel on a hawk?

**JerryHawk250** · 06-18-2020, 01:19 PM

These work on the Hawk but will be on the slow boat from china. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32281989453.html
If you measure what you have then you can get exactly what you need.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3284...20b22e0eo6GJ2I

Megadan · 06-18-2020, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by emptypockets

I've replaced about 15 spokes on my rear wheel over the last few years. I've been keeping my spokes on the tighter side lately, about 5 foot pounds, and I check them every few rides. That seems to help. I also think the replacement spokes are stronger than the originals. Haven't had any problems with the rim.

I have replaced 0 spokes. Staying on top of the spoke tension is a pretty critical part of maintenance, especially on an off road used wheel. The knobby tire vibrations and constant flexing the rim and spokes experience slowly work them loose, and once a spoke is even a little bit loose it and the others around it start to experience increased stresses, and eventually they fail or otherwise fall apart.

franque · 06-18-2020, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 420chonda

All my local bike shops are so terrible. Customer service doesn't exist anymore. They hang up on me, ignore me, talk down to me, like come on, I'm trying to give you my money!! I ask if I can come in to check if they have a similar spoke to mine, and they seem okay... but they try to pry a make and model out of me.. if i let it slip that its chinese, I basically get hung up on. Its a spoke!! Come on! I don't understand why they have to be mean when I'm trying to spend money

Are there any wheels that are interchangeable?? Anyone throw a different back wheel on a hawk?

Tell them that it's a 1979 Honda XL185, the wheel (iirc) is modeled after an XL185.

420chonda · 06-18-2020, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by franque

Tell them that it's a 1979 Honda XL185, the wheel (iirc) is modeled after an XL185.

No way. My last dirt bike was a 1979 Honda XL185! Wish I kept the rear wheel! I'm gonna need to call a honda dealer or Buchanan's. I already emailed them but ill call if I don't hear anything tomorrow

420chonda · 06-18-2020, 08:46 PM

Well, for anyone interested, I just ordered these: https://www.ebay.com/itm/352249638121

I put my spokes up to a tape measure (I measured spokes from each side of the hub, just in case) and got 6 9/16," which is about 166mm. 165mm spokes were a lot easier to find. Hopefully 165 works, and I dont need to go get 170s.. I guess I was just bugging out because of the bend (J?) in the spokes, thought it was a huge deal.. we'll see

So, I have the set I ordered from Motocheez.com's Hawk250 parts list, AND this new set coming. Hopefully something works!! The Excel rim I ordered will be here tomorrow. The tube showed up today. The Kenda shows up Saturday. Its like Christmas time all over again!

If Buchanan gets back to me, I'll most likely still send them some spokes to copy. That is definitely still the best route

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emptypockets Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Colorado Posts: 44	I've replaced about 15 spokes on my rear wheel over the last few years. I've been keeping my spokes on the tighter side lately, about 5 foot pounds, and I check them every few rides. That seems to help. I also think the replacement spokes are stronger than the originals. Haven't had any problems with the rim. __________________ http://www.chinariders.net/album.php?albumid=355
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06-18-2020, 01:06 PM	#10
420chonda Join Date: May 2020 Location: Pennsyltucky Posts: 32	All my local bike shops are so terrible. Customer service doesn't exist anymore. They hang up on me, ignore me, talk down to me... like come on, I'm trying to give you my money!! I ask if I can come in to check if they have a similar spoke to mine, and they seem okay... but they try to pry a make and model out of me.. if i let it slip that its chinese, I basically get hung up on. Its a spoke!! Come on! I don't understand why they have to be mean when I'm trying to spend money Are there any wheels that are interchangeable?? Anyone throw a different back wheel on a hawk? Last edited by 420chonda; 06-22-2020 at 10:04 PM.
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06-18-2020, 01:19 PM	#11
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,574	These work on the Hawk but will be on the slow boat from china. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32281989453.html If you measure what you have then you can get exactly what you need. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3284...20b22e0eo6GJ2I __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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06-17-2020, 08:47 PM	#2
NzBrakelathes Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Hell Posts: 2,408	Bross? CSC TT250? Depended on wheel size
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06-17-2020, 09:10 PM	#4
Bruces Join Date: May 2018 Posts: 1,586	That looks like a finely tuned machine you got there ! .Whats going on with the chain ,are the links seized or what am I missing ? It doesn’t look like the adjusters have been touched in the picture ,yet there is a big gap between the links and the top side of the sprocket ?
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06-18-2020, 02:32 AM	#7
NzBrakelathes Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Hell Posts: 2,408	Retail here the wheel is maybe $25..., All those cheap bike look to be more then the reality.. Spokes are a mare to get and in the past I’ve had a wheel guy always just fix mine. Too messy But I don’t live in the USA which in my opinion is a stupid move on my part.
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06-18-2020, 08:46 PM	#15
420chonda Join Date: May 2020 Location: Pennsyltucky Posts: 32	Well, for anyone interested, I just ordered these: https://www.ebay.com/itm/352249638121 I put my spokes up to a tape measure (I measured spokes from each side of the hub, just in case) and got 6 9/16," which is about 166mm. 165mm spokes were a lot easier to find. Hopefully 165 works, and I dont need to go get 170s.. I guess I was just bugging out because of the bend (J?) in the spokes, thought it was a huge deal.. we'll see So, I have the set I ordered from Motocheez.com's Hawk250 parts list, AND this new set coming. Hopefully something works!! The Excel rim I ordered will be here tomorrow. The tube showed up today. The Kenda shows up Saturday. Its like Christmas time all over again! If Buchanan gets back to me, I'll most likely still send them some spokes to copy. That is definitely still the best route
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