Templar X 250 - Page 46

JRust · 09-15-2022, 04:14 PM

Got my 6 speed TempX in! I greased every bearing I could find and put blue threadlocker on most the bolts. I couldn't find any torque specs, so I just used common values from other bikes. I changed the oil, ran it for 20 min, then changed it again. Just got my spoke torque wrench in, so I need to check the spokes. I plan on riding it around a bit and see how it performs before I jet the carb. I have a few issues that I need help/advice with. First, the wheel bearings on the front and rear wheels are very stiff. I mean, I can get them to turn, but it takes a lot. Are stiff bearings normal? I'm hoping that they will loosen up after riding a bit. I am also hearing a ticking/tapping noise coming from the engine. Could it be loose valves? I plan on checking the clearance tonight, but I have no idea what it should be? Any suggestions on valve clearance values? Thanks

tknj99 · 09-15-2022, 04:50 PM

I dont have any spinning issues for the front wheel.. For the rear wheel i also found it to be sticking on the brake. The remedy as advised in this thread is to install a big washer on the inside of the wheel assembly right after the brake and against the inside of the right swingarm edge. There is a pic i posted in my thread for it.. As far as the valves i have read that .002 is the spec Henner suggests but that is quite close. I adjusted mine at .004 for now and im sure it will get tight sooner rather than later buying me some time for the next one.

Nutcracker · 09-15-2022, 10:02 PM

Gentleman Ebay now has ZS172FMM-5 in stock grabbing myself one now..

https://www.ebay.com/itm/30462970692...mis&media=COPY

Nutcracker · 09-15-2022, 10:47 PM

I am also hearing a ticking/tapping noise coming from the engine. Could it be loose valves? I plan on checking the clearance tonight, but I have no idea what it should be? Any suggestions on valve clearance values? Thanks[/QUOTE]

Good idea to check Valve Clearance especially having tapping noises. My 5 speed TemplarX & Spare motor came with Valves adjusted correctly but it's recommended to adjust correctly in the assembly instructions. Over my first 1100 miles ( checking every 300 miles) I've adjusted mine 4 times. Exhaust had tighten up each time. I'm using .06 & .07mm.

Interesting but the motor has smoothed out some. I can definitely notice less vibration below 6k RPM. Probably a sign somethings about to break because I give this thing heck.

JRust · 09-15-2022, 11:14 PM

I set mine to 0.005 in. exhaust and 0.003 in. Intake. ��♂️ Is this too loose?

tknj99 · 09-16-2022, 08:38 AM

I think valves can only tighten with time so if they are set alittle loose (mine are at .004) it will probably only be a few months before they wind up at the recommended .002

tknj99 · 09-16-2022, 08:50 AM

Has anyone removed the header and muffler yet on the Templar? Is the cat in the header at the bulge or in the muffler? Would be nice to uncork it for some extra power

Thumper · 09-16-2022, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nutcracker

Gentleman Ebay now has ZS172FMM-5 in stock grabbing myself one now..

https://www.ebay.com/itm/30462970692...mis&media=COPY

Nice!!

chinazuki · 09-16-2022, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Nutcracker

but it's recommended to adjust correctly in the assembly instructions. .

Is that the PDF at powersports?

tknj99 · 09-16-2022, 05:26 PM

Mine only came with a general usage guide. Where can we find the assembly/maintenance specs documents?

tknj99 · 09-16-2022, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tknj99

Has anyone removed the header and muffler yet on the Templar? Is the cat in the header at the bulge or in the muffler? Would be nice to uncork it for some extra power

To answer my own question, it looks like the bulge at the header section is indeed the cat.. i ran a sink snake from the muffler until i couldnt feed anymore and it came to the beginning of that bulge section

Thumper · 09-16-2022, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tknj99

To answer my own question, it looks like the bulge at the header section is indeed the cat.. i ran a sink snake from the muffler until i couldnt feed anymore and it came to the beginning of that bulge section

This makes perfect sense. It is an EPA certified bike. The best solution would be adding a "chamber" like you see on new 4 strokes just above the cat placement. I can't do it! I do have a tombstone welder, and a MIG welder, but haven't ventured into Stainless steel.

tknj99 · 09-16-2022, 07:50 PM

I'm wondering if any Ebay/Amazon exhausts fit on this bike. I looked at the Stoneman exhaust i have on the Brozz and it looks close but not exactly the same bends

buzz · 09-16-2022, 07:53 PM

Hi its the cat

dslfrk · 09-16-2022, 08:49 PM

Yeah, I've been looking for a way around having the cat in the exhaust. My Orion RXB with the same engine has more top end power in good shape but the exhaust pipe has a different bend to it so can't use that. The cat does make it quieter though.

09-15-2022, 04:50 PM	#677
tknj99 Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Central VA Posts: 1,258	I dont have any spinning issues for the front wheel.. For the rear wheel i also found it to be sticking on the brake. The remedy as advised in this thread is to install a big washer on the inside of the wheel assembly right after the brake and against the inside of the right swingarm edge. There is a pic i posted in my thread for it.. As far as the valves i have read that .002 is the spec Henner suggests but that is quite close. I adjusted mine at .004 for now and im sure it will get tight sooner rather than later buying me some time for the next one. __________________ 2024 Zuma Storm 150 DLX 2019 Beta 430 RRS 2018 VStrom 1000 XT Former China Bikes: Tao DBX1, Brozz 250, CSC RX4, Titan DLX, Templar X
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09-16-2022, 08:38 AM	#681
tknj99 Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Central VA Posts: 1,258	I think valves can only tighten with time so if they are set alittle loose (mine are at .004) it will probably only be a few months before they wind up at the recommended .002 __________________ 2024 Zuma Storm 150 DLX 2019 Beta 430 RRS 2018 VStrom 1000 XT Former China Bikes: Tao DBX1, Brozz 250, CSC RX4, Titan DLX, Templar X
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09-16-2022, 08:50 AM	#682
tknj99 Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Central VA Posts: 1,258	Has anyone removed the header and muffler yet on the Templar? Is the cat in the header at the bulge or in the muffler? Would be nice to uncork it for some extra power __________________ 2024 Zuma Storm 150 DLX 2019 Beta 430 RRS 2018 VStrom 1000 XT Former China Bikes: Tao DBX1, Brozz 250, CSC RX4, Titan DLX, Templar X
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09-16-2022, 05:26 PM	#685
tknj99 Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Central VA Posts: 1,258	Mine only came with a general usage guide. Where can we find the assembly/maintenance specs documents? __________________ 2024 Zuma Storm 150 DLX 2019 Beta 430 RRS 2018 VStrom 1000 XT Former China Bikes: Tao DBX1, Brozz 250, CSC RX4, Titan DLX, Templar X
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09-16-2022, 07:50 PM	#688
tknj99 Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Central VA Posts: 1,258	I'm wondering if any Ebay/Amazon exhausts fit on this bike. I looked at the Stoneman exhaust i have on the Brozz and it looks close but not exactly the same bends __________________ 2024 Zuma Storm 150 DLX 2019 Beta 430 RRS 2018 VStrom 1000 XT Former China Bikes: Tao DBX1, Brozz 250, CSC RX4, Titan DLX, Templar X
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09-15-2022, 04:14 PM	#676
JRust Join Date: Aug 2022 Posts: 20	Got my 6 speed TempX in! I greased every bearing I could find and put blue threadlocker on most the bolts. I couldn't find any torque specs, so I just used common values from other bikes. I changed the oil, ran it for 20 min, then changed it again. Just got my spoke torque wrench in, so I need to check the spokes. I plan on riding it around a bit and see how it performs before I jet the carb. I have a few issues that I need help/advice with. First, the wheel bearings on the front and rear wheels are very stiff. I mean, I can get them to turn, but it takes a lot. Are stiff bearings normal? I'm hoping that they will loosen up after riding a bit. I am also hearing a ticking/tapping noise coming from the engine. Could it be loose valves? I plan on checking the clearance tonight, but I have no idea what it should be? Any suggestions on valve clearance values? Thanks
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09-15-2022, 10:02 PM	#678
Nutcracker Join Date: Mar 2022 Posts: 107	Gentleman Ebay now has ZS172FMM-5 in stock grabbing myself one now.. https://www.ebay.com/itm/30462970692...mis&media=COPY
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09-15-2022, 10:47 PM	#679
Nutcracker Join Date: Mar 2022 Posts: 107	I am also hearing a ticking/tapping noise coming from the engine. Could it be loose valves? I plan on checking the clearance tonight, but I have no idea what it should be? Any suggestions on valve clearance values? Thanks[/QUOTE] Good idea to check Valve Clearance especially having tapping noises. My 5 speed TemplarX & Spare motor came with Valves adjusted correctly but it's recommended to adjust correctly in the assembly instructions. Over my first 1100 miles ( checking every 300 miles) I've adjusted mine 4 times. Exhaust had tighten up each time. I'm using .06 & .07mm. Interesting but the motor has smoothed out some. I can definitely notice less vibration below 6k RPM. Probably a sign somethings about to break because I give this thing heck.
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09-15-2022, 11:14 PM	#680
JRust Join Date: Aug 2022 Posts: 20	I set mine to 0.005 in. exhaust and 0.003 in. Intake. ��♂️ Is this too loose?
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09-16-2022, 07:53 PM	#689
buzz Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: Dayton Pa. Posts: 862	Hi its the cat
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09-16-2022, 08:49 PM	#690
dslfrk Join Date: Aug 2022 Location: Vermont Posts: 14	Yeah, I've been looking for a way around having the cat in the exhaust. My Orion RXB with the same engine has more top end power in good shape but the exhaust pipe has a different bend to it so can't use that. The cat does make it quieter though.
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