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Old 04-24-2024, 01:25 PM   #1
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After a little reading, the 450MT is the name for the global market while in the US, it is the Ibex 450.
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Old 04-24-2024, 05:55 PM   #2
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Back on topic....

I currently have a jtr269.47 rear. My bike came with jtr269.45 and the 17t front from the previous owner, but he returned the Hawk to stock and gave me the parts on the side. So I worked my way through those before getting the 47. Each one gave me a little better top speed. I also just re-did my valve adjustment. I'm much happier with the results this time.

I don't go on the highway with this hawk. And I don't or haven't really been trail riding with it tho I'd like to. The roads i ride on are 35 to 55 speed limit and I don't stay on the 55 roads for long. My commute to work is only a few miles. I don't chase top speed, but I am curious what it can do.
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Old 04-24-2024, 07:20 PM   #3
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A 17/47 on most Hawks should be able to easily hit 65mph and will cruise along at 55 nicely, without the engine sitting at 8000rpm to do so.

If you go to www.gearingcommander.com and select the RPS Hawk 250, you can play around with sprocket combinations and tire sizes to see where you end up at different RPM in different gears.

I used it to look at a Hawk on the stock rear tire size with a 17/47 sprocket setup and it puts you at 63mph right at 7000rpm. So it should be able to hit 65 right around 7300, and in theory 70mph at about 7800. with a 45 rear sprocket, 65mph happens at 7000.

In my experience, top speed, regardless of the sprockets (other than the stock), tends to happen right at power peak, which is right around 7200-7300rpm. That is why most people with the 17/45 top out right around 68mph. 68mph also seems to be the limit of the CG250's ability to force a Hawk through the air, because after that, only the smallest and lightest riders can squeeze a couple more mph out of them, even with smaller rear sprockets.
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Old 04-24-2024, 09:53 PM   #4
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I think the 450 MT will be a sleeper hit. As the price goes up I have a tendency like Dan to think what else is better. I like RE but they’ve had some things like the early polished aluminum wire without any protective layers that just gets fugly if you don’t maintain it as it ages. Modern RE are coming blacked out etc to get some protection and less maintenance. They’ve had issues with the clocks aka gauges with condensation etc. Small things but reminders that no one bike is perfect.
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Old 04-24-2024, 10:15 PM   #5
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I think the 450 MT will be a sleeper hit. As the price goes up I have a tendency like Dan to think what else is better. I like RE but they’ve had some things like the early polished aluminum wire without any protective layers that just gets fugly if you don’t maintain it as it ages. Modern RE are coming blacked out etc to get some protection and less maintenance. They’ve had issues with the clocks aka gauges with condensation etc. Small things but reminders that no one bike is perfect.
The only real difference between a CF Moto and a Royal Enfield is the dealer and service network. The CF Moto bikes are still sold by random retailers, many of whom don't offer any servicing, just the bikes. I can take my new RE to the dealer I bought it from and have warranty service performed/covered on the spot.
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Old 04-28-2024, 08:24 AM   #6
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That bike is going to be sold here as the Ibex 450. I'm fairly certain it hasn't been released yet for the U.S. Market as it is a 2025 model year release. At best it will probably start being sold some time late summer or early fall. You can always contact a CF Moto dealer and inquire.

The 400-500cc ADV bike market is really starting to take off too. The new Himalayan with it's water cooled single, The KTM 290 Adventure, the Kove FSE 450R, and the vanilla ice cream CB500X just doing Honda things.

The CF Moto is pretty neat though. It's features and spec sheet make me think of it as a half sized Africa Twin for 40% of the price.
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Old 04-28-2024, 10:09 PM   #7
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Meanwhile, here I am content on a 529lb (wet) bike with 47 rampaging hp and a 22hp cg250 powered Hawk. lol
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