Hawk Clutch problem

Lit Hawk · 09-11-2018, 09:29 PM

So yesterday I was riding some trails with some high grass and all of a sudden my rear wheel stopped spinning. Seemed like the clutch wasn’t engaged so I tried to adjust clutch lever and was really tight. So I had to leave the bike over night and walk home, this morning I got my tools headed to my bike and had to release my clutch cable as much as it would go to finally get the clutch engaged and it still feels like it’s not fully engaged. Well I was able to get it home but felt like I was riding the clutch the whole way so I couldn’t get enough speed to get out of second. Bike was running fine before, clutch was adjusted good but now it seems like I need a longer cable to fully engage the clutch. I just took side cover off and inspected clutch I could find nothing wrong. Any ideas on what could have happened, I need y’all help.

Lit Hawk · 09-12-2018, 12:09 AM

Figured it out!! Worn clutch plates, I guess they got warped. Should have known by the lack of slack and definitely the smell. It’s pretty distinct. Rolling once again!

**JerryHawk250** · 09-12-2018, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Lit Hawk

Figured it out!! Worn clutch plates, I guess they got warped. Should have known by the lack of slack and definitely the smell. It’s pretty distinct. Rolling once again!

Did you pull the clutch pack from the old spare parts engine?

AresROC · 09-12-2018, 01:11 AM

Wow, how many miles did you get out of your original clutch?

And do y'all use clutch to change gears or not?

timcosby · 09-12-2018, 02:52 AM

i sometimes dont use the clutch to change gears. its easier gojng up thru the gears than going down but with practice you can go down too.

Lit Hawk · 09-12-2018, 09:34 AM

Not sure on how many miles because my speedometers broke but not that many miles. I was a dumbass though and forgot to screw the dipstick in after putting oil in and rode it for about 5 min before I noticed

luckily I was right by an auto parts store. Only lost about half a quart so I topped it off and sprayed the bike down with a whole can of degreaser. Oil was everywhere (please don’t judge me) bike ran fine though. Went home inspected bikeveverything looked fine except for the weird smell. I thought might have been oil burn. Took the bike to the car wash and went riding some more. Ended up in some wood trails and I had to ride the clutch a lot to get through the tall grass and mud and that’s where my clutch finally gave. Must have been on verge of warping from no oil. When I inspected them they looked fine, I cleaned them and put back together. Bike still did the same so more research online on how the clutch actually works and symptoms of warped disks. I took it back apart and put in different clutch disks. I could tell right away with how the clutch arm felt compared to the burnt onesthat that was the problem.

**JerryHawk250** · 09-12-2018, 09:42 AM

What sprockets are you running when you trail riding? Too tall a gear ratio can put a load on the clutch. That's why I swap out from a 17 to a 15 on the front for trail and mud.

Lit Hawk · 09-12-2018, 12:06 PM

I run a 16/43. Pretty stupid of me to try riding through all that mud and tall grass. Also had the wife on the back. We were trying to get to the beach next to the creek. Never made it and had to walk about an hour home. She wasn’t to happy. Live and learn, won’t make that mistake again

09-11-2018, 09:29 PM	#1
Lit Hawk Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Houston,Tx Posts: 257	Hawk Clutch problem So yesterday I was riding some trails with some high grass and all of a sudden my rear wheel stopped spinning. Seemed like the clutch wasn’t engaged so I tried to adjust clutch lever and was really tight. So I had to leave the bike over night and walk home, this morning I got my tools headed to my bike and had to release my clutch cable as much as it would go to finally get the clutch engaged and it still feels like it’s not fully engaged. Well I was able to get it home but felt like I was riding the clutch the whole way so I couldn’t get enough speed to get out of second. Bike was running fine before, clutch was adjusted good but now it seems like I need a longer cable to fully engage the clutch. I just took side cover off and inspected clutch I could find nothing wrong. Any ideas on what could have happened, I need y’all help.
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09-12-2018, 01:11 AM	#4
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09-12-2018, 02:52 AM	#5
timcosby Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: robertsdale alabama usa Posts: 1,007	i sometimes dont use the clutch to change gears. its easier gojng up thru the gears than going down but with practice you can go down too. __________________ 1991 harley heritage softail classic 2016 hawk kaw h1 400 tripple 13' long chopper in progress 2009 johnny pag bar hog 2004 hd electra glide ultra classic shriner edition 1997 harley davidson 1200 sportster 1972 harley davidson amf sx250
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09-12-2018, 09:42 AM	#7
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,555	What sprockets are you running when you trail riding? Too tall a gear ratio can put a load on the clutch. That's why I swap out from a 17 to a 15 on the front for trail and mud. __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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09-12-2018, 12:09 AM	#2
Lit Hawk Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Houston,Tx Posts: 257	Figured it out!! Worn clutch plates, I guess they got warped. Should have known by the lack of slack and definitely the smell. It’s pretty distinct. Rolling once again!
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09-12-2018, 09:34 AM	#6
Lit Hawk Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Houston,Tx Posts: 257	Not sure on how many miles because my speedometers broke but not that many miles. I was a dumbass though and forgot to screw the dipstick in after putting oil in and rode it for about 5 min before I noticed luckily I was right by an auto parts store. Only lost about half a quart so I topped it off and sprayed the bike down with a whole can of degreaser. Oil was everywhere (please don’t judge me) bike ran fine though. Went home inspected bikeveverything looked fine except for the weird smell. I thought might have been oil burn. Took the bike to the car wash and went riding some more. Ended up in some wood trails and I had to ride the clutch a lot to get through the tall grass and mud and that’s where my clutch finally gave. Must have been on verge of warping from no oil. When I inspected them they looked fine, I cleaned them and put back together. Bike still did the same so more research online on how the clutch actually works and symptoms of warped disks. I took it back apart and put in different clutch disks. I could tell right away with how the clutch arm felt compared to the burnt onesthat that was the problem.
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09-12-2018, 12:06 PM	#8
Lit Hawk Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Houston,Tx Posts: 257	I run a 16/43. Pretty stupid of me to try riding through all that mud and tall grass. Also had the wife on the back. We were trying to get to the beach next to the creek. Never made it and had to walk about an hour home. She wasn’t to happy. Live and learn, won’t make that mistake again
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