Battery for electric gloves and jacket liner

FastDoc · 12-12-2013, 05:12 PM

I am looking for a battery to power my electric gloves and jacket liner while on the YZ400F as it does not have a charging system.

The criteria are light weight, small enough to put in an oversized pocket, and have bolt on connectors, and be spillproof, and be easy to recharge with no special equipment, and be durable enough to last.

The Gerbing battery for this purpose is $200, so it should be less than that, or otherwise I'd just get th specific one.

SpudRider · 12-12-2013, 08:21 PM

I assume the Gerbing is a lithium ion battery. Right off the bat, I can suggest three choices.

1. Get an Antigravity 4-Cell battery from Rocky Mountain ATV/MC.

http://antigravitybatteries.com/ag-401/

http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/...ity%204%20cell

With a 10 percent off, coupon code, this lithium-iron-phosphate (LiFePO4) battery will cost about $100. However, I believe the LiFePO4 batteries don't like being drained repeatedly. Therefore, you would also need to get the Antigravity charger, which costs about $55.

http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/...attery-Charger

This battery is powerful enough to start my Honda XR650L.

However, I would check with the tech support at Antigravity Batteries, to ensure the battery longevity would not be compromised if the battery is repeatedly drained while powering your heated gear.

2. Get an Antigravity Microstart XP-1.

http://antigravitybatteries.com/microstartxp1/

This unit can also jump start your truck, if necessary.

I realize this product doesn't have the connectors you specified, but it's such a cool product, I wanted to mention it. Of course, you could fabricate the appropriate connectors.

Once again, I would check with the tech support at Antigravity Batteries, to ensure the battery longevity would not be compromised while powering your heated gear.

3. Get a less expensive, generic, lithium battery pack, and add the proper connectors. You can try the following vendor.

http://www.batteryspace.com/li-ionpacks37-89v.aspx

FastDoc · 12-13-2013, 11:59 AM

Very interesting!

I can't believe something the size of a couple packs od cigarettes can start my truck.

That deal is pricey at $150, but it looks like it may have many uses beyond what I need it for and may come in handy someday in the airplane or elsewhere.

I'll call when I can and get more info.

Thanks for your help Spud, more questions to follow.

BTW that unit works best for me. It has a place to plug in a male coaxial connector. That's what the Gerbings use!

FastDoc · 12-13-2013, 12:02 PM

It looks like choice 2 is the best.

The price is the same as choice 1 when you figure in the charger, and it does more.

FastDoc · 12-13-2013, 02:41 PM

I called tech support at Antigravity. Nice guy, Eric, knew the product and helped me a lot. He said he's giving me a discount if I report back and tell him how well it works for future reference. He also said if it does not live up to my expectations he will take it back.

I think I will order, and let you know how well it does. Thanks for your help, Spud.

SpudRider · 12-13-2013, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by FastDoc

I called tech support at Antigravity. Nice guy, Eric, knew the product and helped me a lot. He said he's giving me a discount if I report back and tell him how well it works for future reference. He also said if it does not live up to my expectations he will take it back.

I think I will order, and let you know how well it does. Thanks for your help, Spud.

That is so cool!

I wish I could get a discount on that product!

FastDoc · 12-13-2013, 04:03 PM

The discount code is 'horse'.

:-)

FastDoc · 12-13-2013, 04:06 PM

I don't remember the equation...

If something draws 30 watts at 12 volts how long will a 4 amp/hour battery last?

SpudRider · 12-13-2013, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FastDoc

The discount code is 'horse'.

:-)

Are you kidding? If not, how much is the discount?

SpudRider · 12-13-2013, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FastDoc

I don't remember the equation...

If something draws 30 watts at 12 volts how long will a 4 amp/hour battery last?

P=I x E

30 watts = 12 volts times (X amps)

30 watts/12 volts = 2.5 amps

4 amp-hours/2.5 amps = 1.6 hours

FastDoc · 12-13-2013, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpudRider

Are you kidding? If not, how much is the discount?

Not kidding.

10%

FastDoc · 12-13-2013, 04:18 PM

1.6 hours is not very long, but I have hardly ever needed to have the gloves on 'high'. I bet at medium or low they will last over 2 hours, maybe even 3. At that rate they will keep me warm for most midwinter YZ400F rides.

SpudRider · 12-13-2013, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FastDoc

Not kidding.

10%

Rocky Mountain ATV is selling the Microstart XP-1 for $143.95.

http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/...FUdbfgodDSIAoQ

Use a ten percent off, coupon code, and the price is $129.36, with free delivery.

SpudRider · 12-13-2013, 04:39 PM

Rocky Mountain ATV is also selling the Microstart XP-3 for $116.95.

It lacks the carrying case, and some of the adapters. Also, it might lack the power port you need.

However, it is an inch shorter, and 2 ounces lighter.

http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/...FUdbfgodDSIAoQ

Use a ten percent off, coupon code, and you can purchase the Microstart XP-3 for $105.26, with free delivery.

FastDoc · 12-13-2013, 04:41 PM

Do you have a coupon code for them?

I wonder if I can return it to them if I don't like it...

Hey, I have some money left over in my account at RM...

12-12-2013, 05:12 PM	#1
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	Battery for electric gloves and jacket liner I am looking for a battery to power my electric gloves and jacket liner while on the YZ400F as it does not have a charging system. The criteria are light weight, small enough to put in an oversized pocket, and have bolt on connectors, and be spillproof, and be easy to recharge with no special equipment, and be durable enough to last. The Gerbing battery for this purpose is $200, so it should be less than that, or otherwise I'd just get th specific one. __________________ Happy to serve.
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12-12-2013, 08:21 PM	#2
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	I assume the Gerbing is a lithium ion battery. Right off the bat, I can suggest three choices. 1. Get an Antigravity 4-Cell battery from Rocky Mountain ATV/MC. http://antigravitybatteries.com/ag-401/ http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/...ity%204%20cell With a 10 percent off, coupon code, this lithium-iron-phosphate (LiFePO4) battery will cost about $100. However, I believe the LiFePO4 batteries don't like being drained repeatedly. Therefore, you would also need to get the Antigravity charger, which costs about $55. http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/...attery-Charger This battery is powerful enough to start my Honda XR650L. However, I would check with the tech support at Antigravity Batteries, to ensure the battery longevity would not be compromised if the battery is repeatedly drained while powering your heated gear. 2. Get an Antigravity Microstart XP-1. http://antigravitybatteries.com/microstartxp1/ This unit can also jump start your truck, if necessary. I realize this product doesn't have the connectors you specified, but it's such a cool product, I wanted to mention it. Of course, you could fabricate the appropriate connectors. Once again, I would check with the tech support at Antigravity Batteries, to ensure the battery longevity would not be compromised while powering your heated gear. 3. Get a less expensive, generic, lithium battery pack, and add the proper connectors. You can try the following vendor. http://www.batteryspace.com/li-ionpacks37-89v.aspx __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894 Last edited by SpudRider; 12-12-2013 at 09:34 PM.
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12-13-2013, 11:59 AM	#3
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	Very interesting! I can't believe something the size of a couple packs od cigarettes can start my truck. That deal is pricey at $150, but it looks like it may have many uses beyond what I need it for and may come in handy someday in the airplane or elsewhere. I'll call when I can and get more info. Thanks for your help Spud, more questions to follow. BTW that unit works best for me. It has a place to plug in a male coaxial connector. That's what the Gerbings use! __________________ Happy to serve.
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12-13-2013, 12:02 PM	#4
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	It looks like choice 2 is the best. The price is the same as choice 1 when you figure in the charger, and it does more. __________________ Happy to serve.
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12-13-2013, 02:41 PM	#5
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	I called tech support at Antigravity. Nice guy, Eric, knew the product and helped me a lot. He said he's giving me a discount if I report back and tell him how well it works for future reference. He also said if it does not live up to my expectations he will take it back. I think I will order, and let you know how well it does. Thanks for your help, Spud. __________________ Happy to serve.
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12-13-2013, 04:03 PM	#7
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	The discount code is 'horse'. :-) __________________ Happy to serve.
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12-13-2013, 04:06 PM	#8
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	I don't remember the equation... If something draws 30 watts at 12 volts how long will a 4 amp/hour battery last? __________________ Happy to serve.
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12-13-2013, 04:18 PM	#12
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	1.6 hours is not very long, but I have hardly ever needed to have the gloves on 'high'. I bet at medium or low they will last over 2 hours, maybe even 3. At that rate they will keep me warm for most midwinter YZ400F rides. __________________ Happy to serve.
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12-13-2013, 04:39 PM	#14
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	Rocky Mountain ATV is also selling the Microstart XP-3 for $116.95. It lacks the carrying case, and some of the adapters. Also, it might lack the power port you need. However, it is an inch shorter, and 2 ounces lighter. http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/...FUdbfgodDSIAoQ Use a ten percent off, coupon code, and you can purchase the Microstart XP-3 for $105.26, with free delivery. __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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12-13-2013, 04:41 PM	#15
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	Do you have a coupon code for them? I wonder if I can return it to them if I don't like it... Hey, I have some money left over in my account at RM... __________________ Happy to serve.
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