Spot the Hawk

Ichrisbot · 03-14-2016, 03:49 PM

Shouldn't be to hard, with the low seat height compared to the dirt-bikes, and the tail light obviously lol.

Did my first ever race at a hare scramble here last weekend! Don't plan on racing more, but just wanted the experience of riding in one after watching a bunch of moto-x and enduro racing.
Passed a few riders, but mostly just got passed (I became pretty familiar with the backs of 2-3 people who lapped me a couple times too lol).
Wrecked a couple times, but was able to do a quick pit stop to bend the shifting lever back into a usable position and finish the race, ended up riding and finishing the full 90 minute race and it was brutal.
The Hawk definitely isn't cut out for racing, but it got me through the whole way which I think is saying something.
It does make me want to get a purpose made enduro or dirt-bike, although I'd gladly ride a Chinese one if it fit the bill.

Ichrisbot · 03-14-2016, 03:54 PM

Not the kind of bike you expect to see racing numbers on lol.

Sport Rider · 03-14-2016, 03:57 PM

black second row from the back in the middle?

2LZ · 03-14-2016, 04:12 PM

AWESOME! A great adventure and a great Hawk showing! Nice to represent CR's like that too. :-)
BTW, SSR builds a purpose built MX bike. The mags say that "with a little help", they can do the job....and I'd say you're in front of the guy in the torquoise...

Ichrisbot · 03-14-2016, 04:34 PM

Yep, you both got it. Next to those other bikes I look short, although pretty sure I'm taller than most of them at 6'1" normally lol.

Adjuster · 03-14-2016, 05:08 PM

Wow good job getting the Hawk out there! Can you see if anyone possibly uploaded some YouTube videos of this event?

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Adjuster · 03-14-2016, 05:09 PM

Those other bikes must be crazy tall. I thought the Hawk came in at 33" or so?

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Ichrisbot · 03-14-2016, 05:13 PM

I'll keep my eye out for videos, I also had my go-pro on but the video quality sucks due to dust and mud getting on it pretty much right off the bat.

I think the hawk looks a bit shorter due to the dip in the saddle, it's a piece of cake for me to flat-foot on both sides. On even a smallish 125 or 250 dirt bike I'm either on my toes or leaning to one side.

SpudRider · 03-14-2016, 05:53 PM

Where's Waldo?

Kudos for entering the Hare Scramble.

P.S. I also found you in the photo.

Azhule · 03-14-2016, 06:37 PM

Just in front of a rider in Teal (and to the left of the orange camelback) is where I see a HAWK in it's 'natural' environment

Ichrisbot · 03-15-2016, 12:14 PM

As comfy as the seat is on the Hawk, I can clearly see why the saddles are so high on the more hardcore dirt bikes and enduros. My knees are still toast from all the standing up and sitting back down, it's a long way to get back down to the seat, whereas on the taller bikes you are already in almost an upright position when riding seated. Not as much movement to get fully stood up.

Anyways, now that I got the racing itch more or less out of my system, I think I'm ready to convert the bike back to it's original dual-sport configuration and get it plated.

I feel like I'm running into some of its limitations by treating it like a pure dirt-bike, mainly the suspension travel and weight when hitting good sized bumps and jumps at high speed, and wrestling with the weight a little bit when the bike gets squirrelly in sand.
But as damn reliable as it's been, especially after getting crashed and abused a ton, I think it's going to be my go-to for riding out to the trails in the mountains and back home.
The relatively low power hasn't bothered me, it still gets around well, and I figure I'm trading some power for a really bullet-proof engine.

kohburn · 03-15-2016, 12:25 PM

I imagine a number of those were 2smokes with twice the power as you.

Allinarush · 01-12-2019, 07:17 PM

Wow, is the hawk really that much shorter? I bought a 295mm shock which will make it even shorter. Any pics of it side by side with dirt bikes?

Megadan · 01-12-2019, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Allinarush

Wow, is the hawk really that much shorter? I bought a 295mm shock which will make it even shorter. Any pics of it side by side with dirt bikes?

A typical motocross bike has a 37 to 38 inch seat height vs the Hawks 35. Doesnt sound like much, but it makes a difference. The bigger factor is that MX bike seats are more or less flat front to back while the Hawk seat dips down fairly low in relation to the pegs and tank. Sitting lower in the bike and being more rigidly locked in place so that you cant shift back and forth in the seat.

pete · 01-13-2019, 02:15 AM

looks like very fast terrain...
how long was the circuit

I haven't ridden a hare scramble for years
our tracks were 10km plus race's were 3 hours in length..
and a lot more hilly... but that's just the NZ terrain we have to use..

I never was that good at MX or Hare Scrambles.. just wasn't fast enough..
But enduro's were a different story... not much would slow me or stop me...

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03-14-2016, 03:49 PM	#1
Ichrisbot Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 108	Spot the Hawk Shouldn't be to hard, with the low seat height compared to the dirt-bikes, and the tail light obviously lol. Did my first ever race at a hare scramble here last weekend! Don't plan on racing more, but just wanted the experience of riding in one after watching a bunch of moto-x and enduro racing. Passed a few riders, but mostly just got passed (I became pretty familiar with the backs of 2-3 people who lapped me a couple times too lol). Wrecked a couple times, but was able to do a quick pit stop to bend the shifting lever back into a usable position and finish the race, ended up riding and finishing the full 90 minute race and it was brutal. The Hawk definitely isn't cut out for racing, but it got me through the whole way which I think is saying something. It does make me want to get a purpose made enduro or dirt-bike, although I'd gladly ride a Chinese one if it fit the bill.
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03-14-2016, 04:12 PM	#4
2LZ Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Volcano, Ca Posts: 7,092	AWESOME! A great adventure and a great Hawk showing! Nice to represent CR's like that too. :-) BTW, SSR builds a purpose built MX bike. The mags say that "with a little help", they can do the job....and I'd say you're in front of the guy in the torquoise... __________________ "Light a fire for a man, and you heat him for a day. Light a man on fire, and you heat him for the rest of his life." 2007 Suzuki DRZ400S (SM convert) 2009 Q Link XP 200 1967 BSA B25 250cc Starfire 2022 Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 2023 Royal Enfield Scram 411 1948 Royal Enfield Model G 350
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03-14-2016, 05:53 PM	#9
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	Where's Waldo? Kudos for entering the Hare Scramble. P.S. I also found you in the photo. __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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03-14-2016, 06:37 PM	#10
Azhule Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: CO Posts: 1,525	Just in front of a rider in Teal (and to the left of the orange camelback) is where I see a HAWK in it's 'natural' environment __________________ "Think as you like... but this self proclaimed Professor is always right" - Buckshot "You never know what someone is hiding beneath their smile..." - NinjaTom - R.I.P.
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03-15-2016, 12:25 PM	#12
kohburn Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Coastal NC Posts: 537	I imagine a number of those were 2smokes with twice the power as you. __________________ -whatever you do, just be awesome. - 2008 Kawasaki Versys - 2016 CSC TT250
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03-14-2016, 03:54 PM	#2
Ichrisbot Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 108	Not the kind of bike you expect to see racing numbers on lol.
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03-14-2016, 03:57 PM	#3
Sport Rider Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Mooresville NC Posts: 2,044	black second row from the back in the middle?
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03-14-2016, 04:34 PM	#5
Ichrisbot Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 108	Yep, you both got it. Next to those other bikes I look short, although pretty sure I'm taller than most of them at 6'1" normally lol.
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03-14-2016, 05:08 PM	#6
Adjuster Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Deerfield Beach FL Posts: 1,410	Wow good job getting the Hawk out there! Can you see if anyone possibly uploaded some YouTube videos of this event? /
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03-14-2016, 05:09 PM	#7
Adjuster Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Deerfield Beach FL Posts: 1,410	Those other bikes must be crazy tall. I thought the Hawk came in at 33" or so? /
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03-14-2016, 05:13 PM	#8
Ichrisbot Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 108	I'll keep my eye out for videos, I also had my go-pro on but the video quality sucks due to dust and mud getting on it pretty much right off the bat. I think the hawk looks a bit shorter due to the dip in the saddle, it's a piece of cake for me to flat-foot on both sides. On even a smallish 125 or 250 dirt bike I'm either on my toes or leaning to one side.
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03-15-2016, 12:14 PM	#11
Ichrisbot Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 108	As comfy as the seat is on the Hawk, I can clearly see why the saddles are so high on the more hardcore dirt bikes and enduros. My knees are still toast from all the standing up and sitting back down, it's a long way to get back down to the seat, whereas on the taller bikes you are already in almost an upright position when riding seated. Not as much movement to get fully stood up. Anyways, now that I got the racing itch more or less out of my system, I think I'm ready to convert the bike back to it's original dual-sport configuration and get it plated. I feel like I'm running into some of its limitations by treating it like a pure dirt-bike, mainly the suspension travel and weight when hitting good sized bumps and jumps at high speed, and wrestling with the weight a little bit when the bike gets squirrelly in sand. But as damn reliable as it's been, especially after getting crashed and abused a ton, I think it's going to be my go-to for riding out to the trails in the mountains and back home. The relatively low power hasn't bothered me, it still gets around well, and I figure I'm trading some power for a really bullet-proof engine.
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01-12-2019, 07:17 PM	#13
Allinarush Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 38	Wow, is the hawk really that much shorter? I bought a 295mm shock which will make it even shorter. Any pics of it side by side with dirt bikes?
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01-13-2019, 02:15 AM	#15
pete Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: ChCh , NZ Posts: 2,261	looks like very fast terrain... how long was the circuit I haven't ridden a hare scramble for years our tracks were 10km plus race's were 3 hours in length.. and a lot more hilly... but that's just the NZ terrain we have to use.. I never was that good at MX or Hare Scrambles.. just wasn't fast enough.. But enduro's were a different story... not much would slow me or stop me... ... __________________ 09 XT660R ... 06 TTR250 ... 80 Montesa H6 125 Enduro... 77 Montesa Cota 348 MRR "Malcom Rathnell Replica"... Current resto projects.. 81 Honda CT110... 80 Kawasaki KL250A1... 11 Husaburg TE125 enduro... "sold" along with another 31... Lifan 125 Pitbike.. "stolen" ... KIWI BIKER FORUM...... http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/content.php All the best offroad rides in NZ... http://www.remotemoto.com/ E-mail... xtpete1@gmail.com
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