making my own sulfuric acid battery question Hs200

bbbdan777 · 03-26-2011, 10:23 PM

I got the Hs200 and it came with a unmade battery that you have to do yourself with no guide on how to set it up. Anyone know how much and how to properly make this raw battery. Here is a pic

MICRider · 03-26-2011, 11:09 PM

I'm guessing that you bought a new battery and it came with the acid in a separate bottle? Some batteries come with a special acid holder that fills all the cells at the same time, but most of the smaller batteries just come with a square plastic jug of sulphuric acid. Here's a short Youtube vid that shows you how to fill the battery, not much to it but be careful.

Barnone · 03-26-2011, 11:09 PM

bbbdan,
Did you get a container of battery acid with the battery?
Watch this video to prep your new battery.

There are plenty more to watch also.

EDIT I see MIC beat me to it.

MICRider · 03-26-2011, 11:37 PM

Lol, we posted at the same time! Well, lots of videos to choose from

. It really is easy, just be careful with the acid, not only can it burn you, but it burns nice holes in jeans, shirts, etc.

SpudRider · 03-26-2011, 11:55 PM

Great minds think alike, gentlemen!

Thank you for taking the time to help your fellow China Rider.

Spud

bbbdan777 · 03-27-2011, 01:41 AM

ya seriously , thanks guys for the speedy replys. Btw if i were to spill and/or need clean up the sulfuric acid can i just use a cloth to absorb it. How do you deal with incidents like that?

SpudRider · 03-27-2011, 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbbdan777

ya seriously , thanks guys for the speedy replys. Btw if i were to spill and/or need clean up the sulfuric acid can i just use a cloth to absorb it. How do you deal with incidents like that?

Rinse the area thoroughly with water. You can use a rag to absorb the acid if you are going to throw the rag away; otherwise, you can use a paper towel. If you get acid on your clothes, remove them as quickly as possible, soak them in water, and wash them. You might also want to apply some baking soda to the affected areas of your clothing. If you get acid on your hands, don't touch your clothes. Also, wash your hands thoroughly, as soon as you can.

Spud

humanbeing · 03-27-2011, 05:49 AM

generic reference for these black top : when dry / acid
http://www.tet-battery.com/imageRepo...c0f0c92e07.jpg

Thorgram · 03-27-2011, 08:38 AM

Spud stole my thunder, I was gonna sound smart too! :( I'll say it too anyway, baking soda wiil neutralize any spilled acid. Coca Cola will also do it I'm told. Not sure if that's Diet or Classic though.

I once used a 5 pound bag of baking soda to clean up a busted battery on an aircraft towing vehicle. The driver allegedly fell asleep and ran into a jet, busting the battery among other things.

katoranger · 03-27-2011, 08:43 AM

Just take your time filling it. You want to fill it between the lines.

Thorgram · 03-27-2011, 08:49 AM

I suppose I could have taken the time to give some practical advice but my funny bone got the best of me.
I've filled several large commercial batteries during deployments and while you do have to take your time and the acid is nothing to play with, it's not like mega dangerous until it's been sitting in the battery mixing with the lead. Like if you get it on you hand or something it won't burn instantly, like happens to supervillians in the movies. Gloves and saftey glasses are generally recommended cause even a little splashy drip won't feel nice on an eyeball.

Weldangrind · 03-27-2011, 12:15 PM

Since we're offering guidance about new battery use, please be extra careful when charging a battery. If you connect it to a charger to top it up before use (and you should), use a realatively low-amperage charger. I use a one amp charger for that purpose and charge it slowly.

When charging a battery, the gases that are emitted are extremely flammable. Don't charge any where near open flame or any ignition source, like a furnace pilot light. Don't smoke near a charging battery.

I have a friend who is very experienced about such things, and he connected a battery to a charger outside of his barn for safety. Later, he set up some steel on a Workmate that he needed to grind, and the sparks ignited the gases from the battery. He wasn't hurt, but it blew the battery wide open. I'm very thankful that his kids weren't nearby. 8O

SpudRider · 03-27-2011, 01:25 PM

Thanks for the tips, WaG.

Given their disadvantages, I believe the lead-acid batteries will probably soon be superceded by the LiFePO4 batteries.

I just bought a Shorai, lithium-iron battery for my XR650L, and I love it.

http://chinariders.net/modules.php?n...=asc&start=210

Spud

katoranger · 03-27-2011, 01:31 PM

I think Spud is right. Lead acid batteries are on the way out. New technology is becoming cost competitive.

Weld I believe you mean a one amp charger. My charger has a 2 amp setting and that is what I use. Outside.

MICRider · 03-27-2011, 01:35 PM

I might have missed it on the other thread but what are those new batteries worth? My KLR battery is the original one so I will probably be replacing it in a year or two...

03-26-2011, 10:23 PM	#1
bbbdan777 Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 93	making my own sulfuric acid battery question Hs200 I got the Hs200 and it came with a unmade battery that you have to do yourself with no guide on how to set it up. Anyone know how much and how to properly make this raw battery. Here is a pic
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03-26-2011, 11:55 PM	#5
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	Great minds think alike, gentlemen! Thank you for taking the time to help your fellow China Rider. Spud __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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03-27-2011, 08:43 AM	#10
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	Just take your time filling it. You want to fill it between the lines. __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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03-27-2011, 12:15 PM	#12
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Since we're offering guidance about new battery use, please be extra careful when charging a battery. If you connect it to a charger to top it up before use (and you should), use a realatively low-amperage charger. I use a one amp charger for that purpose and charge it slowly. When charging a battery, the gases that are emitted are extremely flammable. Don't charge any where near open flame or any ignition source, like a furnace pilot light. Don't smoke near a charging battery. I have a friend who is very experienced about such things, and he connected a battery to a charger outside of his barn for safety. Later, he set up some steel on a Workmate that he needed to grind, and the sparks ignited the gases from the battery. He wasn't hurt, but it blew the battery wide open. I'm very thankful that his kids weren't nearby. 8O __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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03-27-2011, 01:25 PM	#13
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	Thanks for the tips, WaG. Given their disadvantages, I believe the lead-acid batteries will probably soon be superceded by the LiFePO4 batteries. I just bought a Shorai, lithium-iron battery for my XR650L, and I love it. http://chinariders.net/modules.php?n...=asc&start=210 Spud __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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03-26-2011, 11:09 PM	#2
MICRider Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 3,274	I'm guessing that you bought a new battery and it came with the acid in a separate bottle? Some batteries come with a special acid holder that fills all the cells at the same time, but most of the smaller batteries just come with a square plastic jug of sulphuric acid. Here's a short Youtube vid that shows you how to fill the battery, not much to it but be careful.
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03-26-2011, 11:09 PM	#3
Barnone Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,354	bbbdan, Did you get a container of battery acid with the battery? Watch this video to prep your new battery. There are plenty more to watch also. EDIT I see MIC beat me to it.
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03-26-2011, 11:37 PM	#4
MICRider Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 3,274	Lol, we posted at the same time! Well, lots of videos to choose from . It really is easy, just be careful with the acid, not only can it burn you, but it burns nice holes in jeans, shirts, etc.
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03-27-2011, 01:41 AM	#6
bbbdan777 Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 93	ya seriously , thanks guys for the speedy replys. Btw if i were to spill and/or need clean up the sulfuric acid can i just use a cloth to absorb it. How do you deal with incidents like that?
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03-27-2011, 05:49 AM	#8
humanbeing Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,436	generic reference for these black top : when dry / acid http://www.tet-battery.com/imageRepo...c0f0c92e07.jpg
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03-27-2011, 08:38 AM	#9
Thorgram Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 145	Spud stole my thunder, I was gonna sound smart too! :( I'll say it too anyway, baking soda wiil neutralize any spilled acid. Coca Cola will also do it I'm told. Not sure if that's Diet or Classic though. I once used a 5 pound bag of baking soda to clean up a busted battery on an aircraft towing vehicle. The driver allegedly fell asleep and ran into a jet, busting the battery among other things.
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03-27-2011, 08:49 AM	#11
Thorgram Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 145	I suppose I could have taken the time to give some practical advice but my funny bone got the best of me. I've filled several large commercial batteries during deployments and while you do have to take your time and the acid is nothing to play with, it's not like mega dangerous until it's been sitting in the battery mixing with the lead. Like if you get it on you hand or something it won't burn instantly, like happens to supervillians in the movies. Gloves and saftey glasses are generally recommended cause even a little splashy drip won't feel nice on an eyeball.
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03-27-2011, 01:31 PM	#14
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	I think Spud is right. Lead acid batteries are on the way out. New technology is becoming cost competitive. Weld I believe you mean a one amp charger. My charger has a 2 amp setting and that is what I use. Outside. __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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03-27-2011, 01:35 PM	#15
MICRider Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 3,274	I might have missed it on the other thread but what are those new batteries worth? My KLR battery is the original one so I will probably be replacing it in a year or two...
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