Baja 250 PX250 - doesn't start ?

brox · 04-29-2011, 10:03 AM

Hello,

Four weeks ago I bought a Baja 250 PX250.
The bike has 250 miles on it.

Everything worked fine, till now.

I plugin my key, turn the ignition - but nothing works.
The "N" control light doesn't show up - technically speeking the bike is "dead".

I don't know if it could be just the battery - the weired thign is, when ever I started the bike, I couldn't see that the battery was getting weak.

Now I assume that it may has to do something with the ignition - or the wiring of the electric.

Is there any way, how I could try to start the bike ?

I also didn't want to start the bike by pushing it, or rolling down a hill.... because I don't know if it would cause any damage on the bike, since the ignition is not turned on.

Baja PX250 Manual and Parts:
http://www.bajamotorsports.net/categ...ja-phoenix-250

thx for all your help

FastDoc · 04-29-2011, 11:16 AM

Start with the fuse.

katoranger · 04-29-2011, 01:16 PM

Check the fuse. Then next I would put you digital multimeter to the bad to check for at least 12.5volts. (A digital multimeter is a required chinarider tool.) $4 at harbor freight.

Barnone · 04-29-2011, 08:33 PM

Yep, check the main fuse and then the battery. You could try to jump start it by cabling up a good battery, should not hurt anything.

brox · 04-30-2011, 10:54 PM

Thank you so much for all your help !

I checked the fuse and also the battery. Both was fine.
But after taking a closer look to the cables that re connected to the battery, I figured out that one end of the cable was not wired anymore.

I can not really explain why that happened, but I tried to fix it, and yeah... i am so happy now the power is back, and I couold run my bike immediately.

Thank yu so much for yur comments !

One more thing I would like to ask:
Does anybody know if there are local Service Stations who would make all kind of repairs ?

If I will run into any other issue, it would be really good to know someone around who also could make a service, or repair some major things.

I was driving to a few different dealers with a service station - but more or less, everyone kicked me out, with a very infriendly comment about my china bike.

Well, so I realized ... When ever I should have a problem with my bike, which I can not handle by myself - where to go ?

Would be so great to know what you think about this ?

Oh yeah, I am in Dallas, TX.

And one more thing:
I would love to learn more about motorcycles, so Basucally.. I want to know all what a master mechanic does know - but where can I learn all those things ?

I was looking for some online tutorials, but could not find anything.

Thank you so much for every little help !

FastDoc · 05-01-2011, 01:01 AM

Some people are rude to Chinariders. Mostly we do our own work.

In a way I understand a shop not wanting to work on CB's, but there is no need to be rude.

Here's the best (and free) on-line tutorial. Read this and you'll know quite a bit about bikes. And God. :P

www.dansmc.com

Barnone · 05-01-2011, 06:26 AM

FD,
Nice site' I'll have to spend some time there.

brox,
Glad to hear you fixed your bike. Hang around here and you will find that we do our own service/repair work and are always helping each other out.

Do you have a friend that is knowledge about bikes? If not then how about a class at your public school system? The class could be about small engine repair to get you started.

brox · 05-01-2011, 05:10 PM

Thank you very much for your posts, highly appreciated!

Cool idea with the classes - I need to check out if I can find something in my area. Do you know what's usually the name of such classes ?

I mean... is it just named with something like motorcycle mechanic classes ?

Thx a lot & till later

Barnone · 05-01-2011, 05:29 PM

http://www.technical-schools-guide.c...r-schools.html
Plug in Motorcycle & Small Engine and your zip code.

TheRealWorld · 07-23-2011, 10:52 PM

I want to piggy back on here a bit. I was told on my other thread that I could get a CDI from Mo and I talked to him and ordered one and put it in and have the same issue as the last one I bought for 25 percent of the price. The original works, but cuts out a bit when it gets hot outside, so I now have the new one in, it fits, but only fires on one cylinder just like the last on. I think they are sending me one for a 250 single cylinder and mine is just like the one in this thread. Any one got a clue what I can do.

humanbeing · 07-24-2011, 03:50 AM

There's a clue from CDi maker http://translate.google.com/translat...asp%3Fpid%3D13 check the pick up gap
2 -cylinder CDi had a larger cap (2.2 uf) which some 1-cylinder CDI may work OK

OR jam 2 "coil" wire to the SAME ING1 port
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AC: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=9516655319 Inside the box: http://motorcycle.sh.cn/t_397366.htm
DC: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=9828767747
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The picture from this http://www.scrappydogscooters.com/25...0_Twin_4T.html is HORRIBLE !!! Crappy "old" Geunie QIANJIANG (Handwritten label ) parts :? That newer sh** is about half priced to reputable brand in it's motherland. http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=5909088962
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someone 's bike f***s due to lossen bolt. Better Loctile it ASAP!!! http://motorcycle.sh.cn/viewthread.p...uthorid=143089 #13

TheRealWorld · 07-24-2011, 10:00 AM

I will do some research, thanks for the reply!

humanbeing · 07-26-2011, 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRealWorld

I will do some research, thanks for the reply!

Found some info: That Bike "stock" is using Sanxin's CDI

http://motorcycle.sh.cn/viewthread.p...d=84931&page=2 #36

TheRealWorld · 07-26-2011, 10:17 AM

Thanks, that is what the old one says on it. Any idea where I can get one?

humanbeing · 07-26-2011, 11:19 AM

Sanxin is the "de facto" choice for big player .
Those AC-CDI becames "odd" (it will F...s as the above "inside the box" URL) , nobody wants it on new bike anymore. The NEW bike from regal raptor is using DC-CDI.

Find agent for a fee / "pals" from mychinamoto.com then ships it directly to u isn't that hard. Chinese ebay seller had these unbetable rate :oops: http://shipping.ebay.cn/express/e-packet/2684.html | Used Rebel CDI also works prefect .
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Amazing mod for this bike. I don't had enough "points" to read that post, but Google cache did some rescue , just click "Annex" for image.

04-29-2011, 11:16 AM	#2
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	Start with the fuse. __________________ Happy to serve.
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04-30-2011, 10:54 PM	#5
brox Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 9	Thankyou Thank you so much for all your help ! I checked the fuse and also the battery. Both was fine. But after taking a closer look to the cables that re connected to the battery, I figured out that one end of the cable was not wired anymore. I can not really explain why that happened, but I tried to fix it, and yeah... i am so happy now the power is back, and I couold run my bike immediately. Thank yu so much for yur comments ! One more thing I would like to ask: Does anybody know if there are local Service Stations who would make all kind of repairs ? If I will run into any other issue, it would be really good to know someone around who also could make a service, or repair some major things. I was driving to a few different dealers with a service station - but more or less, everyone kicked me out, with a very infriendly comment about my china bike. Well, so I realized ... When ever I should have a problem with my bike, which I can not handle by myself - where to go ? Would be so great to know what you think about this ? Oh yeah, I am in Dallas, TX. And one more thing: I would love to learn more about motorcycles, so Basucally.. I want to know all what a master mechanic does know - but where can I learn all those things ? I was looking for some online tutorials, but could not find anything. Thank you so much for every little help !
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05-01-2011, 01:01 AM	#6
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	Some people are rude to Chinariders. Mostly we do our own work. In a way I understand a shop not wanting to work on CB's, but there is no need to be rude. Here's the best (and free) on-line tutorial. Read this and you'll know quite a bit about bikes. And God. :P www.dansmc.com __________________ Happy to serve.
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05-01-2011, 05:10 PM	#8
brox Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 9	Thank you Thank you very much for your posts, highly appreciated! Cool idea with the classes - I need to check out if I can find something in my area. Do you know what's usually the name of such classes ? I mean... is it just named with something like motorcycle mechanic classes ? Thx a lot & till later
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04-29-2011, 10:03 AM	#1
brox Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 9	Baja 250 PX250 - doesn't start ? Hello, Four weeks ago I bought a Baja 250 PX250. The bike has 250 miles on it. Everything worked fine, till now. I plugin my key, turn the ignition - but nothing works. The "N" control light doesn't show up - technically speeking the bike is "dead". I don't know if it could be just the battery - the weired thign is, when ever I started the bike, I couldn't see that the battery was getting weak. Now I assume that it may has to do something with the ignition - or the wiring of the electric. Is there any way, how I could try to start the bike ? I also didn't want to start the bike by pushing it, or rolling down a hill.... because I don't know if it would cause any damage on the bike, since the ignition is not turned on. Baja PX250 Manual and Parts: http://www.bajamotorsports.net/categ...ja-phoenix-250 thx for all your help
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04-29-2011, 01:16 PM	#3
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	Check the fuse. Then next I would put you digital multimeter to the bad to check for at least 12.5volts. (A digital multimeter is a required chinarider tool.) $4 at harbor freight. __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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04-29-2011, 08:33 PM	#4
Barnone Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,348	Yep, check the main fuse and then the battery. You could try to jump start it by cabling up a good battery, should not hurt anything.
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05-01-2011, 06:26 AM	#7
Barnone Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,348	FD, Nice site' I'll have to spend some time there. brox, Glad to hear you fixed your bike. Hang around here and you will find that we do our own service/repair work and are always helping each other out. Do you have a friend that is knowledge about bikes? If not then how about a class at your public school system? The class could be about small engine repair to get you started.
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05-01-2011, 05:29 PM	#9
Barnone Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,348	http://www.technical-schools-guide.c...r-schools.html Plug in Motorcycle & Small Engine and your zip code.
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07-23-2011, 10:52 PM	#10
TheRealWorld Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 817	I want to piggy back on here a bit. I was told on my other thread that I could get a CDI from Mo and I talked to him and ordered one and put it in and have the same issue as the last one I bought for 25 percent of the price. The original works, but cuts out a bit when it gets hot outside, so I now have the new one in, it fits, but only fires on one cylinder just like the last on. I think they are sending me one for a 250 single cylinder and mine is just like the one in this thread. Any one got a clue what I can do.
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07-24-2011, 03:50 AM	#11
humanbeing Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,436	There's a clue from CDi maker http://translate.google.com/translat...asp%3Fpid%3D13 check the pick up gap 2 -cylinder CDi had a larger cap (2.2 uf) which some 1-cylinder CDI may work OK OR jam 2 "coil" wire to the SAME ING1 port - AC: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=9516655319 Inside the box: http://motorcycle.sh.cn/t_397366.htm DC: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=9828767747 - The picture from this http://www.scrappydogscooters.com/25...0_Twin_4T.html is HORRIBLE !!! Crappy "old" Geunie QIANJIANG (Handwritten label ) parts :? That newer sh is about half priced to reputable brand in it's motherland. http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=5909088962 - someone 's bike f*s due to lossen bolt. Better Loctile it ASAP!!! http://motorcycle.sh.cn/viewthread.p...uthorid=143089 #13
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07-24-2011, 10:00 AM	#12
TheRealWorld Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 817	I will do some research, thanks for the reply!
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07-26-2011, 10:17 AM	#14
TheRealWorld Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 817	Thanks, that is what the old one says on it. Any idea where I can get one?
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07-26-2011, 11:19 AM	#15
humanbeing Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,436	Sanxin is the "de facto" choice for big player . Those AC-CDI becames "odd" (it will F...s as the above "inside the box" URL) , nobody wants it on new bike anymore. The NEW bike from regal raptor is using DC-CDI. Find agent for a fee / "pals" from mychinamoto.com then ships it directly to u isn't that hard. Chinese ebay seller had these unbetable rate :oops: http://shipping.ebay.cn/express/e-packet/2684.html \| Used Rebel CDI also works prefect . - Amazing mod for this bike. I don't had enough "points" to read that post, but Google cache did some rescue , just click "Annex" for image.
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