Newb from NC!!!

Banditz · 07-07-2011, 11:34 PM

Hey guys, I have just gotten into these china bikes and have to say, at first I was thinking they were junk. But after only a few rides I am really starting to enjoy my new to me 2007 United Motors Dtf 200!!! She has a decent amount of torque and even my buddy who has a cr250 has said WOW! With almost no gas, just off idle she has no problem pulling my fat butt right up a good sized mud hill with ease. Sits at almost a perfect height, and is simply a good bike! I traded a sea doo for it and cant say I regret it at all! Now,

what are some good mods to do to this thing! You know, same thing everyone always ask!! LOL exhaust, carb jetting..power mods more or less. I have read on here you guys say stick with the china motor..but frankly it is a little low on the power. So any help in that department would be great.

Here is a pic to make you pic guys happy!!

Weldangrind · 07-08-2011, 12:37 AM

Nice looking bike! 8) Except for the colour, it could almost pass for a CRF230.

The standard upgrades apply: low restriction air filter (like a Uni pod), 30mm carb (jetted according to elevation and plug readings), low restriction exhaust (you may already have one), decent NGK plug wire.

Beyond that, ride it and enjoy it for what it is.

SpudRider · 07-08-2011, 03:11 AM

Welcome to these forums; we are glad you joined us!

You certainly know how to start off on the right foot; you posted a photo in your first message.

I agree with Weldangrind; he knows his Honda engines.

If your exhaust is restrictive, you might consider an FMF Universal Spark Arrestor.

Spud

Banditz · 07-09-2011, 12:27 AM

Thanks guys! And thank you spud! I have read alot of your post and you seem to know what your talking about too! And I figured that you guys would like to see the bike! I am a chapter leader on my truck forum so I KNOW what people like to see...PICS!!! LOL

As for the upgrades, figures its about all you can do. I rode her a decent amount to day and was pretty damn surprised at what she could do. DID find out to stay away from rocks though...seems bikes are not teh best in rocks! LOL Anyway thank you all for the help and hope to get to know you! Not to mention become a valuable part of the forum!

SpudRider · 07-09-2011, 02:36 AM

I think the U.M. dirt bikes have a pretty good reputation. I like the full perimeter frame on your bike. Your bike also has good tires, and good ground clearance. I particularly like the luggage rack on your bike!

If you have time, take some photos the next time you go riding. We would love to see you post a thread in our Ride Reports forum.

Spud

Banditz · 07-10-2011, 01:40 AM

Will do my friend. Only thing left to ask..WHICH bikes will swap parts with mine? I see all these names for bikes and have NO idea if they are like mine..or if they are completely different..or what! LOL it's driving me nuts! What is the common name or names you guys call MY bike? that way I will know when your all talking about a bike like mine, or if i am lost completely! Thanks...

SpudRider · 07-10-2011, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Banditz

Will do my friend. Only thing left to ask..WHICH bikes will swap parts with mine? I see all these names for bikes and have NO idea if they are like mine..or if they are completely different..or what! LOL it's driving me nuts! What is the common name or names you guys call MY bike? that way I will know when your all talking about a bike like mine, or if i am lost completely! Thanks...

As with most chinese motorcycles, your bike has a clone of a Honda engine; therefore many of us call your bike a Hondoid.

My Zongshen 200GY-2 (a.k.a. Zong) has a copy of a Yamaha engine. The QLink bikes have clones of Suzuki engines. Whenever we speak of chinabikes in general, we are usually talking about the Hondoids, which constitute the large majority of Chinese motorcycles.

If the bike doesn't have a Honda engine, we will specify the bike in question by describing it as either a Zong, or a QLink.

Spud

Banditz · 07-10-2011, 02:18 AM

Ok ok...I got cha now. Yeah been doing a lot of looking on ebay, you tube, and online and finally figured that out myself too! Also figured out my new to me bike is NOT nearly complete! I need a starter gear set up, starter is there..none of teh gearing is! LOL And a frigging speedo set up. I was told by the seller that it came with NO speedo. Well, they did! You guys knew that, I DID not! LOL Also gotta figure out how to install that joker. Seems the seller used it mostly off road. I wanna be able to ride it on the road to the off road trails! hence the whole point of buying it ya know!

Also read on here that I should ask...

I have the paper work showing where the guy bought it, but thats it. No title..figuring I am just gonna have to do a few runs down to teh DMV, but is this thing gonna be a pain to tag here in NC?

SpudRider · 07-10-2011, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Banditz

Ok ok...I got cha now. Yeah been doing a lot of looking on ebay, you tube, and online and finally figured that out myself too! Also figured out my new to me bike is NOT nearly complete! I need a starter gear set up, starter is there..none of teh gearing is! LOL And a frigging speedo set up. I was told by the seller that it came with NO speedo. Well, they did! You guys knew that, I DID not! LOL Also gotta figure out how to install that joker. Seems the seller used it mostly off road. I wanna be able to ride it on the road to the off road trails! hence the whole point of buying it ya know!...

Are you sure the UM DTF200 is a dual sport motorcycle, and not a dirt bike? Do you have turn signals on your bike? I know UM marketed both a dirt bike, and a dual sport bike.

However, since United Motors is now out of business, I can't find the information to distinguish between the two models. :(

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Originally Posted by Banditz

...Also read on here that I should ask...

I have the paper work showing where the guy bought it, but thats it. No title..figuring I am just gonna have to do a few runs down to teh DMV, but is this thing gonna be a pain to tag here in NC?

If the bike doesn't have a title, it might be a dirt bike only, and not street legal.

If that's the case, you need to check into North Carolina laws regarding the possibility of getting a license plate for a dirt bike.

Spud

Weldangrind · 07-10-2011, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SpudRider

My Zongshen 200GY-2 (a.k.a. Zong) has a copy of a Yamaha engine.

Banditz, to further complicate the matter, Zongshen also copied Honda engines; I have one.

Banditz · 07-10-2011, 09:55 AM

Geez, this is just crazy! LOL Honda, suzuki, yamaha clones..man oh man why could they not just build there own?? LOL

Yeah spud..it is a duel sport. Has the spots for mirrior's...I just don't have any with it! LOL

As for teh turns, here in NC you either have them ALL in working condition or NONE at all. As long as you know the signs for turning thats all you HAVE to have...I just like I said may as well run down to the dmv and figure out what all I will need. Then post up what I find out to help you guys in teh future..Always the bes thing to do to get good info in the thread history ya know

SuperTimmy · 07-10-2011, 12:55 PM

Hey Banditz,

Nice bike! Where are you in NC? I live in Wilmington.

SpudRider · 07-11-2011, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Banditz

Geez, this is just crazy! LOL Honda, suzuki, yamaha clones..man oh man why could they not just build there own?? LOL

Yeah spud..it is a duel sport. Has the spots for mirrior's...I just don't have any with it! LOL

As for teh turns, here in NC you either have them ALL in working condition or NONE at all. As long as you know the signs for turning thats all you HAVE to have...I just like I said may as well run down to the dmv and figure out what all I will need. Then post up what I find out to help you guys in teh future..Always the bes thing to do to get good info in the thread history ya know

I test rode the UM dirt bike before I bought my Zong. If I remember correctly, this bike had mirror mounts, but no mirrors. The bike also had a wiring harness, and a turn signal switch, but no turn signals were installed. I also believe the dirt bike lacked a speedometer.

However, it sounds as if the requirements for getting a license plate for a dirt bike in North Carolina are very similar to the requirements in Idaho.

If, indeed, this is the case, you shouldn't have any problems getting a plate for your UM motorcycle.

Spud

Banditz · 07-13-2011, 05:45 PM

Hey Timmy! I live in CONCORD NC... Let me know and hopefully we can get up sometime!

Spud, yeah man..I have YET to have time to stop in and see what all's gonna be needed. But HOPEFULLY I can get the title! I saw a enduro on the way back from the lake today riding down the rode...looks so damn fun!

As far as for the mirrors and stuff you are correct! No mirrors, BUT mirror mounts!, No speedo, but a harness! No turns, but a turn signal switch!

One thing I am wondering...I have jumped this bad boy a few times and the suspension is SOFT! I bottom out on nearly every jump..even the small 3-5 footers. I did 1 that was MAYBE about 17 foot or so and about 7-9 foot high and I thought for sure I was gonna dump it...I bootomed out the ENTIRE bike...the frame even hit on the bottom!! HOW can I make this baby more weight friendly? I weigh in at 245lbs on a good day and about 250 on a bad one..so i know i'm not light..But geez...as is I can barely go off a curb without it ramping my butt off the seat!

SpudRider · 07-13-2011, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Banditz

...Spud, yeah man..I have YET to have time to stop in and see what all's gonna be needed. But HOPEFULLY I can get the title! I saw a enduro on the way back from the lake today riding down the rode...looks so damn fun!

As far as for the mirrors and stuff you are correct! No mirrors, BUT mirror mounts!, No speedo, but a harness! No turns, but a turn signal switch!...

It sounds as if you got the dirt bike version.

However, UM provided you with a wiring harness, turn signal switch, mirror mounts, et cetera, so you are in pretty good shape!

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Originally Posted by Banditz

...One thing I am wondering...I have jumped this bad boy a few times and the suspension is SOFT! I bottom out on nearly every jump..even the small 3-5 footers. I did 1 that was MAYBE about 17 foot or so and about 7-9 foot high and I thought for sure I was gonna dump it...I bootomed out the ENTIRE bike...the frame even hit on the bottom!! HOW can I make this baby more weight friendly? I weigh in at 245lbs on a good day and about 250 on a bad one..so i know i'm not light..But geez...as is I can barely go off a curb without it ramping my butt off the seat!

I hate to tell you this, but for a Chinese motorcycle, it sounds as if you got a pretty good suspension.

The aftermarket support for Chinese motorcycles is nonexistent. Therefore, you are left to your own devices to stiffen up the suspension.

Most of our members stiffen the forks by installing PVC spacers on top of the fork springs. If you take measurements, perhaps you can get someone to sell you a stiffer spring for your shock absorber.

I hope others will chime in with their suggestions.

Spud

07-07-2011, 11:34 PM	#1
Banditz Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 11	Newb from NC!!! Hey guys, I have just gotten into these china bikes and have to say, at first I was thinking they were junk. But after only a few rides I am really starting to enjoy my new to me 2007 United Motors Dtf 200!!! She has a decent amount of torque and even my buddy who has a cr250 has said WOW! With almost no gas, just off idle she has no problem pulling my fat butt right up a good sized mud hill with ease. Sits at almost a perfect height, and is simply a good bike! I traded a sea doo for it and cant say I regret it at all! Now, what are some good mods to do to this thing! You know, same thing everyone always ask!! LOL exhaust, carb jetting..power mods more or less. I have read on here you guys say stick with the china motor..but frankly it is a little low on the power. So any help in that department would be great. Here is a pic to make you pic guys happy!!
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07-08-2011, 12:37 AM	#2
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Nice looking bike! 8) Except for the colour, it could almost pass for a CRF230. The standard upgrades apply: low restriction air filter (like a Uni pod), 30mm carb (jetted according to elevation and plug readings), low restriction exhaust (you may already have one), decent NGK plug wire. Beyond that, ride it and enjoy it for what it is. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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07-08-2011, 03:11 AM	#3
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	Welcome to these forums; we are glad you joined us! You certainly know how to start off on the right foot; you posted a photo in your first message. I agree with Weldangrind; he knows his Honda engines. If your exhaust is restrictive, you might consider an FMF Universal Spark Arrestor. Spud __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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07-09-2011, 02:36 AM	#5
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	I think the U.M. dirt bikes have a pretty good reputation. I like the full perimeter frame on your bike. Your bike also has good tires, and good ground clearance. I particularly like the luggage rack on your bike! If you have time, take some photos the next time you go riding. We would love to see you post a thread in our Ride Reports forum. Spud __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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07-09-2011, 12:27 AM	#4
Banditz Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 11	Thanks guys! And thank you spud! I have read alot of your post and you seem to know what your talking about too! And I figured that you guys would like to see the bike! I am a chapter leader on my truck forum so I KNOW what people like to see...PICS!!! LOL As for the upgrades, figures its about all you can do. I rode her a decent amount to day and was pretty damn surprised at what she could do. DID find out to stay away from rocks though...seems bikes are not teh best in rocks! LOL Anyway thank you all for the help and hope to get to know you! Not to mention become a valuable part of the forum!
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07-10-2011, 01:40 AM	#6
Banditz Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 11	Will do my friend. Only thing left to ask..WHICH bikes will swap parts with mine? I see all these names for bikes and have NO idea if they are like mine..or if they are completely different..or what! LOL it's driving me nuts! What is the common name or names you guys call MY bike? that way I will know when your all talking about a bike like mine, or if i am lost completely! Thanks...
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07-10-2011, 02:18 AM	#8
Banditz Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 11	Ok ok...I got cha now. Yeah been doing a lot of looking on ebay, you tube, and online and finally figured that out myself too! Also figured out my new to me bike is NOT nearly complete! I need a starter gear set up, starter is there..none of teh gearing is! LOL And a frigging speedo set up. I was told by the seller that it came with NO speedo. Well, they did! You guys knew that, I DID not! LOL Also gotta figure out how to install that joker. Seems the seller used it mostly off road. I wanna be able to ride it on the road to the off road trails! hence the whole point of buying it ya know! Also read on here that I should ask... I have the paper work showing where the guy bought it, but thats it. No title..figuring I am just gonna have to do a few runs down to teh DMV, but is this thing gonna be a pain to tag here in NC?
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07-10-2011, 09:55 AM	#11
Banditz Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 11	Geez, this is just crazy! LOL Honda, suzuki, yamaha clones..man oh man why could they not just build there own?? LOL Yeah spud..it is a duel sport. Has the spots for mirrior's...I just don't have any with it! LOL As for teh turns, here in NC you either have them ALL in working condition or NONE at all. As long as you know the signs for turning thats all you HAVE to have...I just like I said may as well run down to the dmv and figure out what all I will need. Then post up what I find out to help you guys in teh future..Always the bes thing to do to get good info in the thread history ya know
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07-10-2011, 12:55 PM	#12
SuperTimmy Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NC Posts: 88	Hey Banditz, Nice bike! Where are you in NC? I live in Wilmington.
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07-13-2011, 05:45 PM	#14
Banditz Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 11	Hey Timmy! I live in CONCORD NC... Let me know and hopefully we can get up sometime! Spud, yeah man..I have YET to have time to stop in and see what all's gonna be needed. But HOPEFULLY I can get the title! I saw a enduro on the way back from the lake today riding down the rode...looks so damn fun! As far as for the mirrors and stuff you are correct! No mirrors, BUT mirror mounts!, No speedo, but a harness! No turns, but a turn signal switch! One thing I am wondering...I have jumped this bad boy a few times and the suspension is SOFT! I bottom out on nearly every jump..even the small 3-5 footers. I did 1 that was MAYBE about 17 foot or so and about 7-9 foot high and I thought for sure I was gonna dump it...I bootomed out the ENTIRE bike...the frame even hit on the bottom!! HOW can I make this baby more weight friendly? I weigh in at 245lbs on a good day and about 250 on a bad one..so i know i'm not light..But geez...as is I can barely go off a curb without it ramping my butt off the seat!
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