Help with running issues on Shineray XY200GY - Page 2

kevshek · 11-21-2011, 12:38 AM

will do

kevshek · 11-21-2011, 01:37 PM

Ive checked the carb, both in front and behind, check the inlet manifold which is bolted on tight, i can not see any air leaks or gaps or splits, so im out of ideas.

I managed to get the bike wared up and adjust the idle and slow jet a bit, but when riding, its still running on.

Could this be an electrical issues?

Is this the CDi?

and whats this? rectifier?

FastDoc · 11-21-2011, 01:55 PM

Yes and yes. :wink:

kevshek · 11-21-2011, 02:07 PM

Could either one of these give me this running issue?

FastDoc · 11-21-2011, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kevshek

Could either one of these give me this running issue?

I don't think so.

I've not read this thread but that sounds like an induction tract air leak to me. Maybe a sticky throttle cablee.

Have you done the starter fluid/ carb cleaner/ propane test?

kevshek · 11-21-2011, 02:21 PM

Nope, what test is that?

FastDoc · 11-21-2011, 02:55 PM

Start the bike and warm it up. Get it to idle as stable as it will. Spray the intake boot with starting fluid (my favorite) or carb cleaner or a blast of propane from an unlit hand held torch. If the idle changes, usually faster, you have an air leak. This is very common.

kevshek · 11-21-2011, 03:01 PM

ok, will try that thanks.
so am i just checking from the carb to engine? or do i need to go further towards the airbox?
surely if there was a leak before the carb, it would not effect the carb as that in itself adjusts how much fuel/air goes into the engine.

FastDoc · 11-21-2011, 03:04 PM

Correct. Between the carb and the engine. I think this will be your problem.

Weldangrind · 11-21-2011, 03:10 PM

I agree with Doc.

You can't determine if there is an o-ring problem where the intake tube meets the head, unless you remove the intake tube. That was the very concern with TurboT's atv.

kevshek · 11-21-2011, 03:16 PM

i cant recall if there is a gasket or rubber O ring between the intake manifold and engine, but i know the carb has an O ring to the manifold. Will a paper gasket suffice? thats all ive got to hand to help seal it.

Weldangrind · 11-21-2011, 10:32 PM

A second o-ring is a better choice, but that's IF the groove is too deep.

Scroll down page four for pics: Fun with TurboT's Gio Beast

kevshek · 11-22-2011, 12:51 AM

ive an idea, i will fill in the groove with some setting gasket sealer or paper gasket, then put the O ring back on top. I dont know what the size of the ring is and dont know where to get one locally.

driller · 11-22-2011, 05:09 AM

even a hardware store should have o-rings take the old one with you for the correct size diameter and thickness

Weldangrind · 11-22-2011, 10:54 AM

Are you in the US, kevshek? If so, you can get a decent o-ring kit from Harbor Freight tools for cheap.

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FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	Yes and yes. :wink: __________________ Happy to serve.
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11-21-2011, 02:55 PM	#22
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	Start the bike and warm it up. Get it to idle as stable as it will. Spray the intake boot with starting fluid (my favorite) or carb cleaner or a blast of propane from an unlit hand held torch. If the idle changes, usually faster, you have an air leak. This is very common. __________________ Happy to serve.
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11-21-2011, 03:04 PM	#24
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	Correct. Between the carb and the engine. I think this will be your problem. __________________ Happy to serve.
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11-21-2011, 03:10 PM	#25
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	I agree with Doc. You can't determine if there is an o-ring problem where the intake tube meets the head, unless you remove the intake tube. That was the very concern with TurboT's atv. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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11-21-2011, 10:32 PM	#27
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	A second o-ring is a better choice, but that's IF the groove is too deep. Scroll down page four for pics: Fun with TurboT's Gio Beast __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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11-21-2011, 12:38 AM	#16
kevshek Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 49	will do
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11-21-2011, 01:37 PM	#17
kevshek Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 49	Ive checked the carb, both in front and behind, check the inlet manifold which is bolted on tight, i can not see any air leaks or gaps or splits, so im out of ideas. I managed to get the bike wared up and adjust the idle and slow jet a bit, but when riding, its still running on. Could this be an electrical issues? Is this the CDi? and whats this? rectifier?
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11-21-2011, 02:07 PM	#19
kevshek Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 49	Could either one of these give me this running issue?
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11-21-2011, 02:21 PM	#21
kevshek Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 49	Nope, what test is that?
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11-21-2011, 03:01 PM	#23
kevshek Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 49	ok, will try that thanks. so am i just checking from the carb to engine? or do i need to go further towards the airbox? surely if there was a leak before the carb, it would not effect the carb as that in itself adjusts how much fuel/air goes into the engine.
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11-21-2011, 03:16 PM	#26
kevshek Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 49	i cant recall if there is a gasket or rubber O ring between the intake manifold and engine, but i know the carb has an O ring to the manifold. Will a paper gasket suffice? thats all ive got to hand to help seal it.
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11-22-2011, 12:51 AM	#28
kevshek Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 49	ive an idea, i will fill in the groove with some setting gasket sealer or paper gasket, then put the O ring back on top. I dont know what the size of the ring is and dont know where to get one locally.
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11-22-2011, 05:09 AM	#29
driller Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Lawrence, Ks. Posts: 195	even a hardware store should have o-rings take the old one with you for the correct size diameter and thickness
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11-22-2011, 10:54 AM	#30
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Are you in the US, kevshek? If so, you can get a decent o-ring kit from Harbor Freight tools for cheap. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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