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Old 06-18-2012, 07:01 AM   #16
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Here's another photograph demonstrating the proper way to use the turkey baster to establish the proper height for the fork oil.



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Old 06-18-2012, 08:09 AM   #17
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Well.

thanks for all of that good info!



Now I have to ask a stupid question:

loosen upper pinch bolt, loosened cap, BUT- could not get cap off?

What am i missing? felt as though it was still attached beneath cap?


 
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Old 06-18-2012, 02:35 PM   #18
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The fork cap is bolted to the fork cartridge inside the fork. You can learn how to loosen this bolt by reading the following threads.

http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/sh...ink-QingQi-200
http://chinariders.net/modules.php?n...wtopic&t=13268

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Old 06-19-2012, 03:11 AM   #19
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I'm sorry, what?! Still processing the turkey baster...

Actually 150mm is still quite low for me. As a rule of thumb I always go with no more than 100-110mm, but always above spring. This is how I do my off-road bikes, which generally have stiff fronts I must admit. I guess I'm used to them, though.


 
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Old 06-19-2012, 09:40 AM   #20
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The fork cap is bolted to the fork cartridge inside the fork. You can learn how to loosen this bolt by reading the following threads.

http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/sh...ink-QingQi-200
http://chinariders.net/modules.php?n...wtopic&t=13268

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...so if both upper pinch bolts/caps were removed, should not the forks 'collapse' enabling me to add oil?


 
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Old 06-19-2012, 12:45 PM   #21
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The fork cap is bolted to the fork cartridge inside the fork. You can learn how to loosen this bolt by reading the following threads.

http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/sh...ink-QingQi-200
http://chinariders.net/modules.php?n...wtopic&t=13268

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...so if both upper pinch bolts/caps were removed, should not the forks 'collapse' enabling me to add oil?
If you follow the procedures in either of the threads to which I referred, you can remove the fork caps.

Personally, I think the job is much easier, and safer, if you completely remove the forks from the motorcycle, as I did in the following thread.

http://chinariders.net/modules.php?n...wtopic&t=13268

Also, once the forks are removed, I think it's also best to completely change the fork oil. However, if you follow the procedures in the following thread, you can leave the forks attached to the motorcycle, and merely add extra fork oil.

http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/sh...ink-QingQi-200

You will need to remove the spring preload spacers if you wish to see/measure how much fork oil you have added. Removing the preload spacers will also allow you to remove excess fork oil with either a turkey baster, or a syringe with extra tubing added to the end.

Nevertheless, I still think it's easier to remove the forks completely, and inspect them properly, as I detailed in the first thread.

http://chinariders.net/modules.php?n...wtopic&t=13268



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Old 06-19-2012, 02:23 PM   #22
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thanks again, Spuds!

BUT- I am just trying to clarify, as I'm lazy and just want to add a bit of oil at the moment, and really do not want to disassemble...

So I read this:



"Take off the front fork protectors. These are held on with two screws each and slide up and off.
Take off the brake line routing bracket. Two bolts hold it on
Jack up the front so that the wheel is about 8" off of the ground. This makes room for boards placed under the wheel later.
Loosen the top bolts on the tree. This will allow the top caps to be loosened.
Lossen the top caps. You will notice that they "catch" after turning a bit. This means that they are loose.
Place boards under the front wheel. Make sure the wheel is straight and that the boards are wide enough to hold a container on each side to catch the oil. A small sheet of plywood on top of a couple of board works well.
Lower the bike all the way to the bottom of the stoke. The caps will pop up with the cartrage. "




...hence my earlier question about if I had loosened the upper pinch bolts and caps, could I not just collapse to enable adding oil?

I must be missing something?


 
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Old 06-19-2012, 06:56 PM   #23
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Nope, your're not missing anything, ecoast, I wrote the MCM post as a way to change the oil. To add oil, stop after post #2. There will enough room to use Spud's turkey baster idea to add the oil. To be safe, make sure that the bike is supported before you loosen the caps otherwise the front will drop quickly. You'll want to have a jack under the frame to allow the front to go down as the cartrage assembly will stay stationary.


 
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Old 06-19-2012, 08:23 PM   #24
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Quote:
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thanks again, Spuds!...
You're welcome.
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...hence my earlier question about if I had loosened the upper pinch bolts and caps, could I not just collapse to enable adding oil?

I must be missing something?
As I said, you can follow David's instructions, as he just reiterated.

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