typical stator output?

bogieboy · 12-08-2015, 10:46 AM

whats the typical stator wattage on a china bike? wondering how badly i will be taxing the stator/battery with my HID swap....

humanbeing · 12-08-2015, 03:38 PM

Typical push rod fitted w/ "8" (88.6 mm) http://mall.mxjidian.com/?de=goodsdetail,gid--100030
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U can upgrade it (NEEDS dc-cdi since no source coil & a NEW reg/rec that can handle that output) w/ (88.6 mm) http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=35665374527 Some newer bike are fitted w/ 93mm stator, that's another animal

bogieboy · 12-09-2015, 12:53 PM

thanks HB! thats what i was hoping....LOL i can in fact run 2 35w ballasts for HID and have enough left to charge a bit.... all other lights are LED

humanbeing · 12-10-2015, 12:47 AM

To the extreme http://ray-chi.tw/bbs/forum.php?mod=...tid=469&page=1 Re-wound it by yourself guide
Key points:
Higher temp enameled wire http://www.pewsc.com/news/p3p4.pdf . 0.65mm wire * 75-80 turns at each pole (300-320 turns each phase). Oh no... it's 3-phase (900+)!!!

humanbeing · 12-10-2015, 05:58 AM

How to rewind a "8":

bogieboy · 07-17-2016, 10:09 PM

gonna revive this thread seeing some other stator questions floating about on the forum.... i am wondering, since the 12 coil ones would require a dc rec and cdi, what about an 11 pole? what sort of output would those have?

like this- http://www.ebay.com/itm/Atv-Quad-Go-...2afveg&vxp=mtr

also, just gonna throw this out there since HB mentioned it, would this be a drop in as well? would it fit the case ok? and would it need dc cdi? also with switching to dc cdi, would it need rewired in the harness?

93 mm stator https://world.taobao.com/item/36070825221

pistolclass · 07-17-2016, 10:15 PM

1.21 gigawatts, but you'll have to be doing 88 miles per hour.

bogieboy · 07-17-2016, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by pistolclass

1.21 gigawatts, but you'll have to be doing 88 miles per hour.

LOL!!!!!! i could use that... when i flip on both my projectors my voltage at the battery drops to 12.1-11.9v... LOL let alone when i flip the high beams on and the two cutoff solenoids kick on.. then it drops to 11.1ish....LOL

humanbeing · 07-17-2016, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bogieboy

...http://www.ebay.com/itm/Atv-Quad-Go-...-/180454697332 ...

This thingy is 93mm. Nobody sure will fit the stock flywheel w/o measure b4 ordering ...
The output wattage is similar to those 250 Rebel...

bogieboy · 07-18-2016, 06:04 AM

on the 93mm stuff, you think If the flywheel was swapped out for a 93mm flywheel as well as the stator it would work HB? I'm needing a good bit more charging capability...LOL

humanbeing · 07-18-2016, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by bogieboy

on the 93mm stuff, you think If the flywheel was swapped out for a 93mm flywheel ...

Yup...Flywheel outer Ø is SAME btw 8? & 9? series
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88.?mm stator = Ø 90.?mm flywheel <same principle> 93 stator = Ø 95 flywheel

bogieboy · 07-18-2016, 12:17 PM

then the only question is if the system would be ac or dc for the cdi, and if the bikes wiring will need changed to make it work?

humanbeing · 07-18-2016, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bogieboy

then the only question is if the system would be ac or dc for the cdi, and if the bikes wiring will need changed to make it work?

DC-CDI
4 pin in CDI is the SAME | Ign OFF = Cut + How the <2 pin> works u may already know at this point...
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DC

AC

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There's some 12 to 200 thingy http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=39846621715 #2 if don't like DC-CDI

bogieboy · 07-18-2016, 08:35 PM

I'm not up onow my schematics reading...LOL if I am reading the schematic right, DC grounds the coil to kill ignition and ac opens the power circuit to kill?

12-08-2015, 10:46 AM	#1
bogieboy Join Date: May 2013 Location: finger lakes NY Posts: 2,047	typical stator output? whats the typical stator wattage on a china bike? wondering how badly i will be taxing the stator/battery with my HID swap....
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12-10-2015, 12:47 AM	#4
humanbeing Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,436	To the extreme http://ray-chi.tw/bbs/forum.php?mod=...tid=469&page=1 Re-wound it by yourself guide Key points: Higher temp enameled wire http://www.pewsc.com/news/p3p4.pdf . 0.65mm wire * 75-80 turns at each pole (300-320 turns each phase). Oh no... it's 3-phase (900+)!!! __________________ Last edited by humanbeing; 12-10-2015 at 04:53 AM.
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12-10-2015, 05:58 AM	#5
humanbeing Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,436	How to rewind a "8": __________________
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12-08-2015, 03:38 PM	#2
humanbeing Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,436	Typical push rod fitted w/ "8" (88.6 mm) http://mall.mxjidian.com/?de=goodsdetail,gid--100030 --- U can upgrade it (NEEDS dc-cdi since no source coil & a NEW reg/rec that can handle that output) w/ (88.6 mm) http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=35665374527 Some newer bike are fitted w/ 93mm stator, that's another animal __________________
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12-09-2015, 12:53 PM	#3
bogieboy Join Date: May 2013 Location: finger lakes NY Posts: 2,047	thanks HB! thats what i was hoping....LOL i can in fact run 2 35w ballasts for HID and have enough left to charge a bit.... all other lights are LED
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07-17-2016, 10:09 PM	#6
bogieboy Join Date: May 2013 Location: finger lakes NY Posts: 2,047	gonna revive this thread seeing some other stator questions floating about on the forum.... i am wondering, since the 12 coil ones would require a dc rec and cdi, what about an 11 pole? what sort of output would those have? like this- http://www.ebay.com/itm/Atv-Quad-Go-...2afveg&vxp=mtr also, just gonna throw this out there since HB mentioned it, would this be a drop in as well? would it fit the case ok? and would it need dc cdi? also with switching to dc cdi, would it need rewired in the harness? 93 mm stator https://world.taobao.com/item/36070825221
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07-17-2016, 10:15 PM	#7
pistolclass Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: connecticut Posts: 978	1.21 gigawatts, but you'll have to be doing 88 miles per hour.
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07-18-2016, 06:04 AM	#10
bogieboy Join Date: May 2013 Location: finger lakes NY Posts: 2,047	on the 93mm stuff, you think If the flywheel was swapped out for a 93mm flywheel as well as the stator it would work HB? I'm needing a good bit more charging capability...LOL
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07-18-2016, 12:17 PM	#12
bogieboy Join Date: May 2013 Location: finger lakes NY Posts: 2,047	then the only question is if the system would be ac or dc for the cdi, and if the bikes wiring will need changed to make it work?
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07-18-2016, 08:35 PM	#14
bogieboy Join Date: May 2013 Location: finger lakes NY Posts: 2,047	I'm not up onow my schematics reading...LOL if I am reading the schematic right, DC grounds the coil to kill ignition and ac opens the power circuit to kill?
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