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Old 10-04-2016, 04:14 PM   #1
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Inverted forks, counterbalance engine. DOT EPA approved. Easy to reg in 49 states. Having a shorter seat height might be a plus for some.
Oh, I see. For the average rider, the best difference is easy 49 state registration. For some the lower seat height is an advantage. The counter-balance engine may have an advantage in more flywheel weight. And maybe that advantage overcomes the dis-advantage of having a chain drive oil pump. The upside down forks are more of an advantage in higher speed off road work. But there is no denying the advantage of easier registration.


 
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Old 10-04-2016, 04:42 PM   #2
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Oh, I see. For the average rider, the best difference is easy 49 state registration. For some the lower seat height is an advantage. The counter-balance engine may have an advantage in more flywheel weight. And maybe that advantage overcomes the dis-advantage of having a chain drive oil pump. The upside down forks are more of an advantage in higher speed off road work. But there is no denying the advantage of easier registration.
For me the lower seat height of the Storm would be a dis-advantage. My bike is full sized as I like it. I dont do high speed off road work so up side down forks would not really be needed. I hope the counterbalance engine lets me ride at highway speeds with out rattling the bike or my old bones too much. The Brozz would be the bike I would want if I had it to do over again. I might try and sale this bike and start over with a Brozz?


 
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Old 10-04-2016, 05:39 PM   #3
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For me the lower seat height of the Storm would be a dis-advantage. My bike is full sized as I like it. I dont do high speed off road work so up side down forks would not really be needed. I hope the counterbalance engine lets me ride at highway speeds with out rattling the bike or my old bones too much. The Brozz would be the bike I would want if I had it to do over again. I might try and sale this bike and start over with a Brozz?
I gotta confess I never really noticed engine vibration on my 250's. But all of them were English made, and the English really worked to get the engines mounted right to quell vibration. Excessive engine vibration is usually caused by poor engine mounting. I suspect that the Chinese don't bother with this. Easy to understand, considering 90% of their buyers worldwide have never owned anything with an internal combustion engine in it before. I would hope that the Brozz has got to be a lot better than what you have. Personally, I would go with a Hawk. There have been lots of them sold, and not very many complaints. And the problems that have shown up seem to have been treated satisfactorily on this site.


 
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Old 10-04-2016, 05:53 PM   #4
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I gotta confess I never really noticed engine vibration on my 250's. But all of them were English made, and the English really worked to get the engines mounted right to quell vibration. Excessive engine vibration is usually caused by poor engine mounting. I suspect that the Chinese don't bother with this. Easy to understand, considering 90% of their buyers worldwide have never owned anything with an internal combustion engine in it before. I would hope that the Brozz has got to be a lot better than what you have. Personally, I would go with a Hawk. There have been lots of them sold, and not very many complaints. And the problems that have shown up seem to have been treated satisfactorily on this site.
Ya lots of support for the Hawk here. No DOT approval. Wont work in Colorado.


 
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Old 10-04-2016, 06:12 PM   #5
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Ya lots of support for the Hawk here. No DOT approval. Wont work in Colorado.
Oh. I didn't know that no one had successfully registered one in Colorado. I think you can go on the internet and register it in South Dakota. Using your Colorado address. Then, once you have a South Dakota title, you can re-register it in Colorado, when you get around to it.


 
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Old 10-04-2016, 06:17 PM   #6
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Oh. I didn't know that no one had successfully registered one in Colorado. I think you can go on the internet and register it in South Dakota. Using your Colorado address. Then, once you have a South Dakota title, you can re-register it in Colorado, when you get around to it.
Ya Ive read that works. Ill opt for a DOT approved for now.


 
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Old 10-04-2016, 06:27 PM   #7
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Thanks for the info guys. I was going to buy a Hawk, now I'm going to get a storm. No hassles at the DMV, worth every penny. The USD forks certainly don't bother me either.


 
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Old 10-04-2016, 08:42 PM   #8
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I'm under the impression that the Storm and the Brozz are the same thing. They both have the label BS250GY-18 on the swing arm. The Brozz has the letter "C" after the 18. They sure look the same to me just different graphics. Hard to tell from the pics.


 
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Old 10-04-2016, 09:11 PM   #9
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I'm under the impression that the Storm and the Brozz are the same thing. They both have the label BS250GY-18 on the swing arm. The Brozz has the letter "C" after the 18. They sure look the same to me just different graphics. Hard to tell from the pics.
The Brozz has a rear drum brake.


 
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Old 10-05-2016, 12:09 AM   #10
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You are correct about the rear brake i forgot about that. I don't understand why you would prefer the Brozz over the Storm? At this time the Brozz sellers want about $200 more. I'm just pointing out that this is the best deal I've seen for a non Hawk bike. Merlin,are you making any progress with "Superior Power Sports"? Best of luck to you.


 
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Old 10-05-2016, 12:19 AM   #11
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You are correct about the rear brake i forgot about that. I don't understand why you would prefer the Brozz over the Storm?
I just like it better, for no good reason, and after having mixed luck with Chinese enduros rear discs, I think having a drum brake would be a breath of fresh air, ironically.
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Old 10-05-2016, 12:57 AM   #12
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You are correct about the rear brake i forgot about that. I don't understand why you would prefer the Brozz over the Storm? At this time the Brozz sellers want about $200 more. I'm just pointing out that this is the best deal I've seen for a non Hawk bike. Merlin,are you making any progress with "Superior Power Sports"? Best of luck to you.
0 luck with them or the bike.


 
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Old 10-05-2016, 08:38 AM   #13
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NM Retired, did you order a storm yet?


 
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